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Why Ancelotti has to go and why he will

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Firstly let me say this, it's not a knee jerk reaction to tonight's performance or result, it is

just what Roman is entitled to do and to be honest has the power and respect of Chelsea

fans to do in what way he desires after funding the purchase of Torres and Luiz.

What manager would faiil and to the point not accept responsibility for Torres nor scoring in

so many games ? He is no Chris Sutton take it from me!

Drogba and Torres to any manager would be mouthwatering, whilst I cannot believe our best

player on the night in Drogba was withdrawn to wait until such as stage when Zhircov was on a red card

and Nani and Valencia were on the right were simply there to ensure this would our left flank would be

under threat without Malouda coming on 20 minutes after he should have speaks Liverpool 0 Milan 3

and no European Cup, sorry but it was Ranieri like and Roman is no fool!

I'm pissed but speaking from head and heart,

We are well capable of wiinning 2-1 at Old Trafford and fiinishing 4th in the premier league with our

current squad, Josh can't even get on the bench that is how strong we are!

Roman has to think Jose here, he will that is for certain.

We got lucky last season, I have stood and stood by Carlo but the Ray Wilkins influence HAS to be

taken into consideration.

Many people . Barak springs to mind have questioned Carlo's credential's in the past, I have stood firm in

support of him, but his decisions, particularly in substituations this season have been clueless and like against Monaco

in Claudio's days have been cruelly exposed !

Jose wants to come home, Barca will beat real and go on to champions league glory, roman will axe Carlo

and re appoint the special one it is gonna happen.

It's been a long time gonna happen and investment is the key.

No contract is on the table and it will never be

If not Jose who will it be ?

No way should Manure be ahead in the PL and 1-0 up in the first leg,

player for player we are miles better than that red scum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the rest of the premiership !!!!!!!!!!!

Though we should have bought Torres and Luiz in the summer to replace the limited

squad in the summer sales,

Roman is clued up and Carlo is taking us for a ride !

We are a team of individuals and our individuals are better than theirs, but what today showed is that they are miles better than us as a team, that isn't Carlo's fault, but when you have a manager with such an enigma as Old Whiskey team spirit like this is created over a period of time.

I admit we were lucky last season that United were off colour and we should have won the league by more than we did, but I don't see how Carlo can go from a decent manager to a bad manager in 12 months, often in the past with Scolari and Grant in particular i've been quick to criticise the manager, but I feel we need to get rid of this culture at the club of changing things when the chips are down, we never used to do it pre-RA

I will have spent over £200 to watch these two legs and travelled 500 miles and am as disappointed as anyone, but I can't say it's Carlo's fault.

He made a huge mistake in starting Torres against Liverpool and a huge mistake in starting Bosingwa ahead of Paulo tonight but that aside he hasn't been at fault for the ineptitude of Lamps, Malouda, Anelka, Essien all of which have been anonymous through large parts of the season.

When the strikers + Lampard/Essien start to perform we may get somewhere, but to have played this badly and find ourselves only 1-0 down in the QF of the CL and a realistic chance of coming 2nd can't be that bad IMO.

It's the players that have let us down, not Carlo. The sooner people realise this (Roman Inc) the sooner we may actually get somewhere.

We are a team of individuals and our individuals are better than theirs, but what today showed is that they are miles better than us as a team, that isn't Carlo's fault, but when you have a manager with such an enigma as Old Whiskey team spirit like this is created over a period of time.

I admit we were lucky last season that United were off colour and we should have won the league by more than we did, but I don't see how Carlo can go from a decent manager to a bad manager in 12 months, often in the past with Scolari and Grant in particular i've been quick to criticise the manager, but I feel we need to get rid of this culture at the club of changing things when the chips are down, we never used to do it pre-RA

I will have spent over £200 to watch these two legs and travelled 500 miles and am as disappointed as anyone, but I can't say it's Carlo's fault.

He made a huge mistake in starting Torres against Liverpool and a huge mistake in starting Bosingwa ahead of Paulo tonight but that aside he hasn't been at fault for the ineptitude of Lamps, Malouda, Anelka, Essien all of which have been anonymous through large parts of the season.

When the strikers + Lampard/Essien start to perform we may get somewhere, but to have played this badly and find ourselves only 1-0 down in the QF of the CL and a realistic chance of coming 2nd can't be that bad IMO.

It's the players that have let us down, not Carlo. The sooner people realise this (Roman Inc) the sooner we may actually get somewhere.

Well said mate.

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We are a team of individuals and our individuals are better than theirs, but what today showed is that they are miles better than us as a team, that isn't Carlo's fault, but when you have a manager with such an enigma as Old Whiskey team spirit like this is created over a period of time.

I admit we were lucky last season that United were off colour and we should have won the league by more than we did, but I don't see how Carlo can go from a decent manager to a bad manager in 12 months, often in the past with Scolari and Grant in particular i've been quick to criticise the manager, but I feel we need to get rid of this culture at the club of changing things when the chips are down, we never used to do it pre-RA

I will have spent over £200 to watch these two legs and travelled 500 miles and am as disappointed as anyone, but I can't say it's Carlo's fault.

He made a huge mistake in starting Torres against Liverpool and a huge mistake in starting Bosingwa ahead of Paulo tonight but that aside he hasn't been at fault for the ineptitude of Lamps, Malouda, Anelka, Essien all of which have been anonymous through large parts of the season.

When the strikers + Lampard/Essien start to perform we may get somewhere, but to have played this badly and find ourselves only 1-0 down in the QF of the CL and a realistic chance of coming 2nd can't be that bad IMO.

It's the players that have let us down, not Carlo. The sooner people realise this (Roman Inc) the sooner we may actually get somewhere.

Mate I hate moaning about Carlo,

I'm well against change but Jose IS the answer and something of the same ... he is Chelsea and nobody would complain

if he returned, you included if the truth was to be known.

I agree Essien all season, Lamps tonight have been bad.

But I urge all Chelsea fans to think INTER last season, out thought, out subbed out classed

and the way we have gone since winning the double and losing butch wilkins

it has to be of debate

Mate I hate moaning about Carlo,

I'm well against change but Jose IS the answer and something of the same ... he is Chelsea and nobody would complain

if he returned, you included if the truth was to be known.

I agree Essien all season, Lamps tonight have been bad.

But I urge all Chelsea fans to think INTER last season, out thought, out subbed out classed

and the way we have gone since winning the double and losing butch wilkins

it has to be of debate

I beg to differ...

He had his time here and third season was starting to show that teams had found out how to beat us, we played some boring stuff and he wanted more money spent on the team...when that didn't happen he was always going to be gone and although he was only in charge for a short period of his last season we had even struggled in the CL with Sheva scoring to save his blushes in a rare appearance.

Selective memory prevails wher Mourinho is concerned and although it was great to get back to back titles we should have made it three in a row and should have beaten Liverpool im the CL or at least played against them like we wanted to win.

I'd support the team the same as I do now and back him all the way but I honestly hope he waits for Ferguson to retire before he comes back here and takes over at UTD.

Mate I hate moaning about Carlo,

I'm well against change but Jose IS the answer and something of the same ... he is Chelsea and nobody would complain

if he returned, you included if the truth was to be known.

I agree Essien all season, Lamps tonight have been bad.

But I urge all Chelsea fans to think INTER last season, out thought, out subbed out classed

and the way we have gone since winning the double and losing butch wilkins

it has to be of debate

Inter beat Barca, who are streets ahead of us and completely dismantled a strong Bayern Munich, after they beat Barca 3-1 at the San Siro, there was only gonna be one winner.

People seems to think that if we get Jose back we will go back to the Chelsea of winning leagues on 95 points and sweeping aside every team in the PL as we did 5 years ago, but this ISN'T the same team.

We had a young vibrant JT, Drogba and Lampard, all of which have lost at least a yard of pace over the last 5 years. They are still fantastic players, but not as good as they were 5 years ago when they were in their prime. We also had Makalele who was the greatest holding midfielder of all time, when we had him players like Lampard and Essien never even had to think twice about tracking back, never had any team in PL history been as solid as we were then. I remember when Luke Moore scored for Villa against us and it was the first goal we had conceeded in 7 games and the nation erupted in tears of joy, jubilationand genuine disbelief that we had conceeded a goal.

Carvalho (Prime), G*llas (Prime) and JT (Prime) were streets ahead of Ivanovic (now), JT (now) and Alex (now) as harsh as that may sound as I love Alex, JT and Brana to bits.

As well as this under Jose we had wingers, without Robben, J.Cole and Duff we would not have won a thing, they are far better than Malouda, Anelka and Kalou Chelsea were like a machine then and even better and mentallly tougher than any United side of the PL era.

I hate United with a passion, but the way they condition their players and the mentality they drill into them is something to be admired, it's something only Mourinho has repeated.

Getting to the point, things would not necessarily be all rosy again if Jose came back, he's used to a certain style of players which we currently do not have. Ancleotti is brilliant at working with older squads, whereas Jose has always worked with young vibrant squads with players in their relative prime which is why he left Porto, us and Inter. I honestly think we would not have been much better off if Jose had never left Chelsea

I love Jose to bits, but now isn't the time for him to come back. I'm more than happy to stick with the man that brought the double to our club and with the help of Hiddink, get us back on track

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I agree with Myles. It isn't the manager, it's the players. There were periods of time tonight in which the players seemed not to care about what's was (well, still is) at stake.

Of course I would welcome Jose back, but look how long he's spent at each club he's managed. How long would he stay here for? Do we really want to invest in the players he'd want to bring only to rebuild the squad once he leaves again?

What we need is consistency, manager wise and player wise.

We can't rely on players who have one or two good games and five woeful games, and then another two good games.

We also need a wider variety strategy wise. We only seem to have a plan "A", with plan "B" involving whatever springs to mind the moment plan "A" fails.

Jose left Porto because he realised after their CL success, he would easily get a job at a top club and more importantly wouldn't be able to keep hold of star players like Deco, Costinha, Tiago, Maniche, Mendes etc.

Jose left Chelsea because he realised we were a team in transition, and after selling Robben and Duff, with J.Cole starting to lose fitness and form were never going to be able to overhaul a United squad that was spending for fun and had Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney all of which were considered borderline World Class at the time. He was never going to get the funds to find the star players he wanted. It was clear he never wanted Shevchenko or Ballack, which is part of the reason why he and Roman came to blows IMO.

Jose left Inter because he knew he had taken them as far as he could and could leave a hero, just as he did with Chelsea and Porto, he knew Inter's decline was imminent and jumped ship.

Jose WILL leave Real when he wins the Spanish Cup or CL (probably latter), even most Madrid fans would begrudgingly accept this Barca side is one of the best (if not the best) club side in the modern era, so Mourinho would never be seen as a failure there if he couldn't succeed where many have and WILL fail in trying to overhaul the Catalans.

IMO he'll go to City and when they fall into transition, will probably revive another Bundesliga club before finishing his club career at Chelsea and moving on to his dream job, Portuguese national manager.

Firstly let me say this, it's not a knee jerk reaction to tonight's performance or result, it is

just what Roman is entitled to do and to be honest has the power and respect of Chelsea

fans to do in what way he desires after funding the purchase of Torres and Luiz.

What manager would faiil and to the point not accept responsibility for Torres nor scoring in

so many games ? He is no Chris Sutton take it from me!

Drogba and Torres to any manager would be mouthwatering, whilst I cannot believe our best

player on the night in Drogba was withdrawn to wait until such as stage when Zhircov was on a red card

and Nani and Valencia were on the right were simply there to ensure this would our left flank would be

under threat without Malouda coming on 20 minutes after he should have speaks Liverpool 0 Milan 3

and no European Cup, sorry but it was Ranieri like and Roman is no fool!

I'm pissed but speaking from head and heart,

We are well capable of wiinning 2-1 at Old Trafford and fiinishing 4th in the premier league with our

current squad, Josh can't even get on the bench that is how strong we are!

Roman has to think Jose here, he will that is for certain.

We got lucky last season, I have stood and stood by Carlo but the Ray Wilkins influence HAS to be

taken into consideration.

Many people . Barak springs to mind have questioned Carlo's credential's in the past, I have stood firm in

support of him, but his decisions, particularly in substituations this season have been clueless and like against Monaco

in Claudio's days have been cruelly exposed !

Jose wants to come home, Barca will beat real and go on to champions league glory, roman will axe Carlo

and re appoint the special one it is gonna happen.

It's been a long time gonna happen and investment is the key.

No contract is on the table and it will never be

If not Jose who will it be ?

No way should Manure be ahead in the PL and 1-0 up in the first leg,

player for player we are miles better than that red scum !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the rest of the premiership !!!!!!!!!!!

Though we should have bought Torres and Luiz in the summer to replace the limited

squad in the summer sales,

Roman is clued up and Carlo is taking us for a ride !

Star, I think you overrate Jose, and you're not alone in that. Most CFC fans would jump with joy at the thought of him coming back and rightly so. It's impossible to forget the joy of winning big trophies every season after decades of struggling.

However, Jose was in a near perfect position to do what he did. He had a better team at his disposal(the best in Chelsea history, both in terms of individual talent and squad depth) and inferior competition( MU circa 2004-07, Arsenal rebuilding, Liverpool struggling, etc). Mourinho didn't have to deal with City's riches and a new version of Spurs., etc.

Ancelotti was never given an opportunity to build his own team, bring "his" players. I have my doubts about him and at times his judgment stinks, but the man did win a double in his first season and has an impressive resume.

I just feel if we keep booting managers off every time we struggle it won't help anyone, least of all the club itself. The owner and the board need to trust the manager enough to allow him to mold the team into his own model. Give him the money and the players he wants and keep the faith. Ancelotti's not blameless in our current problems but they didn't start with his arrival and will not go away if we sack him.\

Roman has to stick with the man he was after all these years. In the long run, it will make us stronger. Enough with the revolving door circus, otherwise it'll never end.

Star, I think you overrate Jose, and you're not alone in that. Most CFC fans would jump with joy at the thought of him coming back and rightly so. It's impossible to forget the joy of winning big trophies every season after decades of struggling.

However, Jose was in a near perfect position to do what he did. He had a better team at his disposal(the best in Chelsea history, both in terms of individual talent and squad depth) and inferior competition( MU circa 2004-07, Arsenal rebuilding, Liverpool struggling, etc). Mourinho didn't have to deal with City's riches and a new version of Spurs., etc.

Ancelotti was never given an opportunity to build his own team, bring "his" players. I have my doubts about him and at times his judgment stinks, but the man did win a double in his first season and has an impressive resume.

I just feel if we keep booting managers off every time we struggle it won't help anyone, least of all the club itself. The owner and the board need to trust the manager enough to allow him to mold the team into his own model. Give him the money and the players he wants and keep the faith. Ancelotti's not blameless in our current problems but they didn't start with his arrival and will not go away if we sack him.\

Roman has to stick with the man he was after all these years. In the long run, it will make us stronger. Enough with the revolving door circus, otherwise it'll never end.

::clap2::

Sometimes you have to take the rough with the smooth, and there is no doubt we are going through a rough patch. I said to my mate before the game, even if we go out of the Cl, providing we get top 4, which looks a near cert given the remaining games that are left this will still be an okay season with ups and downs (mainly downs), but it's something that the players and manager will learn from and it will make us stronger as a club.

Barcelona, AC Milan and Man Utd (who I consider to be the best club sides over the last 20 years) never got to where they were by firing managers left, right and centre. Under Rijkaard, Barca didn't even make the top 2 at one stage (which is the equivalent of Rangers/Celtic not making 1st or 2nd or United not making top 4) and after a year of transition and changes (albeit managerial) look where they are now. United had years of struggle and although they benefited hugely from Sky and the creation of the Premier League have gone on to be the most successful club in the last 20 years. Even Liverpool were a piss poor side in the early 60s and went on to dominate the next two decades after a period of transition.

I hope that Chelsea can emulate these clubs in that way and just have patience. I'm more than happy sitting here getting top 4 if we can steadily progress.

The only manager's that should be sacked this season are Houllier and Wenger, all of whom have criminally underachieved given the squads at their exposal.

firstly it annoys me when people say we were lucky to win the title last season...any team that scores over a 100 goals and beats the other members of the so-called big four home and away - both feats for the first time in premier league history - deserves to finish top....

we were not perfect for sure and the failings against inter were shown again here...

namely we lack a world class creative player who can break a defence down...I don't blame carlo for keeping torres on...he had no choice with roman watching, but he is responsible for the lack of team spirit and his slowness in making subs when it was clear plan A wasn't working...

the tie isn't over...we can win at old trafford...but we have to play a hell of a lot better than we did tonight and carlo has to raise his game

The thing that really gets me upset with Carlo is his tactics. His formation has always been the diamond and I don't think Carlo does well with other formations. We just don't have the players for a diamond. Carlos teams have been successful with that creative midfielder at the tip.(Kaka carried his Milan teams.) Yes we were successful last year but what coach wouldn't be successful with the way our players were playing. And yes I do give some credit to Carlo for that bit if you remember he didn't change from the diamond formation quick enough. He should have done it much quicker last year. I give most of the credit to Lamps and Drogba who were playing like gods. Carlos inability to change tactics and gameplan showing this year.

The thing that really gets me upset with Carlo is his tactics. His formation has always been the diamond and I don't think Carlo does well with other formations. We just don't have the players for a diamond. Carlos teams have been successful with that creative midfielder at the tip.(Kaka carried his Milan teams.) Yes we were successful last year but what coach wouldn't be successful with the way our players were playing. And yes I do give some credit to Carlo for that bit if you remember he didn't change from the diamond formation quick enough. He should have done it much quicker last year. I give most of the credit to Lamps and Drogba who were playing like gods. Carlos inability to change tactics and gameplan showing this year.

Agree. He is guilty of sticking with his plans until its practically too late. Whether that be formation, tactics, sub choices or whatever else - if he learned to be more adaptable when his plan backfires that'd be an improvement. We may have won today if he had enforced the 433 and subs at half time when it was clear after the first half that fergie had cracked us. Once he made that change we looked more likely to score, only it was done way too late and I suspect he had the time for the change planned methodically, refusing to deviate from it.

Once again Jose's name brought up as though he would come in here and turn the club into world beaters again. Jose did a fantastic job at Chelsea but it is all too easy to remember the first 2 seasons and then conveniently forget the decline over the last year and a half he was here. Its interesting to read the suggestions that Jose would have done far better with Torres. That conveniently overlooks the fact that Jose had his own overpriced striker who hardly set the world alight (Sheva). And in a better team.

Personally I think Jose could probably sympathize with Carlo's predicament if anything. He has had to deal with very similar conditions to what Jose experienced the last year and a half he was here. A big star signing that looked to be more of the owner's choice than the manager. Then the manager having to find a spot for said player to justify the transfer fee. At the same time other areas of the squad cut back to balance the budget leading to a lack of balance. We've been here before and it ended very badly. Those who regret the day that Jose was shown the door would surely rather there is a different outcome this time? Anyway its not over yet. And I'm assuming those who have written us off were saying the same thing last year after we went out to Inter and looked ready to lose the title to United. It may not work out but at least get behind the team rather than give up. No wonder the atmosphere sounded so crap if so many fans give up hope that easily.

Calling for Carlo's head before the return leg is just plain silly, thankfully it happens only in the forum. Look at the team last night, we still have Cech, JT, Cole, Lampard, Essien, Drogba inherited from the Jose era, and I dare say apart from Cech and Cole, the rest are wose off than what they were 3 years ago. Is Ivanoic better than Carvalho in his hay days, Zhirkov better than Robben, Rameries better than Maka? We have an inferior team than we were back in the days. Would Jose do any better with this team? We will never know, doubt will be much better. Carlo has his limitations,but how many players were signed by Carlo? Maybe we can include Torress, Zhirkov and Rameries. One can argues he never has the players to play his game, instead he has to do with the left over from Jose, Grant and Scolari. On the other hand, Jose signed up a bunch of players as he took over Real (a squad that is already better than what we got), and he still complain about he has no strikers. Last night Jose can bring Kaka and Higuain off the bench, what Carlo has? Mikel and Malouda. Carlo is far from perfect, but he has his hands tied with the players he got. Jose, although has edges over Carlo in some areas, has a lot more resources to call on, and as a result making those tactical changes look God send. At the start of the season, we decided to cut down the cost, things went wrong and Roman decided to splash the cash, the new recurits did not make the immediate impact, and the manager was made to look like an idiot. Think logically, I do feel sorry for Carlo despite his mistakes.

Carlo's position will be reviewed at the end of the season, in the meantime we have no options but to support him.

The Russian finger should be pointed in 3 directions...first the players, their performances during the last two thirds of the season has been well below that of world class players, gone it seems is the passion and the will to win those 'big' games on a consistent basis. One could argue that the cause can be put down to injuries and age which you could argue is a big factor in this years performance. Although many of the players remain from last year it seems the desire to dig deep and the creativity has disappeared why? Players at this level do not all go into the crapper at the same time unless.......there is the WILKINS factor, can't talk about it because it's hush hush. Second, the finger should be pointed in the direction of the manager, he is accountable for the team selection and responsible for ensuring that the team is prepared both physically and mentality and of course tactically. Carlo IMO has seemingly made bad team selections against certain teams and poor substitutions, whether the player or the timing of the substitution but there again he gets $5 mill a year, won a few trophies over the years so we should respect that his knowledge of this 'beautiful game' is far greater than any of us watching from afar after all we are just fans who 'know it all' and have the answers for everything to win the quadruple just like we do on Playstation.

Like many others I have been a Carlo supporter but I am getting tired of hearing how well we played despite the loss or draw, when it is painfully obvious to the undeducated like ourselves that the team played like sh*te, with no passion and no direction against lesser opposition....the comments made by him are far to protective of his players shortcomings; come on Carlo be realistic and say your team played sh*te when they play like sh*te ,at least your being honest. 3rd Roman look at your finger its pointing right at you. I love his passion when in his seat and he is probably like it in business and I love the amount of money he has although I don't alwas agree with how you spend it. Roman has been ruthless when it comes to firing managers, why can't he be as ruthless when it comes to players underperforming? His apparent continual interference in the operation is part of the root cause of this woeful season..why does he interfere....because he is like us...he is a fan that believes he knows everything and can pick the team to win everything. All the evidence points to the WILKINS incident, I am sorry I just don't buy into coincidences, especially one like we have seen. Wilkins gets fired and the entire team goes south, not for a game or two but 2/3rds of the season. The goalscorers can't score, the midfielders can't create and while the defence has the best goals against in the league they have been fortunate to say the least. Conspiracy theory...you bet. Does anyone know what happened? If Carlo goes we will once again be on a merry go round of managers..who is next? We have had the very best in world football and that is still got good enough for the owner so where do we go from here? Let Carlo have one more year but get rid of the dead wood....and learn from this year.....PS he is gone for sure if we don't make the top 4.

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Star, this is a kneejerk-reaction and you know it.

The infamous "bad moment" is gone and we won both Manchester teams fair and square. We were better, Carlo was better. It is easy to shout out comments like "why did he play Malouda..." and so on. Try sitting on the bench and thinking who of our overpaid stars should I field..

Problem with yesterday's game is. ManU had their best player on the pitch and we didn't. I feared Rooney would score and our Luiz was sitting in the stands.

We could have easily drawn the game with the penalty we never had. Would you have written this then Star?

Overall bad game from us but I believe Carlo can get a champion performance out of the squad next tuesday. It is only halftime, you know.

whether he stays or not should dependent on the players if they feel they don't want to see his face anymore and that he is not doing enough to get them motivated and prepare them well, he will eventually go

but when the players know that they haven't performed any where near to what is expected out of them they should take a long hard look at themselves and stop this from being a trophy less season...but for how long will they keep under performing like this ? most of our senior stars haven't done anything remarkable at all neither Drogba, anelka,Lampard or essien. The job of the manager comes in here you need to get them motivated and get in their face and tell them straight away and make some bold choices and for god sake's go back to the 4-3-3 we are a rubbish 4-4-2. Ramires and lampard look way out of place and torres and drogba are anyway pulling to flanks to receive the ball so please go back to a 4-3-3 everyone know their role well in that formation

Carlo should show some balls by dropping Torres, Lampard or take some bold decisions that would show we are going all out for the win... its come to a state where looking at the game you keep shouting at carlo " do something!!! about this situation please " .

All his post match speeches are ridiculous he thinks sticking up for Torres or the team is going to keep up the squad harmony, that's a load of crap ...make one bold statement saying we were rubbish out there and we will do everything to win against man u in the return leg, i want my team to show more spirit and desire

its 70-30 for me 70 being the % i want carlo out :(

I thought Carlo should go a while ago but now I've more sympathy for the give it time. He needs to be given more freedom and a chance to strengthen the squad his way for next year. I don't think the players are against him now and, before Stoke, we were looking totally rejuvenated

I've always stuck by Ancelotti but i feel his time his up this season sadly but if he goes i think there should be a couple of players who need to follow him out the door in the summer. This season i feel there is a lack of desire to win games, a lack of desire to chase down the ball when things are not going our way.

Last night Drogba was a prime example and i felt he was the right one to make way, the first half he looked up for it then he just faded into the sulky Drogba looking to the ref for decisions and him trying to take on the world on his own which was incredibly frustrating.

Utd's goal was a prime example of something that we are not able to do at the moment, which was so easy to come by last season and that was a team goal. Alot of the forward players since Torres coming to the club have looked to be in it for themselves more than playing for the team.

I agree with Star. Although we had some great results last season, we stumbled accross the line. I like Carlo, much more than when he joined us, but have never really rated him & even if we do beat them we will get destroyed by Barcelona, whilst spends 70mins realising its going wrong.

I'm already looking foward to next season.

Carlo just isnt for the PL, hes a good manager no doubt but winning the double, then having the worst run in 15 years, thats not a fluke. Bring in a different manager in the summer and who knows what will happen

::ChELSeAFaN::

As I've mentioned many times before, I never wanted Ancelotti at Chelsea in the first place, I don't rate him and never have. I don't believe that Mourinho is the answer though, but there are a few decent managers out there who I believe could do a good job at the Bridge - so long as Abramovich stops interfering in team matters and transfers.

That's the problem, everyone is saying Carlo should go without ever contemplating who would replace him. Jose is unlikely to return due to the politics at Chelsea with Gourlay, Roman etc.

The bottom line is we are not as good as we think we are, I honestly don't think we are any better than Man Utd or even Arsenal.

Carlo's hands were basically chopped off with the releasing of Beletti, Ballack, Deco and J.Cole. It was nieve to assume that we would not need any back up after losing key players. I was happy to see Deco and J.Cole go, but i still to this day do not think we should have let Ballack go (or Beletti), for me he was one of the most underrated players we've had at this club in a while. Ramires is turning out to be a special player, as I thought he would be earlier in the season, but only now are we getting the best out of him.

We would never have lost at Eastlands and the Emirates in particular if we had a solid midfield. Lampard is past his best and IMO doesn't have the legs to play in CM midfield anymore and needs a more attacking role.

I still believe the diamond would have worked if Essien could return to the form we saw from him 2 or 3 years ago.

I just wish people would wake up and realise Carlo isn't primarily the reason we are in the predicament we are in.

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