octville Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Would someone tell us that this isn't true? Who are those experts advising Roman? Did he not have the eyes to see that this man has coached Milan to ruin? Do we want Chelsea in UEFA Cup again.... another Scolari experience...grrrrr.... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...-war-chest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I just posted in the thread "proud" by Gem telling how proud I am and now I read this again. The highs are certainly high and the lows are low. Why are we tracking this "never left Italy" guy who isn't even that young anymore. Berlusconi's left hand. NO NO NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm not too fond of the idea of bringing in Ancelotti, but not because of the age thing. I mean, he's just four years older than Jose and 13 years younger than Hiddink. It's the fact that he hasn't managed a club outside his native Italy that bothers me the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjd Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm not too fond of the idea of bringing in Ancelotti, but not because of the age thing. I mean, he's just four years older than Jose and 13 years younger than Hiddink. It's the fact that he hasn't managed a club outside his native Italy that bothers me the most. Yeah thats my issue too. I cant help but feel if we do go for this guy we are taking a huge risk and there will be a massive chance of us ending up with yet another manager 8 months down the line. What would that be then - 26 managers in 5 years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maksimov Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 26 managers in 5 years ? A slight exaggeration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Doesn't speak English, has been at AC Milan for ages, doesn't sound like he wants to leave. Sound familiar Roman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkleyblue Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 A slight exaggeration... I think BJD was taking into account all the smart-arses in here who think they could have managed the squad better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uno Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I am still holding onto the small bit of hope that Roman will do some kind of deal for Hiddink to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerie Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I think BJD was taking into account all the smart-arses in here who think they could have managed the squad better Well, I don't want to brag..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanl5182 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) I said in another thread, the only other manager who i can think of who I'd be happy to take the reigns at Chelsea would be Marcelo Lippi. Speaks good english, was linked to Chelsea after Jose - and didn't seem unhappy about it, won the world cup, in fact theres nothing he hasn't won, terrific man manager (will keep Drogba in his place like he did with Del Piero in 2006) etc etc etc The only negatives are: he hasn't left Italy and its probably unlikely that we'll get him Still if theres a better candidate I'd like to know about it. Edited April 17, 2009 by jordanl5182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueEmpire Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I feel we would be better off with a younger manager, someone who can build a long term future for the club rather than going for quick fixes like Grant, Scolari, Ancelotti... Someone like Bilic might do well, but i suspect he would need time to start with to get used to the Premier League and to build a side, but unfortuntely managers rarely get any time nowadays, i don't think we'll see another Ferguson or Wenger for a long time because chairman are sacking managers after barely any time at all. However, if i were to get my way, i think Steve Clarke would do a good job, i don't think it's any surprise that when he left our results and performances suffered. So Clarke and maybe Zola or Di Matteo working alongside him, that would do me nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) why are people so hung up on age- a 55 year old could easily manage for 10 years, and might I add that those kind of spells are a rarity across europe anyway. my feelings on ancelotti again- is a smart man and a clever coach, certainly would be more positive about him than scolari, feel some criticism is unfair (his age, the squad age at milan etc) and some fair (never managed outside of italy), although at some stage all foreign coaches never managed outside of their native land. p.s. not that I am dead against it, but why is bilic as popular as he is? okay he seems cool (if you think holding a cigarette like a spliff and wearing an earing are cool things rather than crap student cliches) and is young, but what does he have on his cv that is so impressive? qualified ahead of a rubbish england side for the euros, never managed a club (I think), never managed outside his own country, got knocked out by one of the less talented turkish sides in the euros. christ imagine if he had eriksson's record! would probably be seen as mourinho, clough and gullit rolled into one! Edited April 17, 2009 by gullit4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) oops. Edited April 17, 2009 by gullit4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octville Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Doesn't speak English, has been at AC Milan for ages, doesn't sound like he wants to leave.Sound familiar Roman? Someone who hasn't coached European club football, spoke Brazilian more than English, never won anything since the World Cup with Brazil. Sound familiar too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexelk Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 why are people so hung up on age- a 55 year old could easily manage for 10 years, and might I add that those kind of spells are a rarity across europe anyway. he's only 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I was talking hypothetically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 I didnt want Ancelotti - though he is 49 and we could get some good years out of him if he does well. I think a problem with Scoalri was his training methods - players wanted more training and scolari wasnt used to seeing the team everyday where as ancelotti could be better. Obviously English is a problem. Though being linked with Adebayor and Zhirkov? Adebayor was the ideal striker last year and would have been perfect but now? Not so sure. Zhirkov no idea? Though Hiddink has hinted we should go for Pavlichenko???? i would prefer a manager in say late 40s/50s who can grow a team. Fergie was shakey with Man Utd at first but as developed his team. I would want a manager to come in every 3-5 years and clear out and buy their players - we will never end up with the youngsters battling through! I know some people dont like him but Im still debating about Rijkaard - he done well at barcelona and it was only problems with the back staff etc that it didnt work out. he still found the likes of messi and got them playing well. Wouldnt mind him finding a few young wingers with some pace at Chelsea :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 One thing people may be overlooking regarding the language barrier with Ancelotti and that's Ray Wilkins who played some time in Italy and therefore probably has quite a bit of knowledge of the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plavi26 Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 One thing people may be overlooking regarding the language barrier with Ancelotti and that's Ray Wilkins who played some time in Italy and therefore probably has quite a bit of knowledge of the language. Like Scoalri with Clark, are we sure that Ancelloti would keep Wilkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virosh Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 (edited) Doesn't speak English, has been at AC Milan for ages, doesn't sound like he wants to leave.Sound familiar Roman? I didnt want Ancelotti - though he is 49 and we could get some good years out of him if he does well. I think a problem with Scoalri was his training methods - players wanted more training and scolari wasnt used to seeing the team everyday where as ancelotti could be better.Obviously English is a problem. Though being linked with Adebayor and Zhirkov? Adebayor was the ideal striker last year and would have been perfect but now? Not so sure. Zhirkov no idea? Though Hiddink has hinted we should go for Pavlichenko???? i would prefer a manager in say late 40s/50s who can grow a team. Fergie was shakey with Man Utd at first but as developed his team. I would want a manager to come in every 3-5 years and clear out and buy their players - we will never end up with the youngsters battling through! I know some people dont like him but Im still debating about Rijkaard - he done well at barcelona and it was only problems with the back staff etc that it didnt work out. he still found the likes of messi and got them playing well. Wouldnt mind him finding a few young wingers with some pace at Chelsea :D One thing people may be overlooking regarding the language barrier with Ancelotti and that's Ray Wilkins who played some time in Italy and therefore probably has quite a bit of knowledge of the language. I dread reading this, but this is what Beckham reports about Ancelotti. Looks like there might be something more than just rumours to it. Either that or he just wants to read Shakespeare in the original. Edited April 23, 2009 by Virosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yes, there is a story about Becks and Ancelotti http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_5226786,00.html I think the language needs to be fluent. It didn't matter that Scolari knew some english and he could communicate. It tires people not being able to concentrate on the matter but the way to express it. There were stories of Scolari being very tired because of the language barrier at the beginning of the season. I bet there were some things needed to be explained to detail which Scolari counldn't do because of the barrier. Then he just dropped them and hoped for the best.."okay frank. no important..I tell deco" Forget Ancelotti and go for Zola or some other ex-Chelsea player. What about DiMatteo? It is working very well with Barcelona at the moment. Pepe Guardiola has totally revived the team. I'd hate if we hire Ancelotti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sindre Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 As i said in the thread at the rumour section. I don`t rate this guy at all, and i would absolutely hate to see that guy in charge at our club. But unfortunalty it looks like its going to be him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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