His antics suggests a man who is fed up and wants out. The players, despite their public words of loyalty want him gone too. Obviously he won't just quit because that would mean giving up close to £30m in fees so he'll continue to make a nuisance of himself until his position is untenable and the club will have no choice. Meanwhile it's the club and the fans who continue to suffer.
This is not going to get any better anytime soon but worse. Sack him, pay him his money and let's move on.

Why do you think your opinion is so much better than everyone elses that it requires its own thread?

His antics suggests a man who is fed up and wants out. The players, despite their public words of loyalty want him gone too. Obviously he won't just quit because that would mean giving up close to £30m in fees so he'll continue to make a nuisance of himself until his position is untenable and the club will have no choice. Meanwhile it's the club and the fans who continue to suffer.

This is not going to get any better anytime soon but worse. Sack him, pay him his money and let's move on.

 

Are you Jose in disguise?

Yeah, great idea. Let's sack our best ever manager just because we're having a bad run. And who do you think we will get at this stage of the season? Please enlighten me.

I can't believe anyone thinks Jose would not be doing his best to get us back on track, all the theories about him wanting out, playing favourites, falling out with players etc etc are just theories.

 

The man has an impressive career, he is a winner and is a very proud man (hence the way he is reacting a bad run of results) and he certainly won't want a failure at a club he returned to because he claimed that it was more than a job, that he was also a supporter...he doesn't need the pay off money, he is already a very rich man, I'm certain he would rather earn more winning things here and likely setting himself up for a bigger pay packet or a national managers position in his next job than having people look at him as a failed Chelsea manager seeking work.

 

I don't understand why people pretend to know his motives or thoughts and don't just put themselves in his position for a minute, a top manager back in a job that he wanted to be back in, another title under his belt and 10 games in to an epl season as champions he finds things have got difficult, does a proven winner roll over and give up? seriously? he's pulling his hair out trying to get the boys back to some form and there have been signs that we might just be doing that, the other teams arr not going to roll over for us, they are all improving and will have a bit more confidence because Jose and the lads are under pressure but that doesn't mean a man like Mourinho will bottle it and give up, the only person who might bottle it here is Roman and that will be to our clubs detriment and not because Jose wants a big pay off so he can sit at home with his pipe and slippers reading about his career ending with a massive failure.

Fully agree chippy, no way on earth a man like mourinho will accept defeat, let alone trying to lose games as some have said. Also its a real shame seeing people now question his past achievements, saying he got lucky with the players he had, wasn't that good anyway etc. By all means question his current efforts but to try and disparage his incredible trophy haul is just embarrassing.

Boring

Can you not just put this in one of the other several Jose threads we have

Another Jose thread great

Should I make a similar post but change "Mourinho" to "the players"?  

 

If they wont play their heart out, I'd rather them gone and Mourinho given the proceeds to rebuild.  Mourinho has shown he can massively change a team and win, these players have not shown they can win without Mourinho.... because they have simply failed to do so, or even look like doing so, until Mourinho came back.  

 

If Mourinho has lost the dressing room, then sell it and buy a new one.  Thats far more likely to bring success and history has shown that..... and it was a far better squad the first time round and they still should of won way more than they did after Mourinho left.  If Mourinho leaves this squad, it will massively be changed or it will fail to win trophies regardless of who is in charge.  I'll put money up on that with anyone who wishes.

 

It really is that simple.

I thought you'd already been banned.

It's amazing how these fans see Jose. One moment, they are cheering "Jose is the best manager in the world" when we win trophies. And now, they are calling for his head just because we have a dip in form since the start of the season. That's an epitome for being a Plastic, as opposition fans love calling us.

 

Jose wants to be sacked? Dear me, how do you even know this? Are you him in disguise? Those talks about him ruining the club, losing on purpose, proving a point to the board are largely conjectures and typical media bollocks. Why would he, arguably the best manager now, risk a career downfall and a big black mark on his reputation by getting that big money severance package? Obviously, he doesn't need the money, he has already earned enough after being successful for more than a decade!

 

Every successful clubs have their own period of difficulties and troubles, Fergie had it, Loew had it, hell even Wenger had it. As the old saying goes "Failure is the mother of success", if we continue to rest on our laurels and not experience these difficulties times, then we'll never be able to improve ourselves. I'm certain Jose and the lads are spending hours trying to figure a way or solutions to cope with the discussed problems. In fact, there were already signs of improvement in the Villa and Kiev games.  Our defence was more organised and compact and our holding midfield was doing a good job shielding the back four. Perhaps the attack may need more readjustments, I suppose. But the point is that there are improvements made in our overall performance regardless of it being small or easily forgettable.

 

Jose is a serial winner, his medals and records prove this. You tell me, a proven winner would just surrender and have to resort to subversive methods to get himself fired? Show some faith in our manager, show some patience for our team and please show some effort to see things in a different perspective in such sensitive topics. Of course, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and it'll look like a no-brainer to fire an under-performing manager. However, I would like you think about the impact this would have in the club's future. If we can't even give Jose a chance to start a comeback, which I believe he still can, then who in this world would want to join us?

 

At the end of the day, I'm just a nobody. But I honestly hope that Roman won't make the same mistake again.

Jose doesn't want to be sacked and we don't want him to go ... of course not ...

But he seems hellbent on running the same 11 players into the ground and pressing the self destruct button ...

It's not want anyone of us wants to see but this can't continue indefinitely ...

Exactly, who would we get? If Jose gets sacked it'll frighten decent managers off the job. We'll get mediocre managers and then in a few years time we'll be crying for Jose to come back. Get behind the team!

Should I make a similar post but change "Mourinho" to "the players"?

If they wont play their heart out, I'd rather them gone and Mourinho given the proceeds to rebuild. Mourinho has shown he can massively change a team and win, these players have not shown they can win without Mourinho.... because they have simply failed to do so, or even look like doing so, until Mourinho came back.

If Mourinho has lost the dressing room, then sell it and buy a new one. Thats far more likely to bring success and history has shown that..... and it was a far better squad the first time round and they still should of won way more than they did after Mourinho left. If Mourinho leaves this squad, it will massively be changed or it will fail to win trophies regardless of who is in charge. I'll put money up on that with anyone who wishes.

It really is that simple.

The only thing is Bazza , if they aren't playing for him, don't play them. He should cut his losses now and play RLC , Baba , Ola Aina whoever else is going to die for the cause. People who don't want to should kindly f**k off from our club

I don't think there's any "lost the dressing room" about it, people talk as if these players are a group of easily hurt prepubescent teenagers that will down tools over the slightest fall out, they're on money that we can only dream about and I would expect most on here have put up with crap we didn't like from people when being paid good money to do so.

 

I know things might have irritated a few, the Eva thing could have had some of them whispering to each other that Jose acted like a dick...I thought he did myself but it hasn't stopped me wanting him as the manager of the team I support, some of them maybe haven't liked being called out for playing below par but if that makes them stop playing for the man how on earth did they ever become good players in the first place, were they the kids in the park that you tackled and won the ball off and they said "I want my ball back, I'm going home"?

 

The reasons for our poor start are likely a lot less tabloid friendly and more just form issues and a bad preseason catching up with us, that and some obvious need for additions that never arrived.

 

I'd wager even though I'm well happy with Begovic, that had Tibo not picked up his injury we'd have a few more points on the table and this previously unthinkable witch hunt of the manager wouldn't be happening.

Edited October 26, 201510 yr by Chippy

Roman deserves massive credit for having a calm head. Many of us here would have pulled the trigger way earlier. I know I would have...

Roman deserves massive credit for having a calm head. Many of us here would have pulled the trigger way earlier. I know I would have...

With all due respect i think "many of us" are effing morons. Who the hell would sack one of the world's elite managers after a few poor months? all the preaching from fans when he signed saying they hope he sees this as a long term thing, and yet those same people arent willing to take a bit of the rough with the smooth. and there's been a f**kload of 'smooth' under jose's leadership.

I am genuinely staggered how some people have turned on him. yes there are concerns, no-one is saying mourinho is blameless for our poor season, but you have got to give the guy a chance to rectify his mistakes

With all due respect i think "many of us" are effing morons. Who the hell would sack one of the world's elite managers after a few poor months? all the preaching from fans when he signed saying they hope he sees this as a long term thing, and yet those same people arent willing to take a bit of the rough with the smooth. and there's been a f**kload of 'smooth' under jose's leadership.

I am genuinely staggered how some people have turned on him. yes there are concerns, no-one is saying mourinho is blameless for our poor season, but you have got to give the guy a chance to rectify his mistakes

Tbh you're right mate. He deserves time to work. Many of us are just pissed at his attitude right now. If he calms down a bit and we get a few good results. I bet all will be forgiven.

Seems like the fans have got a little trigger happy after all these years of supporting our club.

Things are bad. Worse than we've had it in a long time but i don't want anyone other tha Mourinho overseeing our rise back up. and he will do it. He is capable,  he is one of, if not, the best manager in the world. and he LOVES this club. He wants to stay as long as possible and truth is he has nowhere to go, He has burned his bridges and i think he genuienly wants to stay. If he reallys wants to leave he would, there is no way he would throw matches trying to get sacked.

If he wants to stay like you all claim then he's doing a terrible job of convincing anyone.

The old saying goes..

 

"You don't know what you have until it's gone"

 

It will be relevant if we sack, Jose.

I'm sure the club will survive. Unless of course you think we were formed in 2005.

If he wants to stay like you all claim then he's doing a terrible job of convincing anyone.

I don’t believe Jose has behaved differently this season to any other, it’s just that a greater number of games have gone against us and his mood has darkened more often as a result. Indeed, there isn’t a manager in the game who wouldn’t have reacted in exactly the same way he has to some of the refereeing decisions we’ve been subjected to of late and to think otherwise [such as to suggest he wants out] is to behave like the hacks who hound him and ignores the present day reality of Premiership management - if you don’t show you’re passion for the club you don’t care/are resigned to your fate/have lost something (usually the dressing room)and are odds-on to be sacked in the morning. 

 

And be honest, how many Shed-Enders really want Jose to show the first signs of heading in this direction, perhaps with a gamut of contrition that could well start with a resigned shake of the head or a shrug of the shoulders, before moving swiftly on to a full-blown, press conference-called, public apology for all those unforgivable and ill-judged outbursts unfairly directed at referees. Then finally, giving the Media exactly what it has craved from the word go, the only [excusable] quote they’ll ever accept from his quivering lips ”As you all know, things have been difficult for me recently…” 

I don’t believe Jose has behaved differently this season to any other, it’s just that a greater number of games have gone against us and his mood has darkened more often as a result. Indeed, there isn’t a manager in the game who wouldn’t have reacted in exactly the same way he has to some of the refereeing decisions we’ve been subjected to of late and to think otherwise [such as to suggest he wants out] is to behave like the hacks who hound him and ignores the present day reality of Premiership management - if you don’t show you’re passion for the club you don’t care/are resigned to your fate/have lost something (usually the dressing room)and are odds-on to be sacked in the morning. 

 

And be honest, how many Shed-Enders really want Jose to show the first signs of heading in this direction, perhaps with a gamut of contrition that could well start with a resigned shake of the head or a shrug of the shoulders, before moving swiftly on to a full-blown, press conference-called, public apology for all those unforgivable and ill-judged outbursts unfairly directed at referees. Then finally, giving the Media exactly what it has craved from the word go, the only [excusable] quote they’ll ever accept from his quivering lips ”As you all know, things have been difficult for me recently…”

Good point.

 

I don’t believe Jose has behaved differently this season to any other, it’s just that a greater number of games have gone against us and his mood has darkened more often as a result. Indeed, there isn’t a manager in the game who wouldn’t have reacted in exactly the same way he has to some of the refereeing decisions we’ve been subjected to of late and to think otherwise [such as to suggest he wants out] is to behave like the hacks who hound him and ignores the present day reality of Premiership management - if you don’t show you’re passion for the club you don’t care/are resigned to your fate/have lost something (usually the dressing room)and are odds-on to be sacked in the morning. 

 

And be honest, how many Shed-Enders really want Jose to show the first signs of heading in this direction, perhaps with a gamut of contrition that could well start with a resigned shake of the head or a shrug of the shoulders, before moving swiftly on to a full-blown, press conference-called, public apology for all those unforgivable and ill-judged outbursts unfairly directed at referees. Then finally, giving the Media exactly what it has craved from the word go, the only [excusable] quote they’ll ever accept from his quivering lips ”As you all know, things have been difficult for me recently…” 

 

 

 

Totally disagree there Dorset. Sure, all coaches moan when decisions don't go their way but the majority appreciate that it's swings and roundabouts. Jose's gripe after the Southampton game when they should have had two penalties to our one was cringe-worthy.

 

The worst ever refereeing display we were on the end of has to be Overbro in the Barca semi. It was outrageous but I do recall how although Hiddink complained, he did so in a very calm and civilized fashion - given just how bad a refereeing performance it was. THAT is how I would like Mourinho to react.