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Following on from the discussions in Dorset's 'Rio grande' thread, who would you choose as the 23 players to represent England in the World Cup in South Africa?

Obviously make the assumption that everyone is fit.

Mine would be

3 Goalkeepers

David James

Robert green

Paul Robinson

7 Defenders

Ashley Cole

John Terry

Rio Ferdinand

Jonathan Woodgate

Joleon Lescott

Glen Johnson

Micah Richards

8 Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Steven Gerrard

Gareth Barry

Aaron Lennon

David Beckham

James Milner

Ashley Young

5 Strikers

Wayne Rooney

Theo Walcott

Darren Bent

Peter Crouch

Jermain Defoe

And when I look at that 23 it doesn't give me much confidence.

Following on from the discussions in Dorset's 'Rio grande' thread, who would you choose as the 23 players to represent England in the World Cup in South Africa?

Obviously make the assumption that everyone is fit.

Mine would be

3 Goalkeepers

David James

Robert green

Paul Robinson

7 Defenders

Ashley Cole

John Terry

Rio Ferdinand

Jonathan Woodgate

Joleon Lescott

Glen Johnson

Micah Richards

8 Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Steven Gerrard

Gareth Barry

Aaron Lennon

David Beckham

James Milner

Ashley Young

5 Strikers

Wayne Rooney

Theo Walcott

Darren Bent

Peter Crouch

Jermain Defoe

And when I look at that 23 it doesn't give me much confidence.

Bravo for leaving out Hargreaves and Heskey. :D My squad would be the same, although I'd rather Beckham not go to the World Cup but it doesn't appear that anyone is going to usurp his place so we're stuck with him and all the hyperbole that surrounds with him.

3 Goalkeepers

David James

Robert Green

Joe Hart

7 Defenders

Ashley Cole

John Terry

Gary Cahill

Jonathan Woodgate

Joleon Lescott

Phil Jagielka (RB or CB)

Micah Richards

8 Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Mark Noble

Gareth Barry

Aaron Lennon

Tom Huddlestone

James Milner

Ashley Young

5 Strikers

Wayne Rooney

Theo Walcott

Darren Bent

Gabriel Agbonlahor

Jermain Defoe

Same as Loz's, except for these omitted players: -

David Beckham - over-rated past-it publicity whore

Steven Gerrard - gobby w*nker, should be in nick anyway

Peter Crouch - what the f*ck was he doing in the squad anyway? Scores against poor sides, but does f*ck all against top teams

Glen Johnson - England are gonna need a defensive full-back in the WC, not a pseudo winger

Paul Robinson - nowhere near good enough, although he was a few years back

Gordon Banks

Peter Bonetti

George Cohen

Ray Wilson

Bobby Moore

Jack Charlton

Ron Harris

John Terry

Ashley Cole

Bobby Charlton

Nobby Stiles

Martin Peters

Alan Ball

John Hollins

Alan Hudson

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Geoff Hurst

Jimmy Greaves

Roger Hunt

Peter Osgood

Ian Hutchinson

Kerry Dixon

Hart

James

Kirkland

Brown

Bridge

Cole

Ferdinand

Jagielka

Johnson

Terry

Barry

Beckham

Carrick

Cole

Gerrard

Hargreaves

Lampard

Lennon

Bent

Crouch

Defoe

Rooney

Walcott

... somehow I don't see this team beating Spain. Yeah, I could replace Carrick or Beckham with Lee Cattermole or somebody, but this is going to have a marginal effect.

Goalkeepers

Green

James

Foster

defenders

A cole

Terry

Ferdinand

Johnson

Lescott

King

Cahill

midfielders

Lamps

Gerrard

Barry

Joey

Beckham

Lennon

Carrick

young/milner (one of those two)

Strikers

Rooney

Walcott

Bent

Crouch

Defoe

Not going to put Heskey there although im 95% sure Fabio will take him, very frustrating to watch him play. I put Crouch in just because he adds a different dimension to attack and i think he makes a good partner for Rooney. Carlton Cole has a pretty good shout if he keeps on scoring goals

Hart

James

Kirkland

Brown

Bridge

Cole

Ferdinand

Jagielka

Johnson

Terry

Barry

Beckham

Carrick

Cole

Gerrard

Hargreaves

Lampard

Lennon

Bent

Crouch

Defoe

Rooney

Walcott

Unfortunately, the Polish national team did not play at World Cup ::clap2:: :( :(

  • 1 month later...

Green

James

Robinson

Cole

Bridge

Terry

Woodgate

Jagielka

Brown

Rio (if fit/in form by then, if not Dawson)

Lampard

Beckham

Gerrard

Cole

Barry

Milner

Young

Lennon

Rooney

Carlton Cole

Defoe

Walcott

Crouch

Goalkeepers

Green

James

Robinson

Defenders

John Terry

Ashley Cole

Rio Ferdinand

Jolean Lescott

Gary Cahill

Glen Johnson

Phil Jagielka

Wayne Bridge

Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Steven Gerrard

James Milner

Aaron Lennon

Gareth Barry

Ashley Young

Strikers

Carlton Cole

Wayne Rooney

Jermaine Defoe

Peter Crouch

Darren Bent

Goalkeepers

David James

Robert green

Paul Robinson

Defenders

Ashley Cole

John Terry

Rio Ferdinand

Jonathan Woodgate

Joleon Lescott

Glen Johnson

Micah Richards/Wes Brown

Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Steven Gerrard

Gareth Barry

Aaron Lennon

David Beckham

James Milner

Ashley Young/SWP/Carrick

Strikers

Wayne Rooney

Theo Walcott

Darren Bent

Peter Crouch

Jermain Defoe

On the basis of my 23:

The starting line up, for me, would be:

------------------------------Green

-----Johnson-----Ferdinand---------JT---------Ash

-----Lennon--------Barry---------Lampard-----Gerrard

--------------------Rooney----------Defoe

Bench: James, Lescott, Bridge, Carrick, Milner, SWP, Bent.

Edited by Ruh Buh Juh

no swp?

he's been outstanding this season

i'll post mine up later...

I take it that is a joke? ::ChELSeAFaN::

He's been sh*te.

And Darren Bent is never an England International in a million years.

3 Goalkeepers

David James

Robert green

Chris kirkland

8 Defenders

Ashley Cole

John Terry

Rio Ferdinand

wayne bridge

Joleon Lescott

Glen Johnson

Matt upson

Phil Jagielka

8 Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole

Steven Gerrard

Gareth Barry

Carrick

David Beckham

James Milner

lennon

4 Strikers

Wayne Rooney

Carlton Cole

heskey

Jermain Defoe

Cancel it and instead of spending the money on whores in suits and overpaid egos use it to improve the lives of millions who still suffer in Africa (especially South Africa) today

  • 4 weeks later...

Goalkeepers

Joe Hart

David James

Rob Green

Defenders

Glen Johnson

Phil Jagielka

John Terry

Rio Ferdinand

Ledley King (if fit)

Gary Cahill

Ashley Cole

Stephen Warnock

Midfielders

Aaron Lennon

Theo Walcott

Frank Lampard

Steven Gerrard

Gareth Barry

James Milner

Joe Cole

Ashley Young

Forwards

Wayne Rooney

Jermaine Defoe

Peter Crouch

Kevin Davies (Davies and walcott can switch positions when playing against small left backs. Davies playing there was the reason Utd and Evra in particular always struggled against Bolton)

Goalkeepers

Robert Green

Joe Hart

...errr... David James I guess.

Defenders

John Terry

Ashley Cole

Rio Ferdinand

Matthew Upson

Phil Jagielka

Glen Johnson

Gary Cahill

Midfielders

Frank Lampard

Joe Cole (pending fitness/form, but definatley worth it)

Gareth Barry

James Milner

Aaron Lennon

Theo Wallcott

Ashley Young

Gerard Stevens

Strikers

Wayne Rooney

Peter Crouch

Jermaine Defoe

Gabby Agbonlahor

Darren Bent

If Lescott is picked then Capello has officially lost any trust he previously had in me.

PloKoon13's completely serious and foolproof World Cup team:

-----------------Hart----------------

Volz---Ferdinand----Terry----A Cole

--------------Cattermole-----------

--------------------------------------

------Lampard---------Milner--------

Johnson-----------------------J Cole

---------------Rooney----------------

Clearly a World Cup winning side which would play classic English football.

Hart - on his current form, the best English keeper in the league.

Volz - all our other right backs are sh*t, and I don't think he ever played a game for Germany. He was a titan when he wasn't injured, and word on the grapevine is that he might be making a return to Schalke sometime soon.

Ferdinand - form is temporary, class is per- ok, never mind.

Terry - the lion at the heart of the English defence and the captain who will the first to lay his hands on the trophy.

A Cole - no explanation needed - the best left back on the planet

Cattermole - will play the Jackie Charlton role of kicking the opponents' forwards and hoofing the ball up to Bobby Charlton (or in this case, Rooney).

Lampard - best player on the planet on his day, and with a midfield built around him, he will pump the goals in like he's Jimmy Greaves.

Milner - a great young player who has been in great form this season for Villa. Also this way, we get to laugh some more at Gerrard.

Johnson - a liability in defence, but a monster going forward. It makes sense, right?

J Cole - will have hit top form again by this point, and besides, the alternative is Ashley Young.

Rooney - as much as I hate to admit it, he's really quite good. I think Heskey or Crouch would fit the formation better, but it seems like a waste to leave him out really.

Also - Bullard would have to be somewhere in the squad, as he and Volz would no doubt strike up a great dressing room partnership, and their wacky antics would keep everyone entertained while Gerrard sits sulking in the corner after finishing 10th in the league.

Bring on Brazil.

  • 1 month later...

Looks like Joey will not be able to make the cut. He's missed out on a berth for the Egypt friendly and that was pretty much his last chance.

Capello has gone on to state that Cole's recent form hasn't helped his World Cup chances.

Been subbed early into the second half was, as one would say, 'the last nail in the coffin'.

The thing is, this would not have helped his morale.

P.S. : Extremely happy that Shawcross has finally got his chance. But the Ramsey tackle didn't come at the right time for him, did it?

I think he'll be alright, he looked better in his time yesterday than he has pretty much has all year his pass to Frank was a good ball. In my belief we've got to try and get him out there on that right wing more often. That's where he plays best, despite telling us for years he was a number 10 he hasn't matched up there.

On another front, what are everyone's thoughts on Carlton Cole's chances. I know he was undisciplined while with us, but surely now he's pulling his weight, he deserves some sort of chance. He's been on fire when he's been fit. Always makes me laugh that despite all the carry on about their famous junior academy as well as the whole us stealing their best players from them, their best player is a Chelsea junior.

  • 2 weeks later...
I think he'll be alright, he looked better in his time yesterday than he has pretty much has all year his pass to Frank was a good ball. In my belief we've got to try and get him out there on that right wing more often. That's where he plays best, despite telling us for years he was a number 10 he hasn't matched up there.

On another front, what are everyone's thoughts on Carlton Cole's chances. I know he was undisciplined while with us, but surely now he's pulling his weight, he deserves some sort of chance. He's been on fire when he's been fit. Always makes me laugh that despite all the carry on about their famous junior academy as well as the whole us stealing their best players from them, their best player is a Chelsea junior.

Carlton Cole would be my first choice to start with rooney, would be good with defoe too. He's miles better than Heskey and I'd rather see him than Bent..

I am almost speechless at how many of you have put Crouch in the squad!

See Bluebeard's post for why!

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