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It's hard to have a real debate on it here, because some people have had a hate boner for Tuchel since the moment he walked into Stamford Bridge and can't wait to slag him off at every turn.

Re-reading it I think you are right about the fake quotes from TC.

I suppose we have to hand it to the w**ker, as he is a chelsea player but I cant ever remember him putting in a performance like that in our blue shirt. Hopefully never darkens the club doorstep again...

Just another nail in the coffin of Chelsea FC. Not because of the sale of Trev but the treatment of him over the past 2-3 years. Absolutely vile and it’s great he gets to live somewhere as wonderful as Como for the next x amount of years. It’s irrecoverable now that we are fully BlueCo CFC LDN. Clubs dead.

Are the Dutch known for their caps?

Happy for Trev, he deserves better than BlueCo.

the ownership of this club disgust me. Most solid consistent performer sold because the vile owners continue to asset strip the club. Always welcome back and I hope you do so to a heros welcome. His sale is outrageous. lots wont be bothered but we are losing an England world cup semi finalist for chumps change.

Football is f**king dead. Bloke bleeds Chelsea blue, would happily play back up just to be here, and we're selling him anyway. EDIT: This is highly likely to be fake by the way. I stand by everything I said, but just thought I would let you know.

Conducted himself with a lot of class over the last few seasons. I still think we would be just as good as we are now maybe even better if we had just promoted from our academy and saved the billions. Good luck Trev.

It would be nice to see his name spelt correctly. Proper Chels. 😪

Around December 2025.

Yes, a glow in the dark orange one, so no fumbling.

I think Tuchel wanted them to defend not to surrender. It was like an " open house". All welcome in our penalty area.

I agree he has ultimately failed. I just disagree with the notion that it is all his fault and its as simple as making attacking changes to change the defend first mentaltiy that largely came about cause everyone was fatigued.

Tuchel there complaining that our DNA doesnt want to take the ball and control it, after leaving behind all the English players that can take the ball and control it and taking Henderson along to do quizzes and magic shows.

There's some blame to share. Neither Tuchel nor the England team are top drawer. Here is an article I can agree on: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jul/16/thomas-tuchel-england-2026-world-cup-semi-final-exit-argentina

Sorry, yes, leaving on a loan - Marc Guiu will be a loan also . Badiashille is the player who will be representing the bomb squad.

Its literally the reason he was brought in, he himself said that was his job, he failed completely and just gave up on it. Bear in mind this was the next game after he had praised the players incredible mental strength after the Mexico and Norway games.

Hasn't Kellyman already agreed a further loan for this season?

BBC SportWorld Cup 2026: England squad debating Tuchel's tactics a...BBC Sport understands that Thomas Tuchel's defensive tactics in the World Cup semi-final defeat to Argentina are being hotly debated by the England squad.I don't remember seeing him on the touchline screaming at the players to get forward. He gave up any attacking impetus and threat we had with his substitutions until we went behind. Then he decided to go all Wimblebomb slinging balls into Toney and Burn up front. If Southgate had done it he would rightly have been distroyed again. On Tuchel 100% totally.

I am well aware Tuchel has been defensive in the past however I am focusing entirely on this game and not letting previous things cloud my judgement. I believe it because it's what I saw play out. I did not see Tuchel instructing the players to sit back as soon as they scored, nor did he change the system to facilitate that. Tuchel said it wasn't the plan. Guehi and Kane both commented on how the team sat back straight after scoring and how it was a mentality issue. You can argue its the manager's job to change that mindset and instill confidence to attack but it's extremely difficult to change that mentality once it has already sunk in, better managers than Tuchel complain about the team sitting too deep against their wishes on a weekly basis in leagues around the world. It's not a light switch you can just turn on and off. He realised it wasn't going to change after getting pinned back for like 20 mins after scoring so did what was best from what he had available to help the team defensively. Like I've said multiple times now, the only issue with his subs was that he didn't take Kane off for another striker which resulted in every ball forward coming back to us instantly with no room to breathe and reorganise the defence.

Behave.

already worried sat here before watching all these players come in and go out and window after window watch the team get weaker and weaker. Waited for the first team signings that never come. XA is not a miracle worker, Gusto likely to go we have the Eggo Fernandez issue to resolve Delap? Jackson? So much work to do. They have clearly missed out on a couple of his targets with penny pinching bids which wouldn’t be a problem if we weren’t still dropping £40-50m on 19-21 yr olds after one good season. I wonder what the 5 SD’s do all day. I mean seriously what must their average day be like?? A few phone calls? A Lunch meeting somewhere? Then it’s off to suck off Jorge Mendes and home before 4pm.

Whenever Garnacho starts appearing in the training photos after his prolonged rest.