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Ballack! He get's in everyone's way, doesn't offer anything in the way of deffensive qualities or attacking, he strolls through games and he gets paid f*kin stupid amounts for it.

We are in talks to extend his contract as well.

As i said on the Drogba thread

No doubt some numpty on here will bring up a stat that he h runs around a lot.

Great, cheers for that.

So does my dog.

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He get's in everyone's way, doesn't offer anything in the way of deffensive qualities or attacking, he strolls through games and he gets paid f*kin stupid amounts for it.

Your right, but trouble is, that sounds like some of the other players as well.

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he is the worst player in the premiership

gets caught in possession because he needs 5 mins to look up and his lazy, lacklustre, careless passing is beyond a joke

i remember him misplacing a pass, the ball rebounds back to him and he gave it away again.

kalou was bursting forward with the ball and ballack makes a move across him but instead of continuing his run, dragging a defender with him thus opening space for kalou to move into or providing kalou with an outlet, he stops - right in kalous path, kalou had to dribble round him and straight into a defender

his lack of intelligence on the football pitch just adds to his lack of any sort of technical ability. the guy has been around for over 10 years but shows no signs of experience

he is an embarrassment to himself and chelsea football club for accepting his wages every week

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The main question about Ballack is: Is this just bad form brought on by injuries or is he simply over the hill?

When Ballack came to Chelsea he failed to deliver. He was pretty bad. Then, last season, he suddenly played really well. And now he's back to his old bad form.

Unless I'm mistaking he was injured both times before he started playing badly. So who knows, maybe he can still reach the high level we've seen from him.

If Chelsea hand him a new contract then I think they still have faith in him and takes a chance that he can once more deliver at Chelsea.

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lol, i really really do

definitely the most overrated

He is neither and saying that makes you sound bad.

Whatever his current form, he is the captain of one of the best national teams and he has done and won more than 80 % of all players in the Premiership.

You may not like the way he has been playing of late and you are free and more than welcome to say so, but such opinions, extreme in their thoughtlessness, are strange to say the least.

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He is neither and saying that makes you sound bad.

Whatever his current form, he is the captain of one of the best national teams and he has done and won more than 80 % of all players in the Premiership.

You may not like the way he has been playing of late and you are free and more than welcome to say so, but such opinions, extreme in their thoughtlessness, are strange to say the least.

BUT hasn't done it at Chelsea and he's been here 3 years,

I'll also go onto to say he has finished runner up more than 90 % of all players in the Premiership.

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BUT hasn't done it at Chelsea and he's been here 3 years,

I'll also go onto to say he has finished runner up more than 90 % of all players in the Premiership.

He did last year. I remember him pulling the team on his shoulders quite a lot when Lamps was injured and he stepped up to some quite important goals.

You need skill to get to a final, especially if you have been to as many finals as him. Also, winning in a final is not entirely dependent on you.

Look, I am not trying to defend Ballack for his current form. He has been very poor and sloppy in his play and doesn't seem to play with any hunger. But saying he is the WORST player in the Premiership, even at this moment in time, is way, way off the line.

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i seriously hope we change our minds about renewing his contract. He slows the pace of our counter attacks and like many of you has said he gets in the way! i seriously think £130K a week could be spent elsewhere. get shot of him and deco is what i say we've got Lampard and Essien when he gets back to full fitness to do the central role.

So excited about Essien coming back!

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He did last year. I remember him pulling the team on his shoulders quite a lot when Lamps was injured and he stepped up to some quite important goals.

You need skill to get to a final, especially if you have been to as many finals as him. Also, winning in a final is not entirely dependent on you.

Look, I am not trying to defend Ballack for his current form. He has been very poor and sloppy in his play and doesn't seem to play with any hunger. But saying he is the WORST player in the Premiership, even at this moment in time, is way, way off the line.

I'm not saying he's the worst in the premiership - I mean - we've got Malouda FFS. :rolleyes:

But half a dozen decent performance in a 3 years spell don't warrant over £100k per week and I think we're unbalanced when he's in the side. He hasn't proved to be the big player I thought we'd signed, he's been dissapointing in a majority of the games he's played for us.

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I'm not saying he's the worst in the premiership - I mean - we've got Malouda FFS. :D

But half a dozen decent performance in a 3 years spell don't warrant over £100k per week and I think we're unbalanced when he's in the side. He hasn't proved to be the big player I thought we'd signed, he's been dissapointing in a majority of the games he's played for us.

I get your point. I half agree with you as I am very, very fond of Ballack but I can't help noting he is not performing up to his expected level.

My peeve was someone saying he is the worst player in the Premiership.

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Glad everyone has come round to my thinking :D , when we bought Ballack and Shevchenko it was the beginning of the end.

To be fair to Avram Grant he got more out of Ballack than either Jose or Scolari but along with Jokanovic he has to go down as the worst midfield buy of my generation.

It's fair to say when he left Germany he was well past his best, as was Shevchenko. I'm dreading Kenyon putting him on another fat contract but given his record I wouldn't put it past him.

John Obi Mikel is a far better player than Ballack and as we have missed the point completely by not developing Diarra to replace Maka, to retain the German and hinder the development of John Obi would be suicidal.

With Essien coming back there is no need for him in our line up or future.

He is slow, old, without desire, and the most overrated player to ever play for Chelsea.

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We started going to sh*te the minute we starting buying big name players towards the end of their careers. Ballack, Deco, Shevchenko ets.

It seems that we are more keen to get galacticos to get the crowds through the gates than passionate, hard working upcoming stars.

As I have said a zillion times, I want players out there who are playing for the shirt and willing to bleed for it. I want the shirt to mean something to the players.

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Not sure if Premiership players get paid during the offseason, but if they do:

130k a week x 52 weeks in a year = $6.75 Million Pounds

Hardly pocket change for a player that delivers so little in terms of results, effort, passion or even future potential. Not a good investment here.

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We started going to sh*te the minute we starting buying big name players towards the end of their careers. Ballack, Deco, Shevchenko ets.

It seems that we are more keen to get galacticos to get the crowds through the gates than passionate, hard working upcoming stars.

As I have said a zillion times, I want players out there who are playing for the shirt and willing to bleed for it. I want the shirt to mean something to the players.

So where do you recon we find players who bleed for our Chelsea and at the same time are top class? Our youth system? We are living in so economics driven time that the only colour people bleed for is the green. Wake up Dave!

The other scenario is to play our youngsters but then we would have to settle for midtable. I don't think that is the goal of Chelsea FC under Roman anyway.

Ballack has played below average for a while now but he is not the key in our inability to score or win games. Ballack or no Ballack we have lost these big games. Lampard is much more versatile in terms of adjusting to system as we have seen and again he has been our most important attacking side player.

Ballack has played under three managers in Chelsea and he is slow to adapt. He's always been. He was totally useless in Bayern in his first season there.

Excuses to side everyone especially Ballack needs to find their form or we have no chance of winning anything this season.

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he is the worst player in the premiership

Malouda? Downing? Richardson? Eboue? Naah... Ballacks not that bad. As someone has previously said - Ballack stepped up to the plate last season when Lamps was injured, would have been nice if he had carried it on.

On a side note, I also agree about Sheva trying when he was here. I wouldn't call him a flop purely for his strike against Spuds :rolleyes: .

Back to Ballack, I think he tries and cares, its just its not his style to run everywhere and panic, very similar to Berbatov.

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He is neither and saying that makes you sound bad.

Whatever his current form, he is the captain of one of the best national teams and he has done and won more than 80 % of all players in the Premiership.

You may not like the way he has been playing of late and you are free and more than welcome to say so, but such opinions, extreme in their thoughtlessness, are strange to say the least.

does it? u say thoughtlessness but lets consider it for a second

what does a central midfielder have to do?

hold possession

link the play

keep attacks flowing

break up opposition play

he does none of these well:

1 - he gets caught in possession more than any player i have seen because he needs so long to make a decision and dallies on the ball

2 - his passing is completely inept. the simplest of passes elude him on many, many occasions

3 - doesn't have a great 1st touch (not the worst but far from the best)

4 - he doesn't defend well

5 - he doesn't score goals

6 - i'm not saying he is lazy but he shows a complete lack of intelligence on the pitch (reference the kalou run earlier)

Malouda? Downing? Richardson? Eboue? Naah... Ballacks not that bad. As someone has previously said - Ballack stepped up to the plate last season when Lamps was injured, would have been nice if he had carried it on.

On a side note, I also agree about Sheva trying when he was here. I wouldn't call him a flop purely for his strike against Spuds :rolleyes: .

Back to Ballack, I think he tries and cares, its just its not his style to run everywhere and panic, very similar to Berbatov.

Prem (this season)

Ballack - 0 goals, 2 assists

Malouda - 2 goals, 6 assists

Richardson - 2 goals, 2 assists

Downing - 0 goals, 3 assists

Eboue - 1 goal, 3 assists

the likes of downing may have played more minutes but they are in a much, much worse team. take ballack out of the chelsea team and he'll look even worse

is he the worst player in the premiership? i think so but the facts are there for all to see - he doesn't contribute and can't do well any of the basic things that make up his role on the pitch

is he the most overrated? definitely

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