Is anyone watching this documenary on channel 5? Rodgers has just used a tactic that Ferguson used a while ago by holding up 3 envalopes and saying they contained 3 players names that he thinks will let him down this season. He didnt think it through though as there was a light behind him and he was in a dark room and you could see straight through the envalopes and there were no shadows inside meaning they were empty! woops...

Edited October 12, 201213 yr by ricky-hyde

He said the envelopes contained the names of players or staff.

My guess is that the first envelope has his name.

I was expecting the topic title to be followed by "must be depressing".

Still, wasn't far wrong.

I watched about 5 minutes of it while waiting for adverts on other channels to finish. That's about all I could take of Steven Gerrard's voice. What on earth happened in Liverpool centuries ago to evolve such a mucus-filled accent. In fact I don't want to know, some things are best left unknown I think.

Apparently the only person that needed subtitles was Carragher......he sounds like a radio being tuned in.

Liverpool are a sh*t club living off their history, in 10-15 years they will be even more irrelevant, just about holding onto a PL place if they havn't already been relegated!

'Being Liverpool' is probably the most depressing and miserable statement that anyone could possibly think of.

I watched about 5 minutes of it while waiting for adverts on other channels to finish. That's about all I could take of Steven Gerrard's voice. What on earth happened in Liverpool centuries ago to evolve such a mucus-filled accent. In fact I don't want to know, some things are best left unknown I think.

it has its roots in the irish accent, obviously being a port there have been a strong influx of irish in the past (and present), a lot of the time im not in liverpool people tend to think im irish as i my accents a bit more of a subtle scouse one.

Anyways about the show, it's kind of interesting to see Rodgers discussing tactics but its a bit of a non-entity, not much juicy stuff in it really and at times it's a little bit too biased, suppose it had to be though. Also Brenden Rodgers is fine in bite-size quotes but when you get it all the time he starts to seem a bit David Brent-ish, he's got a picture of himself hung up in his own house FFS!

Obsessed.

have you seen how much he strokes players faces too? creepy as f**k

have you seen how much he strokes players faces too? creepy as f**k

Its very weird, hes very Brentish as you say. I think he still looks like a Tesco`s shelf stacker who somehow gets a job as store manager....

Here in the states this was being marketed as new, innovative and groundbreaking. In the past few years, many American networks have done similar sports "fly on the wall" documentaries about hockey and Am Football to great critical acclaim.

Have to say, all bias aside, "Being Liverpool" is a sad, pale imitation of these other docs. Its like watching a stock movie preview for some bad Tom Cruise action flick. Alot of slow motion sequences of players in training, accompanied by dramatic music and Rodgers/Ayre/the club doctor staring out the window trying to look like Jack Kennedy. Its not insightful, it just seems like propaganda. Which is of course, perfect for Liverpool.

Particularly cringeworthy parts:

-The aforementioned envelope sequence.

-Rodgers running around training, clapping and saying "right, young players, dont be lazy." Looked incredibly phony and sounded impersonal.

-Rodgers trying to eulogize Lucas Levia's return for preseason. Thought he was gonna cry when he talked about how they should all honor Lucas.

-That "pub poet laureate" who recites a poem about Anfield before every show. Americans are sentimental about old sports grounds, but not to the point of mysticism. Fond memory is one thing, but that sort of superstition is generally laughed at.

-The sequence where Rodgers exchanged a jersey with the Boston Red Sox manager. The appreciation and politeness of the two teams was forced, but the awkwardness was there for all to see. Clearly neither set of players or the managers had taken the time to learn anything about their opposite number before showing up there. The only conversation between them was obvious and cumbersome.

Other than that, its not bad. Seeing squad players like Spearing in their homelife is kind of interesting. Gerrard's house looked like part of the set of THX1138.

Edited October 13, 201213 yr by TheWestwayWonder

How dare you mention that film in the same sentence as that sod.......

Its very weird, hes very Brentish as you say. I think he still looks like a Tesco`s shelf stacker who somehow gets a job as store manager....

To be fair, a Tesco's shelf stacker might be a better football manager than Rodgers.

Also Brenden Rodgers is fine in bite-size quotes but when you get it all the time he starts to seem a bit David Brent-ish, he's got a picture of himself hung up in his own house FFS!

Another cringeworthy moment I forgot. Brent is a great comparison, because Rodgers seems to be saying a lot while saying absolutely nothing of consequence, and at the same time, takes himself and this savior of Liverpool mantle very seriously.

Overall, its not a groundbreaking fly on the wall documentary. Its a docudrama full of hot air. A PR exercise to make Liverpool seem noble and likable, rather than the myopic, misguided mess they have become.

Other than that, its not bad. Seeing squad players like Spearing in their homelife is kind of interesting.

Was it something like this?

All seems a bit put on, it showed the dressing room after us losing to west brom and rodgers was saying sh*t about the pens not being pens (which they probably weren't but so what?) then saying that everyone will be against us this season, i would have liked him to have a go at the players a bit rather than stick with the whole "its not our fault if we lose" philosophy.

And dont get me started on that so called 'poet' - "i remember when i looked at the kop, at the right hand corner, in the top" - it's worse than the sh*tty poetry on those macdonalds adverts

To be fair, a Tesco's shelf stacker might be a better football manager than Rodgers.

Don't see it, in a few short months he has Liverpool playing and thinking completely differently about their football. He's a great coach (we gave him a great education btw) and it's a shame he's at Liverpool

Don't see it, in a few short months he has Liverpool playing and thinking completely differently about their football. He's a great coach (we gave him a great education btw) and it's a shame he's at Liverpool

yeah i agree, but we still have the same problems we did last season in that we dont have anyone that can score, suarez obviously can finish, but he's so inconsistant with it, he reminds me of torres in the fact that he's a better finisher when he doesnt have time to think. and borinis injured now, although he doesn't look like the answers to our problems. dont think brendens style will sort out our scoring problems, guess we just have to hope on a new good striker in january

dont think brendens style will sort out our scoring problems,

What would you advocate then, attack less and score more?

no, but we were quite attacking under kenny, made a lot of chances didnt convert any. i have no idea what the solution is besides getting in a prolific striker, which is obviously a lot easier said than done.

Don't see it, in a few short months he has Liverpool playing and thinking completely differently about their football. He's a great coach (we gave him a great education btw) and it's a shame he's at Liverpool

Not sure he`s a great coach, he has failed at 2 clubs, continued the great work already done by 2 coaches at Swansea and has Liverpool playing pretty much the same as they were last season, only defensively weaker. He has a long way to go to prove himself a great coach. I was meaning more that he looks a man who has risen well above his station far too quickly and is just saying the things he thinks he should.

Not sure he`s a great coach, he has failed at 2 clubs, continued the great work already done by 2 coaches at Swansea and has Liverpool playing pretty much the same as they were last season, only defensively weaker. He has a long way to go to prove himself a great coach. I was meaning more that he looks a man who has risen well above his station far too quickly and is just saying the things he thinks he should.

look better at retaining possession and passing, and slightly more composed in the final third, albeit without many clinical finishers. The defence is a bit worrying, the problem is brenden really makes the most of the space of the pitch, so on the attack the centre backs will almost be full backs, and the full-backs playing as wing-backs, this is all well and good for going forward but if we lose the ball you can see we panic a little bit because of the massive holes in defence, hopefully this is just something that will be sorted with time and the defenders will spot the danger early on and move back into position without much panic, also i think lucas would have worked very well in this system, dropping back to fill in the hole thats left there, gutted about his injury.

I didn't see the Liverpool documentary so can't comment on that. I actually do think Rodgers could go on to do a good job at Liverpool (maybe not a great job) however I very much doubt he will get the time required to do it. The squad still needs a lot of strenghtening if they are to be a regular top 6 club let alone top 4. Clearly they need more quality up front as Suarez isn't a centre forward and will not be able to carry the team's goal requirements and the options they have at the back are simply not good enough to cope with Rodgers preferred playing style.

Rodgers seems to have adopted the 'everyone is out to get us' mentality ridiculously early and I'm not sure that it necessarily the right course of aciton for him as I don't think he has the charisma and strength of personality to actually use it to create a seige mentality within the club the way the likes of Mourinho and Ferguson do.

I saw a bit of it the other night and couldn;t believe this club are letting cameras in on everything...I mean what a distraction for everyone and pretty embarassing too...whoever gave this the go-ahead should be fired