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Sounds good, like the approach we are taking, as long as the manager is willing to give him games when he is with us. As long as he is nothing like the Lucas at Liverpool, I'm happy.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 02:43 AM
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icecoolguy22, on 17 March 2011 - 01:31 AM, said:
Sounds good, like the approach we are taking, as long as the manager is willing to give him games when he is with us. As long as he is nothing like the Lucas at Liverpool, I'm happy.
Lucas from Liverpool plays farther back. Almost in the holding role, creating from there. This Lucas, even though nicknamed the next kaka, plays up front. He prefers to play behind a striker rather than be a true number 10. He actually plays in a position like Pato, but has the creating skills of a kaka.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 06:53 AM
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G-Wrath, on 17 March 2011 - 01:07 AM, said:
Hever heard of him or seen him play, but I'm glad we are getting them when they are young and cheap(ish).
I hope he doesn't just look like Kaka , but plays like Kaka as well.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:48 AM
rahul, on 16 March 2011 - 07:46 PM, said:
Dont get me wrong. I am excited as I always am when we sign the next etc etc and so on. But the fingers have been burnt so many times with the new Crespos and the new Inzaghis that I am saving my excitement for the time when he makes his first first team appearance.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 01:58 PM
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big blue, on 16 March 2011 - 06:58 PM, said:
BrewCrew, on 16 March 2011 - 06:19 PM, said:
Would count as "home grown" right?
he certainly would which is a big bonus if he reaches his potential.
If he's coming here after reaching 18, how will he count as 'home grown'?
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 02:25 PM
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footballoholic, on 17 March 2011 - 01:58 PM, said:
If he's coming here after reaching 18, how will he count as 'home grown'?
A home grown player is defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Welsh Football Association for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).
By the end of the 2015 season he will have been here continually for over 36 months.
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 11:05 PM
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Sour grapes with a dash of Daily Fail stirring LINK
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Juventus blast unethical Chelsea over Brazilian wonderkid Lucas Piazon
By SAMI MOKBEL
Last updated at 10:41 PM on 17th March 2011
Juventus sporting director Giuseppe Marotta has accused Chelsea of ‘unethical’ behaviour in their pursuit of Brazilian wonderkid Lucas Piazon.
And the Italian chief has made the stunning claim that the Blues have agreed to pay the teenager an astonishing £870,000-per-year to move to west London.
Piazon - who has been dubbed the ‘new Kaka’ - is set to join the Barclays Premier League champions from Sao Paulo once he turns 18 in January 2012, in a deal that could rise to £8million.
But at one stage, Piazon looked set for a move to Turin with some reports even suggesting a deal was already in place for the Brazil Under-17 star to become a Juventus player.
Chelsea feel they have acquired one of the hottest properties in world football - but Juve chief Marotta has attacked the Stamford Bridge club for using huge amounts of money to lure the talented attacking midfielder.
Marotta said: ‘We’re actually proud that we haven’t signed Piazon under these conditions. It would have been unethical to pay a minor a salary in the region of €1million (Euros).
‘What would his future team-mates be thinking? Players who have yet to sign a professional contract.
‘It’s hypocritical to argue that players earn too much money nowadays and then criticise our decision not to meet Piazon’s demands.’ Marotta’s criticism is the latest in a growing line of attacks on Chelsea’s quest to lure the globe’s brightest talent to the club.
As reported in Sportsmail last December, Feyenoord sporting director Leo Beenhakker pointed an accusing finger at Chelsea for their pursuit of 15-year-old defender Nathan Ake.
He said: ‘It’s driving me crazy that hot prospects are walking away from us like this. The Premier League clubs spoil the market with their behaviour. Other clubs in Europe don’t behave like this but the English sides just don’t care.’
Despite the pending arrival of Piazon and the recent big money signings of Fernando Torres and David Luiz, Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay last night insisted that promoting players through the club’s academy remains a top priority.
Making a point: Carlo Ancelotti remains under pressure to bring youngsters through the academy at Chelsea
He said: ‘The strategy of the club hasn’t changed, it was always the intention to get the young guys through and develop the academy.
‘Unfortunately we hit a period where we lost our form and Carlo decided he wanted to play with experience. We needed to get the young guys out on loan.
‘I said at the start of the season that if we needed to buy to compete, we’re not going to go in any bidding wars but if the right players become available then of course we’re in a position to go into the market.
‘We proved that with Fernando and Luiz and they’ve both been fantastic signings.’
Chelsea last night declined to comment directly on Marotta’s comments.
By SAMI MOKBEL
Last updated at 10:41 PM on 17th March 2011
Juventus sporting director Giuseppe Marotta has accused Chelsea of ‘unethical’ behaviour in their pursuit of Brazilian wonderkid Lucas Piazon.
And the Italian chief has made the stunning claim that the Blues have agreed to pay the teenager an astonishing £870,000-per-year to move to west London.
Piazon - who has been dubbed the ‘new Kaka’ - is set to join the Barclays Premier League champions from Sao Paulo once he turns 18 in January 2012, in a deal that could rise to £8million.
But at one stage, Piazon looked set for a move to Turin with some reports even suggesting a deal was already in place for the Brazil Under-17 star to become a Juventus player.
Chelsea feel they have acquired one of the hottest properties in world football - but Juve chief Marotta has attacked the Stamford Bridge club for using huge amounts of money to lure the talented attacking midfielder.
Marotta said: ‘We’re actually proud that we haven’t signed Piazon under these conditions. It would have been unethical to pay a minor a salary in the region of €1million (Euros).
‘What would his future team-mates be thinking? Players who have yet to sign a professional contract.
‘It’s hypocritical to argue that players earn too much money nowadays and then criticise our decision not to meet Piazon’s demands.’ Marotta’s criticism is the latest in a growing line of attacks on Chelsea’s quest to lure the globe’s brightest talent to the club.
As reported in Sportsmail last December, Feyenoord sporting director Leo Beenhakker pointed an accusing finger at Chelsea for their pursuit of 15-year-old defender Nathan Ake.
He said: ‘It’s driving me crazy that hot prospects are walking away from us like this. The Premier League clubs spoil the market with their behaviour. Other clubs in Europe don’t behave like this but the English sides just don’t care.’
Despite the pending arrival of Piazon and the recent big money signings of Fernando Torres and David Luiz, Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay last night insisted that promoting players through the club’s academy remains a top priority.
Making a point: Carlo Ancelotti remains under pressure to bring youngsters through the academy at Chelsea
He said: ‘The strategy of the club hasn’t changed, it was always the intention to get the young guys through and develop the academy.
‘Unfortunately we hit a period where we lost our form and Carlo decided he wanted to play with experience. We needed to get the young guys out on loan.
‘I said at the start of the season that if we needed to buy to compete, we’re not going to go in any bidding wars but if the right players become available then of course we’re in a position to go into the market.
‘We proved that with Fernando and Luiz and they’ve both been fantastic signings.’
Chelsea last night declined to comment directly on Marotta’s comments.
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 07:39 AM
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Somehow I doubt we're paying a 17 year old 870 pounds per year to come here.
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 12:51 PM
Apparently this guy has never played a competitive game and has a bit of an attitude. I'd be very disappointed if he turned out to be a douchebag or wetbag.
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 11:49 AM
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big blue, on 17 March 2011 - 02:25 PM, said:
from official premier league website:
A home grown player is defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Welsh Football Association for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).
By the end of the 2015 season he will have been here continually for over 36 months.
A home grown player is defined as one who, irrespective of his nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to the Football Association or the Welsh Football Association for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons or 36 months prior to his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).
By the end of the 2015 season he will have been here continually for over 36 months.
Exactly. My understanding is that he'll sign a contract with us after he turns 18, which means that he cannot complete the required 36 months prior to his 21st birthday. Am I missing something?
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 12:08 PM
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I saw his game in the U17's championhip against Chile and to be honest, he didnt really stand out
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 02:24 PM
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footballoholic, on 19 March 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:
Exactly. My understanding is that he'll sign a contract with us after he turns 18, which means that he cannot complete the required 36 months prior to his 21st birthday. Am I missing something?
but the 36 months isn't up to his 21st birthday, it's until the end of the season of which he has turned 21.
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 04:09 PM
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Has anyone heard anything more about what we will pay him?
£870,000-per-year seems way too much. It's almost 17k/week. Not sure what we pay our youngsters, but I doubt it's that much.
£870,000-per-year seems way too much. It's almost 17k/week. Not sure what we pay our youngsters, but I doubt it's that much.
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Posted 20 March 2011 - 10:51 AM
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Posted 20 March 2011 - 01:07 PM
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Well we have to trust our scouts I suppose.
But none of the ones we have already have made an impact. Patrick Van Aanholt is the only guy I'd put money on breaking through.
We haven't found a player as good as Josh, and this lad is going to be on 17K-a-week. Jesus.
But none of the ones we have already have made an impact. Patrick Van Aanholt is the only guy I'd put money on breaking through.
We haven't found a player as good as Josh, and this lad is going to be on 17K-a-week. Jesus.
#57
Posted 20 March 2011 - 02:17 PM
Judging from that clip it'll be odd for him when he scores & the ball stays in the back of the net...!
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Posted 20 March 2011 - 06:26 PM
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So um...do we have any right-footed players?
Kakuta, McEachran, Piazon all left footed- plus Zhirkov, Cole, Malouda. Surely the most left feet in world football.
Kakuta, McEachran, Piazon all left footed- plus Zhirkov, Cole, Malouda. Surely the most left feet in world football.
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Posted 21 March 2011 - 02:39 PM
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SydneyChelsea, on 20 March 2011 - 06:26 PM, said:
So um...do we have any right-footed players?
Kakuta, McEachran, Piazon all left footed- plus Zhirkov, Cole, Malouda. Surely the most left feet in world football.
Kakuta, McEachran, Piazon all left footed- plus Zhirkov, Cole, Malouda. Surely the most left feet in world football.
Don't forget Cech.
But we also have right footed guys like Terry, Lampard, Mikel, Essien, Drogba, Torres, Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Luiz etc.
Can't see why so few tries to learn how to use both feet. It's something people should teach young talents nowadays. It's really useful.
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