Davey Baby Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Having watched the entire game again on Sky Sports, here are a few things I didn't quite digest first time round .. 1. At the tossing of the coin prior to kick-off, Lamps is asked by the ref whether he wants heads or tails. Lamps says something which clearly confuses the ref, then breaks into a smile, leading to laughter between he, the ref and the opposite captain, Lahm. This moment shows how relaxed Lamps is, sending a clear message to Lahm, which I think takes Lahm by surprise. Considering the importance of the occassion, an excellent moment. Those that saw Sky Sports preview the previous night will have noticed Lampard joking with Geoff Shreeves, the Sky interviewer, about Shreeves accreditation photograph that was hanging round his neck. Lampard gave an excellent display on Saturday, he was confident, composed and he seemed very comfortable in his role, not just as a holding midfielder but also as captain. Considering how much the game meant to him personally, I'm amazed at his frame of mind, which is nowhere bettter exemplified than at the tossing of the coin. Watch it again. 2. The beach ball. You know what I'm talking about. Robben certainly does. Props to that man, woman or child. 3. The shoot-out. Neuer picks up the ball before every kick and throws it to the oncoming player, meaning every Chelsea player that has to take a kick has to carry the ball to the penalty spot, as opposed to the Bayern players, who have the ball waiting for them by the spot. This is clearly an attempt by Neuer to disadvantage the Chelsea players and I'm surprised the ref let it go, as Neuer was allowed to do it every time. It didn't work. We won. In case you missed it. 4. Torres prior to the shoot-out. Stressed out beyond belief. If ever there were proof he has problems with his head here it is. There are two separate occassions in which he looks unhappy with Robbie, and his face prior to the shoot-out is in marked contrast to everyone else's. Thank god he didn't have to take a kick. The more I see it the more it beggars belief. He gets himself in a tizz and is the only one to show any dissatisfaction. Wrong time wrong place I'm afraid, as it's unhelpful in the extreme, both to himself and his teammates, and his comments after the game, in which he expresses his disaffection, again are poorly timed, in my opinion, and rather systematic of his mentality. Strange because he had a good game. 5. Mikel. What the hell happened there? He looks like a bloody footballer. 6. Drogba's foul on Ribery, leading to their spot-kick, did us a massive favour. Funny how football works. It was the moment that changed the game, in our favour, believe it or not. Firstly, there is a delay of over 2 minutes before the kick is taken, which is clearly unhelpful to Robben. Ribery eventually has to go off, to be substituted by Olic. Now they are without one of their best players. Robben misses, meaning he loses confidence for the rest of the game, and also meaning he bottles taking a spot-kick in the shoot-out. Without Robben and Ribery taking spot-kicks, they opt for Ribery's sub, Olic, who misses, handing us the initiative. All in all a job well done, Drogba. 7. Ashley's spot-kick. F**king hell. I love Ashley Cole. Now I can see what Cheryl saw in him .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WV2 Blue Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Great post Davey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Spot on......... Just spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I haven't seen the Torres thing before the shootout, but if you believe the papers and such apparently he said he wanted to take one but RDM didn't let him, which may explain why he looked annoyed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloseyebrow Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Having watched the game in full once since watching live , right through to winning it and then other bits and pieces what I missed was that we didn't get battered by Munich. I mean when watching on Saturday night I was sure we got a good lesson. 2nd time around it wasn't half as bad as I thought and also noticed we had a lot more of the ball than I seen on Saturday. I clocked the Neuer thing , but not the Torres thing til afterwards , but hey didn't care really beer had taken hold. A couple of reasons for this , obviously less tense and able to enjoy the game , I wasn't clouded by Heineken. Am I alone in this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 One thing in Torres' favour though was they way he celebrated at the end. He ran miles to join Drogba and celebrate with him. Great post though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishman Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Another thing I noticed in the shoot out was Schweinsteiger's stuttering run-up trying to make Cech commit. But Cech stood his ground and that threw Schweinsteiger just enough to botch his kick. Was it ever confirmed if Cech got a touch to that last one? I never saw a replay of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moos Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Disagree about the beach ball. I think it's wrong to throw things onto the pitch so as to distract a player. I am all for booing and such to mess with players, but to throw stuff is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 A clear touch Englishman. You see the ball edge toward the post. Without the touch it would have gone in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozztheboss Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I have to say Davey, after working as a sports psychologist for almost 20 years, you certainly have ability beyond everything I've ever seen in terms of reading people. Agree with the rest, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseablueboy Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Great post and i totally agree with most of it.... But.. We get it.. You have a problem with Torres, but it's bordering on the obsessive.. Jeez Davey give the fella a break ? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samdwich Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I don't think the Neuer thing was anything devious, it was him, in effect, throwing down the gauntlet to the players and being all like "bring it". Keepers are allowed to try to put the PK takers off, and we've all praised Mikel for putting Robben off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samdwich Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Disagree about the beach ball. I think it's wrong to throw things onto the pitch so as to distract a player. I am all for booing and such to mess with players, but to throw stuff is not right. Also agree with this. Plus it could have backfired, anyone remember Liverpool? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishman Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 A clear touch Englishman. You see the ball edge toward the post. Without the touch it would have gone in. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Boy Brandinho Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Gamesmanship is part of football. If Neuer wants to play head games, it's up to our players to be mentally strong enough to ignore it. I see nothing wrong with what he did. He's always been an extremely demonstrative keeper and it seems to work for him most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 (edited) The beachball incident happened a micro split second after the penalty had been kicked, it didnt even reach the pitch. Edited May 25, 2012 by coco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facial26 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 About Nuer throwing the ball, cech tried to do it and the ref stopped him! Ah well, Cech came out on top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 A couple of more things. Neuer would bounce up and down before each spot kick would be taken, and at least once the referee told him to cut it out. I guess you have to be still before the PK is taken if you are the goalkeeper. It might have messed him up, but then again our PKs were pretty unstoppable, so it probably did not change much in what eventually occurred. Lamps PK was really not that well taken, as it was up the middle for the most part. However, Lamps hit it hard and high, and so that was what got it past Neuer. Lamps seemed to have won the first coin toss, which to me appeared to be the one where you get to choose the side to take the PKs. If that is correct, then why did Lamps choose the Bayern end? The second coin toss was won by Lahm, and he chose, correctly, to shoot last in the PKs. Drogs foul on Ribery that resulted in Bayern's penalty was abysmal defence on his part, no other way to say it. We were lucky that it turned out the way it did, but it could have killed us. The momentum was with us at that point, so I disagree that it turned the tables our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 93 Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 A couple of more things. Neuer would bounce up and down before each spot kick would be taken, and at least once the referee told him to cut it out. I guess you have to be still before the PK is taken if you are the goalkeeper. It might have messed him up, but then again our PKs were pretty unstoppable, so it probably did not change much in what eventually occurred. Lamps PK was really not that well taken, as it was up the middle for the most part. However, Lamps hit it hard and high, and so that was what got it past Neuer. Lamps seemed to have won the first coin toss, which to me appeared to be the one where you get to choose the side to take the PKs. If that is correct, then why did Lamps choose the Bayern end? The second coin toss was won by Lahm, and he chose, correctly, to shoot last in the PKs. Drogs foul on Ribery that resulted in Bayern's penalty was abysmal defence on his part, no other way to say it. We were lucky that it turned out the way it did, but it could have killed us. The momentum was with us at that point, so I disagree that it turned the tables our way. They werent tossing to get the option. Radio 5 live said it Head for Bayern end tails for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Thanks for clarifying that for me, Mike93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Baby Posted May 25, 2012 Author Share Posted May 25, 2012 A clear touch Englishman. You see the ball edge toward the post. Without the touch it would have gone in. Not only that but Cech made a point of mentioning it in the post-match interview, stating he had faced 6 penalties, guessed right 6 times, and saved 3. Another thing I noticed, Cech moves about a fair bit before each kick is taken, except for the one taken by Neuer, at which point he remains still. Last thing, the affection shown for each other by Kalou and Mikel in their post-match interview is genuinely touching. Similar ages, both African and both came to the club at the same time. They gaze at each other lovingly, but then, we were all feeling a bit giddy at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 I remember reading that the reason Torres looked a bit miffed was that he put himself forward to take a penalty, he wanted to take one, he wanted to contribute, but RDM didn't put him in the first 5, or even first 6 after Gary said he was after Drogs had he missed. If that's true, fair play to Nando for showing bottle in wanting to take one, something that can't be said for Anelka in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moos Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 Lamps PK was really not that well taken, as it was up the middle for the most part. However, Lamps hit it hard and high, and so that was what got it past Neuer. I disagree. It was well taken. What do keepers do on penalties? They throw themselves to either side. Maybe not every time, but probably 99% of the time. If you shoot it low down the middle, there's a chance that the keepers feet are there to make the save, but get it high and you will most likely score. I've heard a few keepers say that and in on a football show they once talked about it and all of them said "why does players almost never shoot it down the middle?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Boy Brandinho Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I disagree. It was well taken. What do keepers do on penalties? They throw themselves to either side. Maybe not every time, but probably 99% of the time. If you shoot it low down the middle, there's a chance that the keepers feet are there to make the save, but get it high and you will most likely score. I've heard a few keepers say that and in on a football show they once talked about it and all of them said "why does players almost never shoot it down the middle?". Agreed, it was a very well taken penalty by Lamps. As for why players rarely shoot down the middle, my only guess would be that since the kick needs to be high and powerful, they're afraid of overdoing it and hitting the bar or pulling a Beckham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedpensioner Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Agree that last week I thought we'd been battered for the whole game, but when I watched it back we played really well in the second half! Davey, give Torres a break, he had the hump because he wanted to take a penalty i.e he wanted to make a contribution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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