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Do you remember that Sunderland semi Just ? I do. I was there at both games. Nights to remember for all the wrong reasons. Roker Park that night was the coldest I've ever been at a football match. The game probably shouldn't have been played. The pitch was frozen solid and after Big Joe done his shoulder Dale Jasper came on and played like Bambi on ice ! There was loads of aggro after and during the nightmare long drive back I nearly stacked the minibus. sh*t the life out of everyone on board. I was also at the 4-4 away at Hillsborough, and I thought I had clear memories of everything that happened at that game. But sitting here now, I have absolutely no recollection of Jasper playing in that match. Bloody Alzheimers.

My gripe with it is that it doesn't show any Chelsea games prior to the inception of the EPL, and no FA Cup matches at all. I'd chew me own arm off to watch games featuring Wee Pat jinking down the wing, Doug the Rug and his silky skills, Speedo arguing with everyone including himself and King Kerry burying a bullet header at the back stick.

Butch, for me Cech will be the difference between winning and losing tomorrow. Hilario in goal = I don't fancy our chances. Sorry, but I don't rate the bloke at all and I'm bitterly disappointed we didn't have an up and coming youngster at the club who could have come in and done a better job. Speaks volumes about our recent youth policy. For me Cech IS the best in the world. And not only the best in the world, but also one of the bravest keepers I have ever seen. He is certainly the best keeper this country has seen since Schmiechael. Before the injury he would throw himself in to any situation. And that is what I fear he may have lost. That fearlessness. Who can blame him if he hesitates to throw himself at a forwards feet going for a 70/30 ball ?

I've considered all your entries and none of them come remotely close to this. Conclusive proof, (as if it were ever needed), that Mr Christopher "I hate Chelsea" Waddle.......................... is a prize knob.

Yes. I also noticed the undisputed "best fans in football" stayed right to the end. Both of them.

Any all-time disappointing Chelsea XI has to include Dale Jasper. As an up and coming youngster he was touted to the long suffering Blue faithful as a certain future England Captain. Elegant, great footballing brian, able to play in any number of positions. And they were right. He could play in any number of positions. And he was equally sh*te in all of them.

Assists Table 2006-2007 Premiership assists table The Providers Team Assists Cesc Fabregas Arsenal 10 Frank Lampard Chelsea 8 Ryan Giggs Manchester United 7 Dimitar Berbatov Tottenham Hotspur 6 Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United 6 Wayne Rooney Manchester United 6 Robin van Persie Arsenal 6 Mikel Arteta Everton 5 Steven Gerrard Liverpool 5 Kevin Kilbane Wigan Athletic 5 Morten Gamst Pedersen Blackburn Rovers 5 Arjen Robben Chelsea 5 Georgios Samaras Manchester City 5 Nicky Shorey Reading 5 Gary Speed Bolton Wanderers 5 Gabriel Agbonlahor Aston Villa 4 Craig Bellamy Liverpool 4 Peter Crouch Liverpool 4 Kevin Davies Bolton Wanderers 4 Sean Davis Portsmouth 4 Big test for Robben V the mousers. Time for him to produce the goods in a Big game, against Big(ish) opposition.

Mike, can you give Veron the Captain's armband please ?

Agreed. And for anyone who's cared to watch closely, (and I do), this has been happening quite regularly. Several of our recent match officials seem to have had their own rules and agenda. G. Poll cops a great deal of flack, (yes, richly deserved much of the time), but he is but a mere beginner compared to the anti-Chelsea monstrosity that is Alan Wiley. Yes, Robben played very well today. But for me there was one man who was head and shoulders MOTM. At the beginning of the season I was gutted we had waved goodbye to the most versatile player in European football with the departure of William Gallas. Amazingly, that crown has now passed to the head of another Chelsea player....................... Michael Essien. He was superb.

A nice interview in which he says all the right things. But let's not get all sentimental here. The man is nowhere near good enough to be playing regularly for a top european club. Apart from the first couple of games when he was playing on pure adrenalin, he has always looked what he is, a third choice back-up keeper. I have kittens everytime the ball goes anywhere near him.

Sigh. Scott there is no snobbery involved here. The title of Tim's thread and the entire content and tone of his opening post led myself and others to believe he was calling it a day. Jacking it in. He'd had enough, (that afterall is the title of this thread). My reply was based on that assumption. If you read Nibs' reply to that post, although not as strongly worded as mine, you'll see he thought exactly the same thing. Through his subsequent posts Tim has made it clear he is still Chelsea and always will be. I am happy to accept that I was mistaken in my initial assumption and will buy him a beer at the home leg to apologise.

No problem. Let's meet up at the Peli for the Wycombe home leg and re-affirm Tim's support. I'll even buy the re-affirming fluids. And if we lose, so what ? Let's re-affirm it some more afterwards.

Well there is one Qaz. There's this bloke called Drogba. PS: Sergy, you're wrong. In his first season Henry was Arsenal's top scorer with 26 goals, (17 in the EPL).

Good post ES, you are 100% right. Last night's side was not representative of our first choice team. And therefore people's reactions to the Wycombe result, (and the situation in which that result occured), should be tempered accordingly.

I'm happy to accept that Loz. However, Tim only mentioned his undying support as a footnote right at the end of his second post. No mention of it in his first post, which opened with this truly memorable quote: Still not too sure what I mis-construed from that.

Too right. And there was a time, not so long ago, when a draw away to Wycombe would have been a normal kinda result for us. And Stinky 07, it's got fark all to do with lording it over anyone but it's got everything to do with having a bit of perspective. Harder to be a Chelsea supporter nowadays !!!! :? Strewth.

If you have to explain this point to people Nibs, you're wasting your breath. They have no idea, not a clue about real support. They are fair weather fans. Yes Tim, you included. Fair weather fans. Honestly, the visting Mancs and Scousers on here must be laughing their tits off at this, "I've had enough" thread. The last ten or so years you say ? Well my friend every single one of those years have been a glory filled cavalcade compared with the many long and dark years that went before. Hoddle, Guillit, Vialli, Ranieri, Jose ? Try watching a few years of Blanchflower, Shilletto, Hurst, Porterfield. In fact try watching ten years of that mate. Try spending your hard earned acker travelling around the country watching us get beat by the likes of Rotherham, Forest, Preston, Shrewsbury. Because that what's real football supporters do. Supporters like the many people who have followed this great club through really dire times. So, to sum up, slag the quality of the football or the tatics if you must, but "I've had enough" ? Get a farking grip mate.

Gallas and Carvalho, individual errors ? I applaud the sentiments in so much as Gallas is now an Arse C*nt and Riccy is still a boy in Blue, but you probably don't want to go down that road BJ. I could run up a cricket score with this. In your clip Gallas missed a header in the centre-circle, from which Angel then runs 20 yards unchallenged by any other Chelsea player and then launches a 20 yard thunderbolt. Unlike Gallas I know, but still, in the centre-circle. Contrast that with this well-judged and timely interception on the edge of our own box. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVDMKl8cuoE Thing is, (and this is the real problem with Carvalho), three weeks later he followed it up with an exact, carbon copy incident in the home draw with Villa ! A needless lunge, in exactly the same position, on Juan Pablo Angel. He never got near him. It left Angel totally free with a one on one against Cech. Fortunately for us, this time, he missed. And therein lies my point. Even this season, even when, (so I'm informed), Carvalho is playing out of his skin. These incidents are still occuring with regularity. OK you can say it's a fact that often, (as with my Villa example above), he makes a ricket and it doesn't hurt us. Fair do's, we get away with it. However, in my book that doesn't excuse the fact that he made the error in the first place ! Silly errors that hardly ever used to happen with you-know-who.

I agree, disrespectful. Fair point about the pace though.

Yes, but who for ?

Is or isn't? Now I am confused :?: I meant to say is. Definately. Is.

That is exactly my point ES. Gallas isn't better than Carvalho. Jack makes a great point in his post about Carvalho attacking the ball and then needing the Bank Of England behind to bail him out when it goes tits up. He's right. And it's that type of on-the-edge defending and rash decision making which gives me palpitations and cold sweats. Since Gallas has gone people on here keep telling me how brilliantly Carvy has been performing. But IMO Carvalho still makes these type of errors with distressing regularity. Far too regularly to be considered a "great" defender. He'll probably have three or four good games now, (he was extremely poor against Fulham mind), and then drop another boo boo like yesterdays. As such he is always as likely to be a liability as he is a saviour. Personally, I prefer my defenders to be more solid and reliable than that.

Ah, I understand. So it was Drogba's fault we scored nul punts from that game. Repeat after moi. "Muppet, me am" But he does have a point if you want to be technical about it. Drogba put that in we had a far better chance of winning. No matter how dangerous he was and how many games he has rescued us in the past, he did mess that one up. Now of course you can't blame him, he's human, not a machine, and of course no one holds it against him, he's saved us too many times for that. But he still does have a point Not really. What about Frank's chance at the end ? And what has Drogba missing that chance, (which I agree, he should have scored), got to do with Sheva not starting ? Sheva didn't start and Drogba still had a very good game. Hey, perhaps if Sheva hadn't been on the pitch Lamps would have buried his sitter at the end

OK. The fact is you could sit there from now and until doomsday and struggle to name three errors of that magnitude from Gallas. Whereas with Carvalho you could make a very long list of such errors very quickly. As the Brit quite rightly pointed out, he is prone to this type of thing. If the conditions under foot are poor, (same for eveyone else on the pitch by the way), don't try and be clever, clear the farking ball into the stand. Perhaps I'm a bit old fashioned. First and foremost I want my defenders to defend. After all that's what they are paid for. I'm not impressed by them skipping past opponents on the halfway line or putting in a great cross from the right wing. Many people are, I'm not. I'm especially not impressed if two minutes later they are losing their man on the edge of our box and the opposition create an opening. Carvalho is a very good footballer, but he is not IMO a great defender. Frank Le Beouf was exactly the same.

I run great. We run great. He runs great. She runs great. Veron runs great. We all run great. It's all a question of service.