Uno Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Has anyone heard any news about the appeal on the transfer ban? Is there a set date when we will hear? I hear all this talk of transfers in Jan so i guess the press think that the ban will be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 If we can end up with getting the ban for just one window, I would personally prefer the January window to be the one. If the appeal goes through and we get banned for just the August window, that will do the club more harm. Of course, no ban is better and isn't that what we are aiming for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjd Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 If we can end up with getting the ban for just one window, I would personally prefer the January window to be the one. If the appeal goes through and we get banned for just the August window, that will do the club more harm. Of course, no ban is better and isn't that what we are aiming for? The fact that the club have opted to try and get the ban suspended speaks volumes for the faith the club have that it will be evenutally halved or overturned completely. I simply dont see why they would do this otherwise. The generally feeling seems to be that it will be suspended and so we can look forward to a hell of an interesting January and all sorts of stupid speculation between now and then!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think you have a decent enough squad to cope with a transfer-less January and keep up your good form; however if the ban isn't lifted by the summer you can already say goodbye to next season's silverware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sals Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I think you have a decent enough squad to cope with a transfer-less January and keep up your good form; however if the ban isn't lifted by the summer you can already say goodbye to next season's silverware. Why is that? Our team is currently the best in the league just because our players will be a year older do you think they will just lose it like that. Im not saying we will definitely win but we will be competing for silverware on all fronts next season with or without this transfer ban being lifted. Drogba is 31 and playing the best football of his career who is to say that he won't play even better next season. Ballack is currently playing his best football since joining Chelsea. Lampard is always consistently one of the worlds best midfielders. I would say your man united squad currently has a lot more deficiencies than our team and you are lucky that you guys didnt get that transfer ban because you are a team that really would have been in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anguspm Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 You can sign anyone you want.... excpect Sr Aguero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moos Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 If we would be allowed to sign in january, can we sign players then who wont arrive until summer? As for getting banned for january or the summer I'm not sure what would be best. With ACN coming up I really feel that we will lose lots of strength during that time. Can we really continue winning games with Sturridge instead of Drogba? And losing Essien will hurt quite alot. Sure we have Deco or Joey, but they aren't the same as Essien. Ballack can cover for Mikel, but who do we have as backup then? I would therefore not mind getting a player or two in january. On the other hand, the summer transfer window is perhaps more important because most players change teams then. Villa and Silva from Valencia might move and I expect it to be in the summer and we surely want to have a shot at getting them. The thought of ManU getting both of them is quite honestly a bit scary. And will Aguero really move from Athletic in the middle of season? Might he not stay until summer? If that is the case and we really want him then a transfer ban during the summer would make things rather difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fester Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 And will Aguero really move from Athletic in the middle of season? Might he not stay until summer? If that is the case and we really want him then a transfer ban during the summer would make things rather difficult. I think he will now that Athletico cannot qualify for group stages of Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Why is that? Our team is currently the best in the league just because our players will be a year older do you think they will just lose it like that. Im not saying we will definitely win but we will be competing for silverware on all fronts next season with or without this transfer ban being lifted. Drogba is 31 and playing the best football of his career who is to say that he won't play even better next season. Ballack is currently playing his best football since joining Chelsea. Lampard is always consistently one of the worlds best midfielders. I would say your man united squad currently has a lot more deficiencies than our team and you are lucky that you guys didnt get that transfer ban because you are a team that really would have been in trouble Let me ask you back - why is that, that Drogba and Ballack finally display their very best abilities ? In my opinion, it is entirely down to Ancelotti's tactics, and his innovations in midfield that also bear upon the attack. Chelsea is currently enjoying the relative advantage implemented by Ancelotti's strengthened central midfield, however every tactic has its flaws, and what is currently making you so strong also bears the germ that will hinder you next season, when the other teams get used to your play and, so to say, find you out. For instance the obvious lack of width in the midfield. In parallel to that, your defence is definitely on the wane, although Ivanovic has come to the fore in the past months. I think Terry, Carvalho will be worse and worse as time goes by. That's why if you aren't able to innovate in next summer's transfer window by bringing in fresh blood, I doubt you'll compete with the likes of United or Arsenal who, in spite of all that is said, have blended youth with experience in their first team and will doubtless improve in the next couple of seasons. Edited November 4, 2009 by nani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Nani touches upon a point I was thinking about earlier today whilst I was supposed to be paying attention at work. When Ancelotti came in we all knew we would be playinf the diamond and many dreaded the idea of it. As things are it is working and wrking well. It is bringing out the very best in Ballack and Deco and it would seem Joe Cole and also both Anelka and Drogba are thriving due to being played with a strike partner rather than having to carry the whole burden of responsibility themselves. However just as they eventually did with Jose's 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation teams will find a way to negate our diamond and it is then that Ancelotti and our squad will be truly tested as they will need to be able to change. I don't agree with Nani about Arsenal in the slightest as they have a far bigger problem with this than we, or anyone does, Wenger will never change the way Arsenal play no matter how much key games require it. I also think it is nonsense that we won't be able to compete next season if we can't buy players in the summer. If we were to miss two summer windows then I think we would have a big problem but the current squad easily has another strong year in it and the United side needs a pretty hefty overhaul as well and could suffer a period of transition next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I don't agree with Nani about Arsenal in the slightest as they have a far bigger problem with this than we, or anyone does, Wenger will never change the way Arsenal play no matter how much key games require it. I also think it is nonsense that we won't be able to compete next season if we can't buy players in the summer. If we were to miss two summer windows then I think we would have a big problem but the current squad easily has another strong year in it and the United side needs a pretty hefty overhaul as well and could suffer a period of transition next season. I actually think Wenger is the most spoilt manager in terms of midfield choices when his team is injury-free; Rosicky, and ultimately Nasri's return can virtually allow him to play any midfield formation to decent avail. Whether he will do it or not is indeed questionable; the reason why I quoted Arsenal was mainly to underscore their team's youth, and the fact their players will improve in the next years. If we stopped the transfer flow for every big 4 club for the next two years, I can definitely say Arsenal would clinch the title at the end of next season. As for United, I completely share your views that we still need to make up for Ronaldo's departure; however I feel we are already going through a period of transition at the moment (our players getting used to playing a more orthodox 4-4-2 as opposed to the convoluted 4-5-1 in CR7's days) and this transition will shortly come to an end with the likes of Valencia and Berbatov (at last) settling in well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The Arsenal youth thing is ridiculously overplayed though. If thy were sensible and concentrated on one or two youth players at a time and brought them into a team which had a balanc of experience and quality then they would be in much better shape. By trying to bring through 6 or 7 at a time they are always destined to fall short. Wenger an play any midfield combination he wants with the players he has but until one of them learns how to win a tackle regularly then they are always going to struggle to be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The Arsenal youth thing is ridiculously overplayed though. If thy were sensible and concentrated on one or two youth players at a time and brought them into a team which had a balanc of experience and quality then they would be in much better shape. By trying to bring through 6 or 7 at a time they are always destined to fall short.Wenger an play any midfield combination he wants with the players he has but until one of them learns how to win a tackle regularly then they are always going to struggle to be consistent. Spot on, he operated far too curtly. However the likes of Arshavin, Rosicky and Eduardo can prove experienced fulcrums in the next couple of seasons, and bring the younger lads to the fore. All will depend on their physical form throughout the season, as Arsenal must be the most injury-prone team in the PL (Clichy injured again yesterday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I would say your man united squad currently has a lot more deficiencies than our team and you are lucky that you guys didnt get that transfer ban because you are a team that really would have been in trouble I think the main problem would be at goalkeeper. Unless you can convince Van der Sar to carry on, you'll have to rely on Foster and Kuszczak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 We're not the only ones concerned about goalkeepers, right ? I couldn't agree more, we are terribly in need of a goalkeeper as Foster and Kuszczak really don't seem to be coming along. Fergie looks keen on Foster though, so we'll see in the long run. He could be a good goalkeeper but he often has these gruesome dips in concentration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonetti Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The CSKA goalie looked pretty useful last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Akinfeev was brilliant. I already wrote about him on the caf, I think he is a great potential. Many disagreed and pointed out at his numerous flaps in the Russian league.. The choice is quite restricted these days, Lloris at Lyon is brilliant but too expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonetti Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 What di you think of the individual performances of your guys last night? - For what its worth, I thought Fletcher had a good game and that your namesake was dire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Absolutely, Fletcher is our best midfielder so far this season. His booking for an alleged dive was probably the most preposterous piece of refereeing ever seen. Gary Neville was my unlikely man of the match. The man was slated on our boards in the past few months, but he proved all critics wrong. Scholes too was good, it was a great evening for our veterans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonetti Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Absolutely, Fletcher is our best midfielder so far this season. His booking for an alleged dive was probably the most preposterous piece of refereeing ever seen. Dont agree - take a look at Ovrebos performance last season - Fletcher was wrongly booked and cant appeal, we were robbed of 3 penalties - thats proposterous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I actually agree in general that a ban is in place for actions we used in getting Kakuta but the thing I don't understand is why we are the only team to suffer from this. We shouldn't be able to buy ourselves out of this wouldn't fit the crime. I bet ManU, Real, Barca, Lyon, Arsenal, Scum and bunch of other big teams do and have done exactly what we did. I think we shouldn't get a ban until all the other coups that "stink" are looked into. Hope other french teams raise their voices as well. The case reeks like a decision made by envious people who still see us buying the titles. I think it is starting to get very old. Abramovic is a footballman whereas Hicks co., Glazers and UAE-people probably aren't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nani Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Dont agree - take a look at Ovrebos performance last season - Fletcher was wrongly booked and cant appeal, we were robbed of 3 penalties - thats proposterous Yeah, evidently, I meant for us United fans in the heat of the moment where we were trailing to Moscow, it wasn't a fathomable decision. Last season's semi-final was the final proof the video should be implemented in football (or at least the possibility to appeal a decision or two in a game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Last season's semi-final was the final proof the video should be implemented in football (or at least the possibility to appeal a decision or two in a game) No, you didnt need video footage to see Ovrebo was incompetent. He has never explained why he missed an (unmissable) hand ball from 10 yards away with a full unhindered view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Fletcher is our best midfielder so far this season. Agreed. I might even be tempted to say he's your best midfielder full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai_blue Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 BBC reporting transfer ban has been suspended... LETS GO AND BUY EVERYONE IN JANUARY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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