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coxy15 respect for putting names forward however all are top first team players how many would be happy to be restricted to 23-30 games all competitions squad player like Ramires apart from maybe Barry who I have to admit has a higher pass % and is a player who gives 100% could of been a good buy when he left sh*tty . as for the meaningful passes that's what brings all the players % down and Ramires has never had I would agree had that in his locker but I can't think of any manager that has or would ask that of him. Its team game and at city last season Mouriniho said Ramires wouldn't of scored the goal Schurrle scored but he would never of let Lampard go free for their equalizer. I think hes worth a contract extension for what on he does do but pass consistency is no worse than the majority of other elp midfielders but u coxy hit a nail on the head with type of pass however that is a lot harder to judge and is that really enough for others to condemn all his efforts past present and future. Today at the game where there were poor displays by many I listened to fans in front sides and behind who all reckoned that they have never rated any of our players behind me Oscar to the left side Hazard/Terry(never had pace maka made him look good) to the right William and some Zouma(now were seeing the real player) despite he was playing out of position in front Costa, Cahill, Ramires , Mikel sorry for the rant but as I said earlier in the thread where is there a team with a top top player in every position that has stats in the 90% + every season.

Name the players and well check the stats

simple who do you think is a better option with a better pass rate than Ramires which is a fact rather than opinion and will sign for us. once more and you might of got it

if your asking how many other midfielders have a passing rate sub 80 very few so what makes there lack of consistency better than Ramires who has a very similar percentage rate, because then is it a case of you don't like the player and you want a player who is as inconsistent as Ramires but you like for their other attributes and as I asked who are these better players to fill his boots. Though I have to admit there is a case to bring the youth players through to fill the roles of some of less regular starters rather than look for new players.

Strange his stats show that Ramires passing is well above average so he can pass and with consistency, I would admit his shooting is on par with the majority of prem midfield players but not above. who and how many other midfielders with the same game time have better pass % and goals to min ratios. I know we all have different opinions but who are the players we think would be better alternatives to ramires and mikel and would they work we seem to have a great knack over the years of buying players that can't adapt or that mangers don't feel they can trust with time on the pitch.

Pleased with this, Like a lot of other players his form has been up and down but considering last season his appearances were limited this season he has looked bright and despite some weak parts to his game he is one player whos head doesn't drop when things are against us and will chase every ball. A trait that has been missing this season from many players games. Can't understand why some feel that every player in the team must all have the skill and attributes of say the top three players in the world. Every player has strengths and weaknesses and I would take Ramires over the many other world class teams equivalent players.

How shocking was Today not one player could control the ball with their first touch. dithering on the ball when options were available, passing even with time on their side piss poor (under hit over hit so obvious a O.A.P. could intercept) until late on everything down the middle players at times so static it looked liked they could see who could stay still the longest and when some of them did make runs the ball seamed to be played away from the space to anyone with at least two opposition players next to them. The kids in the penalty shoot out at half time had more co ordination then our first team. Falcao not a great game but what service did he get I'm pretty sure he isn't familiar with the graham Taylor Watford long ball game . attacking and defending today it looked like all week we had been practicing who could kick it the highest. Atmosphere today well I was at the back of the MHL and I am disappointed to hear there was not much that could be heard at the other end as although it wasn't the best atmosphere ever in there it did seem to be rocking at times although I know it can be deceptive when under a roof. A guy next to me said he sits mostly in the west lower and said it is mostly tourist. why in the plan to the new stadium (apart from money ) more seats will be given to cooperate and hospitality when Mourinho wants more atmosphere is a mystery ,might as well incorporate Brompton Crematory in to the new stand. Rant over.

Sorry crap cliche I admit

Too often we overly hard on ourselves and our players, the league is a marathon and not a sprint. how often in the opening weeks do we see the better teams suffering a slow start while mid table teams reach the dizzy heights of 2nd or 3rd place only to drift off after a few more games. I think last season Swansea were top of the league before we played them at home. We haven't made it easy for ourselves but there's along way to go. Some players are off the pace but we are meant to support the team through the good and the bad instead of just slating them because they aren't playing a Messi five star performance even the greats have weeks mediocre or fluctuating performances.

Signed be me and my non football loving wife who can't believe how such a deal could be done.

I enjoyed the game against Bradford in the cup last year.

I hate to I see people at the game (Men, woman and kids) sitting there making no noise apart from a slight cheer when we score. worse still those texting on their phones , kids playing on the xbox in the east lower. I must be wrong to have assumed the match was played on the big green field which as if a hint was needed is in the center of the ground. These people need to realise that to support means they need to get involved. (sorry to go on) but if you go to the match and sit there like a mouse you would be better off at home watching it on tv. If you go for the atmosphere and don't make any noise yourself you nothing more than a 21st century vampire sucking the life out the ground. I hate these people for trying to spoil my match day week in week out. Please f**k off to tennis or snooker where silence is a requirement.

Matic should get a mention as he put in a shift yesterday didn't stop running and covered well when others moved up the pitch leaving gaping holes in our defence , broke up several Leicester attacks and counter attacked instead of going sideways.

Bobby get well soon, Our best thoughts and wishes are for you winner ,topscorer and true legend.

I think that the high line can work and have to agree with gary (chuckle brother )Neville the midfield have to press when we don't have the ball too often our midfield and attackers stepped back allowing arseholes the time to pick their passes. In the thread our new system without the ball there is a footage of barcelona showing how it should be done . Our problems seem also to be in this system Terry lacks pace to get back Bosingwa makes forward runs that lack final ball in to box or give away possesion cheeply. Mostly we seem to lack the bite and strength that allowed us to battle and tough out other teams. we need to man up a bit stop complaining when we dont get the decisions going our way and get stuck in to the task.

they only leg mikel needs to break is lamps so we can get someone on with a bit of drive

Here are a few for young and old Ron Greenwood former England manager Les Allen (Clive Allens old man) so both father and son played for us Peter Sillet I think former Brighton manager when they reached f.a. cup final against manure. or was it john sillet his brother who also played for us. Tony Hateley marks old man Mark Falco (on loan from spuds) Ken Swain better known for his stint playing for Villa Tony Godden Derek johnstone 1 game Jerry Murphy

Although some find it funny and others think it being over done ,Just imagine Cole had accidently shot Torres or Luiz in the knee chipping the bone and leaving one of them injured for months. The gun should never of been at the trainning ground,the person who brought it in should be dealt with along with A.C . O.k lots of players handled the gun but unless you know 100% it's not loaded you do not pull the trigger . As much as i like Cole the player in the past he thought he could meet Jose and no one would find out = wrong . Thought he could shag behind his wifes back and not get caught = wrong. Thought he could send pics to various women and know one would know =wrong. Thought the gun was not loaded= wrong. Now to me there seems to be a bit of a pattern which he hasn't learnt from and unless someone friend ,manager ,captain bangs his head against a wall and drums in to him that he needs to grow up and learn from his mistakes, he and the club will be embarrassed again in the future by his antics

Good attitude and doe's seem to be getting better each season .At 25 there is still alot more to come from him. For a player that is subbed or comes on from the bench he has a decent goal ratio. With more time on the pitch over possibly the next five years he could become as someone else said our clubs top scorer. time will tell though.

I would like to use wingers more players that can put a team under preasure by going past their man rather then stopping and passsing back to the rb or lb or square to midfield all the time. Most teams when they play us have their lb or rb get behind the ball stopping us dead in our tracks unless we pass around them which is what they expect and have covered, if the ball is passed sqaure then their centre midfield are there to apply pressure ensuring that we play back to our central defenders or as we see too often keeper or we go into a routine of passing it back to malouda or who ever on the right then we repeat again and again. Not slating your team however i think it has also been an Arsenal problem you have the players to go past defenders but often in the past stop and over pass the ball allowing defending teams to organise and get bodies behind the ball in numbers. Also in the past Lamps, malouda, Essian Drogba have been on form in the centre of the park allowing us to play through a defence or push past via strength.

I would be sad to see him go. Injurys have kept him from having a good run in the team and when he has managed to put a run of games together he has looked the part. Enjoyed watching him linking up with others and making those direct run's in to the box ,seems to be something we are missing at the moment. However if he wants to go is better to have a new player with drive than a player thats got the arse. Also unless someone somewhere rates him highly i can not see us getting a good return on the 18 mill we spent on him

If we do finish off the danes (should) every match including the final will be tough, We still need to improve on last nights display to beat whoever is left in the CL. I can't see us winning it this year i think its more important on making sure we are still in it next year by finishing in the top four and maintaining our position on the domestic front.

Hopefully with blackpool beating spuds last night the players might see this as a chance to move back in to 4th. Although we won Copenhagen were not up to much and we have still got to move the ball faster if we are going to open up manure on Tuesday.

I think Copenhagen will be happy to contain us tonight . Were not scoring at the moment so if they can avoid the away goal and maybe hit us on the break they will be happy. Looking at our home record of recent times Copenhagen would believe they are capable of an away goal. I am dreading the possibility that they come at us guns blazing as an early goal for them could see our fragile confidence soon ebb away. However what i hope is that the players finally get it in to their heads that for some of them this could be their last chance to win the CL and get their heads down and come away with a 2- nil victory. The only thing for sure it is going to be another sweaty plams night .

Carlo as mentioned above must get us champions league football. Maybe he should put it to some of the under performers that their careers at Chelsea will not be remembered for the cups they won but the terrible season they had in their last year playing for us. That might motivate a few to pull out their fingers and show some pride.