Time to give Klopp a call.

[maxstar]

Jose still the best man for the job. Laughable that somebody started this thread

[Droogba]

Stim, Scott no matter; I merely sought to highlight the importance of reasoned discussion.

Of more importance, the repeated 'chemical' reference, including in line with 'infidel' is, at best, inappropriate and at worst offensive. Sadly it's indicative of the stereotypical football fan who seemingly lacks intelligence and social awareness.

I'm sure associating me with Chemical Ali will give the forum a good laugh due to its ridiculous nature if nothing else.

Edited September 14, 2015 by Droogba

[maxstar]

When people resort to name calling usually means they can't back up their argument

[Kev56]

Something going on behind, a whole squad cannot all at once lose form, all become 'tired' and as a team become so disjointed and clueless. And Jose becoming more animated and wound up without that cheeky hidden little dig he was so clever at.

Maybe a big clear the air meeting is needed, but if this carries on for much longer we are up shi e creek.

Been going to Chelsea for over 40 years now so not a glory hunting tourist. In fact my fondest memories of Chelsea where when we were ' sh t'

[TheChelseaBlues]

At least answer his question.

All you are basing your opinions on is the performances on the field. One day when we get a new manager and we hit bad form, will you then say he has lost the dressing room too ?

It makes no sense that the players would stop playing for Mourinho. You started coming up with this 4 games into the season, that is 4 games after Mourinho won us the league title. Players like Diego Costa, Fabregas and Matic joined the club BECAUSE of Mourinho. Terry said he would throw himself under the bus for Mourinho, Ivanovic must be so happy we have Mourinho as a manager because if it wasn't for Mourinho, he would have been dropped long ago. Pedro praised Mourinho pretty much as soon as he joined.

The players praised Mourinho throughout last season, they aren't going to suddenly think he is a crap manager so soon after winning the league and league cup.

I asked the same thing long ago. No answer as of yet. Hes just a troll

[Peckham Blue]

Stim, Scott no matter; I merely sought to highlight the importance of reasoned discussion.

Of more importance, the repeated 'chemical' reference, including in line with 'infidel' is, at best, inappropriate and at worst offensive. Sadly it's indicative of the stereotypical football fan who seemingly lacks intelligence and social awareness.

I'm sure associating me with Chemical Ali will give the forum a good laugh due to its ridiculous nature if nothing else.

I for one ain't laughing, personally I think it's f**king embarrassing.

[PraetorianGuard]

Is this guy a troll?

[General]

lol

Edited September 14, 2015 by General

[Darogba]

Something going on behind, a whole squad cannot all at once lose form, all become 'tired' and as a team become so disjointed and clueless. And Jose becoming more animated and wound up without that cheeky hidden little dig he was so clever at.

Maybe a big clear the air meeting is needed, but if this carries on for much longer we are up shi e creek.

Been going to Chelsea for over 40 years now so not a glory hunting tourist. In fact my fondest memories of Chelsea where when we were ' sh t'

You must be a troll questioning whats going on behind the scenes. Everything is perfectly fine and this is just a blip.

[Barry Bridges]

We're now getting more and more news of turmoil behind the scenes and an inceasingly unhinged manager and people still think its just loss of form. These players have stopped playing for him.

I don't care who is in charge, if these players can't still play for the fans or the club that's paying them six figures a week then they are the problem.

[Droogba]

Is this guy a troll?

No, apparently he's a 'real' fan.

Whenever I see that in my head I see this, or this:

Edited September 14, 2015 by Droogba

[Darogba]

No, apparently he's a 'real' fan.

Whenever I see that in my head I see this, or this:

You think this thread is silly and I'm a troll yet you're practically camped inside this thread. Surely you've got better things to do with your time?

The whole point of a football forum is that some people will have opinions which are different from the norm so we can debate them, argue etc. Calling me a troll, wum etc isnt going to change my opinion that he's lost the dressing room and if he's not prepared to win the players back then klopp should be brought in. So go ahead and post your silly little pictures and keep refreshing this thread because I know you're very interested in this topic. Which is a compliment by the way.

If I saw a topic I found stupid I won't even bother entering it let alone constantly post in it.

[TheChelseaBlues]

Trolls come on here and spout nonsense without any proof or reason. Which is exactly what you have done. Youre entitled to have a negative opinion but when you keep going on about it without a legitimate reason you are trolling everyone.

Multiple people have asked you to clarify your claim of Jose losing the players. Who has he lost? Whos leading the movement against Mourinho?

You're not a Chelsea fan. Ill continue to refer to you as a troll. Like you have done, Im not going to post any specifics or reasoning because thats how opinions seem to work in your head

Edited September 14, 2015 by TheChelseaBlues

[Darogba]

I don't need to prove anything. It's an opinion and not a fact. My opinion is that he has lost the dressing room based on the shocking performance by the players and they're not playing for him due to disagreements behind the scenes.

Now if you don't agree with that opinion then fine, but please don't call posters trolls and wums for expressing an opinion.

[Michael440]

I don't need to prove anything. It's an opinion and not a fact. My opinion is that he has lost the dressing room based on the shocking performance by the players and they're not playing for him due to disagreements behind the scenes.

Now if you don't agree with that opinion then fine, but please don't call posters trolls and wums for expressing an opinion.

Disagreement behind the scene? There is no prove to that, it's just our opinion which formed in your head because you can't come up with any other reason?

I don't see any indicators he lost the dressing room. Believe me, players would complain and it would leak to the media. It would be all over the news.

[PloKoon13]

I don't need to prove anything. It's an opinion and not a fact.

 

An opinion still needs to be backed up by evidence lest it be rendered invalid...

[TonyT1988]

In the defence of those saying 'mourinho out' and the like, and subsequently getting slaughtered by some - this is an open forum isn't it? So regardless of controversy, people should feel free to post their opinions without fear of being ganged !

That being said, I personally think the calls for Jose's head is absolutely ridiculous and it will stay that way regardless of what happens this season. Until you show me - and prove to me - that there is a better man out there for this club than Jose, that will never change.

Mourinho is a legend, and getting us out of this stutter to a top 2 / 3 (at worst) finish this season, and champions next season is all part of the dynasty he is creating every day.

[Darogba]

An opinion still needs to be backed up by evidence lest it be rendered invalid...

No it doesn't.

[timetowaste]

No it doesn't.

 

Yes it does, otherwise it's a guess.

[Darogba]

In the defence of those saying 'mourinho out' and the like, and subsequently getting slaughtered by some - this is an open forum isn't it? So regardless of controversy, people should feel free to post their opinions without fear of being ganged !

That being said, I personally think the calls for Jose's head is absolutely ridiculous and it will stay that way regardless of what happens this season. Until you show me - and prove to me - that there is a better man out there for this club than Jose, that will never change.

Mourinho is a legend, and getting us out of this stutter to a top 2 / 3 (at worst) finish this season, and champions next season is all part of the dynasty he is creating every day.

There's no denying that he's the best manager in the world and I'm a big fan but my opinion is that there's a massive rift behind the scenes which has nothing to do with football. It doesn't matter how good a manager you're, if the players are no longer playing for you then really what's the point? I've said it before that I hope I'm wrong and this is just a blip and the players are still behind him but I don't believe that's the case.

[TonyT1988]

Hand on heart, I honestly don't think there is any thing like that going on behind the scenes at all.

[PloKoon13]

No it doesn't.

 

Okay, here goes your standard argument:

 

Point A: Argument A, Evidence A

(rebuttal)

Point B: Argument B, Evidence B (inherently different from both Argument and Evidence A, lest they be the same argument, or, if you prefer, interpretation. However a different interpretation from a same set of evidence must nonetheless be backed up by an ARGUMENT)

 

 

So... what's your argument? Or are you unsatisfied with positing random statements without any backing or evidence whatsoever?

[Darogba]

Hand on heart, I honestly don't think there is any thing like that going on behind the scenes at all.

Well I hope you're right. All I want is for the team to get back on track, with or without Jose.

[CFCflynn]

the irony of wanting klopp is that he had an appauling start to last season and was bad up until february until dortmund sorted themselves out...

[TheChelseaBlues]

I don't need to prove anything. It's an opinion and not a fact. My opinion is that he has lost the dressing room based on the shocking performance by the players and they're not playing for him due to disagreements behind the scenes.

Now if you don't agree with that opinion then fine, but please don't call posters trolls and wums for expressing an opinion.

You dont have to prove it. Just list who you think isnt backing him because all the evidence points to the contrary. There are numerous quotes by players backing Jose. The d@mn captain of the team had said hed throw himself under a bus for him.

Why do you think its a mutiny responsible for our poor form and not any of the other logical reasons it could be?

This business about bringing in Klopp is just rubbish and looks like yourr grasping at straws