Posted September 14, 200915 yr Rightly so IMHO. Punish players for dangerous play, by all means, but diving and not even appealing for the penalty!?! One decision overturned, now just one important one to go, he Michel :) Edited September 14, 200915 yr by BLUENUT
September 14, 200915 yr Very interesting. Obviously he should never have been banned in the first place but its pretty clear they realised they have ballsed up and would not be able to manage giving all the players who dive the same ban as Eduardo. When does Ronaldo make his Champions League debut for Real Madrid ? Tomorrow night you say ? Idiots. Gutless. I could go on. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8236689.stm Edited September 14, 200915 yr by bjd
September 14, 200915 yr Hardly suprising. No way they'll overturn our one though. They'll see us as a more important signal to send out to the rest of Europe, but they also need to acknowledge that they need to have universal rules for all football transfers. As much a plague as diving is on the game, I doubt we'll see much done in diing cases. I mean how can Stevie G go down under "intent" of a foul and never be punished Scott
September 14, 200915 yr Bluenut just posted about 2 muntes before you Barny.....but yeah it wasn't as if he went down and started looking for it. But I do think they need to start carding players for diving. To me, diving in the box to get a goal scoring chance (Penalty) is equally as punishable as the last defender bringing down an attacker and denying them a goal scoring chance Scott
September 14, 200915 yr I think it was the right decision to overturn it purely because it was a punsihment that isn't consistent with other punishments dished out for the same offence. However I would like to see an announcement that. from now on, ALL offences deemed to be a dive, will be punished with a 2 (or 3 match ban).
September 14, 200915 yr One decision overturned, now just one important one to go, he Michel :) Seeing as it was FIFA who banned us and not UEFA i wouldnt get any hopes up!
September 14, 200915 yr oh look, those quick on the draw Mods have merged a topic! Yep. I not only posted it late but also in the Shed end lounge for some reason! Very quick work on their part though, didnt even give me a chance to add another post to apologise.
September 14, 200915 yr I think it's fair enough that he was let off. He wasn't trying to con the ref, he was trying to win his team a penatly, something everyone is guilty of these days.
September 14, 200915 yr im sorry but i dont agree that this is the right decision. this was a chance for UEFA to make a stand on diving amd gave them a way to create a precedent to clamp down on the diving which blights the game.
September 14, 200915 yr Oh what strong, efficient leadership you have, UEFA. Public: Eduardo is a cheating diver! UEFA: Damn, let's ban him Public: Eduardo shouldn't be the only one banned! Witch hunt! UEFA: Oh dear, let's revoke the ban and "save face". What a f**king joke they are. Truly pathetic. At least have the balls to stick to your guns.
September 14, 200915 yr I thought they wanted to try and stop players from diving, but apparently they changed their mind. And: "it was not established to our satisfaction that the referee had been deceived in taking his decision on the penalty" Surely a dive is a way to deceive the ref? Or do players dive just because they like to have some fun and never ever ever do it to get a penalty or a freekick or get someone sent off? I think overturning this is a disgrace and I've lost lots of respect for UEFA (not that I had much before this).
September 14, 200915 yr im sorry but i dont agree that this is the right decision. this was a chance for UEFA to make a stand on diving amd gave them a way to create a precedent to clamp down on the diving which blights the game. I agree with that sentiment. However, these punishments should be applied fairly and to all offenders, not just singling out individuals. My guess is UEFA don't have the balls to ban everyone who dives and risk upsetting the major clubs, so they've backed down. Pathetic, but hardly surprising.
September 14, 200915 yr It was self defence............. you may mock but ive heard plenty of arse fans say he dived to get out of the way because he had a bad injury last season. what a f**king pathetic excuse.
September 14, 200915 yr you may mock but ive heard plenty of arse fans say he dived to get out of the way because he had a bad injury last season. what a f**king pathetic excuse. Pity the steward who got hit on Saturday didn't do the same
September 14, 200915 yr im sorry but i dont agree that this is the right decision. this was a chance for UEFA to make a stand on diving amd gave them a way to create a precedent to clamp down on the diving which blights the game. Yes, but they blew that chance already. They couldve made it a hallmark and started handing out bans like candy or at least made a statement, but they didnt. But instead they let the one curious ruling stand, and did the same with us over young players. If it was the start of a campaign that would fairly punish cheaters, I wouldve been behind it 200%, but it was just another backward spasm of action from an organization beholden to the "big" clubs As usual, the people in charge of a multi billion pound game havent the slightest shadow of a clue. No reform, no courage, and no common sense. Edited September 14, 200915 yr by TheWestwayWonder
September 14, 200915 yr Yes, but they blew that chance already. They couldve made it a hallmark and started handing out bans like candy or at least made a statement, but they didnt. But instead they let the one curious ruling stand, and did the same with us over young players. As usual, the people in charge of a multi billion pound game havent the slightest shadow of a clue. No reform, no courage, and no common sense. You missed "and no point"
September 14, 200915 yr An unfairly fair decision. If this was the beginning of a major clamp-down on diving, I would have been all for it. As it was, it happened to be a single incident where media outrage spurred a one-off decision and it has been rightly overturned. This is not a good thing, mind you. Players now know if they dive and the ref doesn't see it (how many of them do ?), they go off Scot-free.
September 14, 200915 yr I don't think it was the right thing to do. Actually it pissed me off UEFA backing off on this. Sure, I agree it all went too far with Eduardo's diving case. BUT, backing off is just a joke, but this is what we expect from uefa, huh?! So instead of going further in punishing divers, all divers, they now actually allow it. NO club/player will accept any charges for diving, coz if Arsenal/Eduardo got away with punishment, they can't do this to any others. Unless there's a change in the rules and after that, punishment is allowed. Congratulations, UEFA, for you utter competence!
September 15, 200915 yr Yes, but they blew that chance already. They couldve made it a hallmark and started handing out bans like candy or at least made a statement, but they didnt. But instead they let the one curious ruling stand, and did the same with us over young players. If it was the start of a campaign that would fairly punish cheaters, I wouldve been behind it 200%, but it was just another backward spasm of action from an organization beholden to the "big" clubs As usual, the people in charge of a multi billion pound game havent the slightest shadow of a clue. No reform, no courage, and no common sense. thats my point, they could have used this ban and the furore around it to make a stand. they should have came out fighting and stated this was the beginning of an attempt to stop diving and anyone else found to be cheating in the same way would get the same punishment. but instead they sh*t out and backed down.
September 15, 200915 yr thats my point, they could have used this ban and the furore around it to make a stand. they should have came out fighting and stated this was the beginning of an attempt to stop diving and anyone else found to be cheating in the same way would get the same punishment. but instead they sh*t out and backed down. Sorry, i must have misinterpreted what you said. Either way, I am in total agreement. They blew it and bowed to the big clubs once again. And covering their asses with the feeble "there was contact between GK and player" is just the icing on this pathetic cake.
