You are allowed to comment on the referees performance aslong as it's done in a certain fashion. And it's silly to suggest that you shouldn't punish those who do that in a much louder and different manner that implies that there is an agenda against the club. If Mourinho had stopped at "I think the referee had a poor performance", it would of been fine imo. Yet he decided to continue his ranting and diatribe against the referees, who were definetly not against us in that particular game. I don't buy into this whole deflecting from the teams poor performance suggestions, and believe that someone who is so keen to talk about the players' emotional control and character, should really make sure he has that sorted first himself.

I'm not even saying Jose shouldnt be punished more harshly as he went on a rant but Wenger still called the referee Naive which in itself is an insult. He should be charged also.

I'm not even saying Jose shouldnt be punished more harshly as he went on a rant but Wenger still called the referee Naive which in itself is an insult. He should be charged also.emi

Sorry but saying a ref was naive is not questioning their integrity which is what Jose did. Its whole different gravy.

Lets be honest if say Giroud had put in a 'performance' at the emirates like what Costa did at the bridge, everyone on hear would be up in arms about it. If Jose had then said the ref was simply naive & left it at that he would not have been charged.

If Wenger had said after the bridge game. The referee was anti Arse Its a different ballgame. No conspiracy theories.

Naive = lack of judgement and wisdom, or knowledge in a work setting.

A ref absolutely needs sound judgement skills and sound knowledge.

Naive = lack of judgement and wisdom, or knowledge in a work setting.

A ref absolutely needs sound judgement skills and sound knowledge.

Droogba i agree but you are still questioning their Judgement NOT their Integrity. A Refs judgement can & will be questioned all the time over decisions made on the park. Be it a penalty given or a sending off. Totally different 

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He also said the referee was weak, that is criticising the ref's character, not his judgement.

He also said the referee was weak, that is criticising the ref's character, not his judgement.

Yes but it is still not questioning his integrity. You can say I thought the ref was weak if say you feel he did not clamp down on things early enough. Quite a common complaint by managers in big european fixtures to be fair.

Although it is not a 'nice' thing to say, it does not warrant a charge. 

Does saying "the referee had a good game" while smirking, warrant a charge ?

Does saying "the referee had a good game" while smirking, warrant a charge ?

apparently so, more than saying a ref was weak and naïve, or shoving a fellow ref etc. Sarcasm is a serious issue.

Droogba i agree but you are still questioning their Judgement NOT their Integrity. A Refs judgement can & will be questioned all the time over decisions made on the park. Be it a penalty given or a sending off. Totally different

If I was in a job and I knew my judgement was off and it had been highlghted via comment within my field what would I do?

If I thought it untrue I'd pursue some sort of action, 'how dare you question my competency etc.'

If true, and if I had integrity, I would not do a job beyond me, or I'd seek a mentor or further training.

If my skill is questioned and I do nothing to counteract I'm accepting the comment.

This is football and it's much harder for a ref to address someone like Wenger, even harder than it is in the average workplace and that's hard enough, so Wenger should be automatically accountable.

Would I have been happy if my work boss said I was naive in my work? No. When a boss would I have publically referred to one of my team's work as naive? No.

Language, context, interesting stuff.

If I was in a job and I knew my judgement was off and it had been highlghted via comment within my field what would I do?

If I thought it untrue I'd pursue some sort of action, 'how dare you question my competency etc.'

If true, and if I had integrity, I would not do a job beyond me, or I'd seek a mentor or further training.

If my skill is questioned and I do nothing to counteract I'm accepting the comment.

This is football and it's much harder for a ref to address someone like Wenger, even harder than it is in the average workplace and that's hard enough, so Wenger should be automatically accountable.

Would I have been happy if my work boss said I was naive in my work? No. When a boss would I have publically referred to one of my team's work as naive? No.

Language, context, interesting stuff.

Fair Point again droogba. But you are talking about football not the common workplace. Forget the semantics & the ref was rather weak to be honest. if you take off the blue tinted spectacles, His & sorry Diegos actions ruined a game of football for the majority of the watching public. Ok it worked in Chelsea favour which everyone on here is   with. However sometimes you also maybe have to see the bigger picture & how the rest of the people views it.

Big game, Massive world audience. Do you honestly thing DCs actions were acceptable & would you say he should have stayed on the field if neutral? Cut the bull The ref was pretty naive, it just worked out well for us.

what you have to ask your selves is, would jose of been charged if he had made the same remarks that wenger did?

Look maybe im old school. I believe you play hard but play fair like JT does.

DCs actions might have helped get 3 points against the Arse.

But has his subsequent ban cost us?

what you have to ask your selves is, would jose of been charged if he had made the same remarks that wenger did?

Jose went far further than wenger did. I would say no because a refs integrity had not been questioned.

But conspiracy theorists maybe would say otherwise? We will never know. If in the future  jose describes an official as weak & naive. nothing more & gets charged. We can moan. Believe me i think if that happened the club would make a case against the FA & rightly so!

I used to think fergie got a soft ride with the FA?

I honestly dont know if that was the case but feel sometimes with emotion Jose crosses the line.

Perhaps wenger has set the template & Jose needs to stay within it. Lets be honest Wengers rants are more measured than Joses. Different Characters. Jose by his very nature is always more liable to overstep the mark.

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Blink = the voice of reason and common sense!

Look maybe im old school. I believe you play hard but play fair like JT does.

DCs actions might have helped get 3 points against the Arse.

But has his subsequent ban cost us?

I think you might be right there

Look maybe im old school. I believe you play hard but play fair like JT does.

DCs actions might have helped get 3 points against the Arse.

But has his subsequent ban cost us?

In fairness jt got himself sent of equally as stupidly in a champions league semi which could have been really costly. But I do see your point.

The hypocrisy continues. Turns out that Ashley Cole was right after all about his assessment of the FA

The hypocrisy continues. Turns out that Ashley Cole was right after all about his assessment of the FA

f**king joke

Possibly because of the Costa retrospective Ban.  They'll have some formula that says his ban was the worst of the game and therefore his Club should be fined the most

I think it is down to what Jose said & specifically how he said it? He basically inferred that referees had an Anti Chelsea bias.

You CANNOT say that. 

 

 

Of course you are right, but that does'nt explain why Wenger was not charged by the FA for the assault last season. You can bet your last coat button that if Jose did the shoving........

We should send the fine in small loose change

We should send the fine in small loose change

 

after dunking the coins in the teams spit bucket.

problem is out side of chelsea, chelsea are not a liked club, from rival fans, to the neutrals all the way up (down) to the FA

We should send the fine in small loose change

 

Did you know that coins have a limit on their legal tender? 

 

£2 - for any amount 

£1 - for any amount 

50p - for any amount not exceeding £10 

20p - for any amount not exceeding £10 

10p - for any amount not exceeding £5 

5p - for any amount not exceeding £5 

2p - for any amount not exceeding 20p 

1p - for any amount not exceeding 20p

 

http://www.royalmint.com/help/help/legal-tender-amounts

 

There was the story of the young goalkeeper on loan from Liverpool to a lower league club who paid his £50 fine for being late in pennies and the BBC included this at the bottom of the article. 

 

I wasn't aware that you could only pay up to certain amounts with coins before. 

We should send the fine in small loose change

Oh can you IMAGINE? We'd probably be fined for that too!