6 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Well this where our fans are spoilt and have little understanding of how business transactions work. If Emanalo was as competant as you expect, we would've made several over the odds transfers including a 50m Stones which would have been bad business.

The pappy and hector signings are clutching at straws. So what? We signed to rubbish players who has NO IMPACT on our season. Every club for whatever reason signs duds. At least in this case they were cheap and merely no different to signing an u18 player who is loaned out and never seen again.

You can use that example of 2010 however our season didnt have to be as bad as it was. Our squad wasnt as bad as 10th place but Emanalo took most of the blame for that and Joses downfall. As I said calling him an individual, isn't cold imo. At least he had the guts to be the one to speak out to the media which clearly was the wrong move as he is hated so much.

Just go back to his thread and read posts from August with fans moaning how he hasn't  backed Conte and that Luiz and Alonso are poor signings. Anything  bad he does is highlighted but any good he does is ignored or tight lipped. That's why i think there is a specific agenda against him.

Well seeing as we signed Costa and Fabregas in a quick and timely manner shows that concluding key transfers well before deadline day is possible. In fact we've done it plenty of times in the Roman era and rival Premier League clubs have had not problems concluding the majority of their business early in transfer windows. I accept that it won't always be possible but it's become a trend that deals are now being done a lot closer to deadline day. There is nothing "spoilt" about wanting the club to be better both on and off the pitch, having aspirations of being the best we can be. 

I'm not sure how criticising bad signings is clutching at straws? You're saying signing rubbish players had "no impact" but surely their impact was that they wasn't good enough to have any? 

2010/11 season "our season didnt have to be as bad as it was"... Well no, that's exactly my point. A squad stripped of experience didn't perform as well as the previous year... Who knew! 

It's apparent that you feel Emenalo is above criticism so I'm not sure I'm even bothering to engage you with explaining my previous grievances with him have nothing to do with his nationality or skin colour. 

49 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Reading your posting history, you seem like the kind of person who definitely falls into that category.

Are you calling me a racist? Care to try and back this up with some proof.

Edited May 19, 20179 yr by dkw

15 minutes ago, dkw said:

Are you calling me a racist? Care to try and back this up with some proof.

You are an odd person with a backwards mentality.

31 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Well seeing as we signed Costa and Fabregas in a quick and timely manner shows that concluding key transfers well before deadline day is possible. In fact we've done it plenty of times in the Roman era and rival Premier League clubs have had not problems concluding the majority of their business early in transfer windows. I accept that it won't always be possible but it's become a trend that deals are now being done a lot closer to deadline day. There is nothing "spoilt" about wanting the club to be better both on and off the pitch, having aspirations of being the best we can be. 

I'm not sure how criticising bad signings is clutching at straws? You're saying signing rubbish players had "no impact" but surely their impact was that they wasn't good enough to have any? 

2010/11 season "our season didnt have to be as bad as it was"... Well no, that's exactly my point. A squad stripped of experience didn't perform as well as the previous year... Who knew! 

It's apparent that you feel Emenalo is above criticism so I'm not sure I'm even bothering to engage you with explaining my previous grievances with him have nothing to do with his nationality or skin colour. 

Well there we go. We signed Costa and Cesc very quickly (didn't see no praise for Emanalo on them deals), and were bad in others. That should tell you that sometimes, not everything is easy and you can't just go out and sign who the manager wants at the earliest opportunity because quite frankly, with so many factors involved, it is not always possible. 

What I mean by spoilt is that only one year after having an excellent window, fans are trying to organise protests and petitions to remove Emanalo from the club. That is far beyond mere criticism. It's more like a hate campaign as if he is an enemy towards the club and doesn't have our best interests in his day to day work.  

So please do not get me confused, implying that he is above critcism as his treatment has gone way beyond that.

Edited May 19, 20179 yr by KonaKai Blue

And to be completely honest, I do not really care for Emanalo. I don't have a high or too low opinion of him. I just think hes another member of the board who together have helped rebuild our club and sustain it as a great one on and off the pitch.

What I will not stand for is him being an obvious target through irrational judgement when things go wrong whilst nothing is said when things go right. Especially last season when the Jose fanboys would try to deflect all of Jose's problems onto Emanalo as if he caused it all. 

There seems to be no equality in that regard. 

11 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

You are an odd person with a backwards mentality.

So youre happy to just go around calling people racist with no proof at all. classy fella.

8 hours ago, didierforever said:

football is an emotional sport. Take out the fans' emotions and passion and what do we have left? 22 men kicking a ball around. To call Jose (our most successfull manager , for the next 3 seasons atleast) an "individual" was naive to say the least. I dont know if he was ridiculed before that. For me, that was the first time I ridiculed him. 

Even if he was ridiculed before that, none of it whatsoever had to do with him being nigerian/black/ what ever racist and xenophobic reasons have been put out. 

Perhaps he was not being naïve, perhaps he was told by the upper echelon, to read the script as was prepared, not to put his own spin on it.

We do not know what goes on, but I can imagine R A was pretty well fed up with the rubbish that was being spouted & behaviour of J M by then.

6 minutes ago, dkw said:

So youre happy to just go around calling people racist with no proof at all. classy fella.

First of all I'm not happy to think that some fans dislike a Nigerian man in a high position at the club.

But all these excuses about his football background are nonsense. No one knows the skills and knowledge  he possesses that lead Roman to select him. No one knows what he went through and how many interviews he had to get the job, so it's very strange to see people jump to conclusions as if he was just handed the role on a plate.

And since he has been at the club can anyone honestly say that the club have not thrived?

As for being classy, your tone and language in general on this forum is so far from that, so it's a bit rich coming from you. 

Edited May 19, 20179 yr by KonaKai Blue

1 hour ago, KonaKai Blue said:

Perez is more similar to Roman than he is to Emanalo. As i said its a poor comparison as both clubs are run differently but if you really have to compare then it is not Perez you should be comparing. 

The fact of the matter is Emamalo actually hasnt done a bad job nor have any of the board including Roman. Every club makes mistakes but the criticism Emanalo receives you would think hes an imposter taking Roman and the club for mugs just for his own financial gain. I don't care about those who don't take me seriously  as its those very people i am aiming my assumptions towards. 

I don't care about who you think falls into whatever category. Just stop foolishly calling fans racists/xenophobes for no reason. You can actually disagree with Emenalo's treatment without saying that, you know. Christ.

24 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

 so it's very strange to see people jump to conclusions as if he was just handed the role on a plate.

 

No, what is strange, and disgusting, is seeing someone like you jump to the conclusion that because someone on a forum has a bad word to say about a Nigerian man he is racist. 

1 minute ago, Barrettinator said:

I don't care about who you think falls into whatever category. Just stop foolishly calling fans racists/xenophobes for no reason. You can actually disagree with Emenalo's treatment without saying that, you know. Christ.

I have a reason.  It's my opinion that the dis contempt towards him in my view could be because he's Nigerian. You find it strange that I say that. Well I find it strange that fans have issued protests and petitions against him and still think he is some kind of parasite at the club.

Just now, KonaKai Blue said:

I have a reason.  It's my opinion that the dis contempt towards him in my view could be because he's Nigerian. You find it strange that I say that. Well I find it strange that fans have issued protests and petitions against him and still think he is some kind of parasite at the club.

You're an incredibly silly fella to say the least and utterly disrespectful. With the nonsense you're spouting, one would think you were an opposition fan. Did you also call Chelsea fans racist every time they called Kalou or Mikel crap? What a nonce. 

You are being ridiculous @KonaKai Blue.  There is nothing to suggest that the reason he gets criticised is because he is Nigerian/black and tbh it could be said that for you to think so is in fact almost racist in itself.  You have shown no proof whatsoever that anyone dislikes him for his nationality or colour yet keep on and on about it.  Are all the Arsenal fans who want Wenger out anti-French?

54 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

And to be completely honest, I do not really care for Emanalo. I don't have a high or too low opinion of him. I just think hes another member of the board who together have helped rebuild our club and sustain it as a great one on and off the pitch.

What I will not stand for is him being an obvious target through irrational judgement when things go wrong whilst nothing is said when things go right. Especially last season when the Jose fanboys would try to deflect all of Jose's problems onto Emanalo as if he caused it all. 

There seems to be no equality in that regard. 

If you did not care for Emenalo, you wouldn't be spending the last few hours defending him to the hilt.  I have yet to see any Football fan side with a technical director to such an extent.  One would believe that you are Emenalo himself or one of his lackeys posting on his behalf.  Just for the record, I detest the fellow for that individual remark and the shady way he wormed his way into his current position.  I would personally rejoice on the day he leaves the club. Now go ahead and label me a racist with a biasness against Africans.

It's funny how most of you are coming at me calling me disrespectful and then bring up examples of Wenger, Kalou and Mikel. All of whom have a direct influence with their clubs through either being stubborn or not performing on the pitch to the level they should. The former has been given years of patience and the fans have lost patience. To compare that to Emanalo is just laughable. This is why I keep bringing up the word spoilt.

I also laugh at the fact that some fans will call me an opposition fan as if it's their last throw of the dice. I'm defending a CFC official here, or is he not part of CFC now and still an enemy?

Still the name calling I'm receiving right now is nowhere near as much as Emanalo has recieved so I take it with a pinch of salt.

Edited May 19, 20179 yr by KonaKai Blue

6 minutes ago, lchk said:

If you did not care for Emenalo, you wouldn't be spending the last few hours defending him to the hilt.  I have yet to see any Football fan side with a technical director to such an extent.  One would believe that you are Emenalo himself or one of his lackeys posting on his behalf.  Just for the record, I detest the fellow for that individual remark and the shady way he wormed his way into his current position.  I would personally rejoice on the day he leaves the club. Now go ahead and label me a racist with a biasness against Africans.

I'm defending him because I want to see fairness and equality. Not an obvious hate campaign against an official who means no ill harm to the club. I have yet to see football fans have so much hate for a technical director who is part of a very successful era and at the same time not trying to take money out of the club or fleece the fans. 

3 hours ago, KonaKai Blue said:

I didnt say all. Just the ones who are clearly using him as a scapegoat. Just look how quiet the Emanalo out thread is, until we have a bad run of form. Then the xenophobes will come out again.

Seriously, enough of this nonsense. Emanalo's past, particularly his previous appointment as coach of an 11 year old girls "soccer" team is all too relevant, in that makes him an easy target. Nothing to do with either his race or his  nationality. Forgive me if I'm mistaken but it's you and you alone who raised the question of race. Well let me tell you now, the intermittent scapegoating of Michael Emanalo has nothing whatsoever to do with race.

When things go wrong, he takes a bit of stick, but nothing remotely reproaching the level of hostility shown towards Benitez or Peter Kenyon. While Kenyon was a creepy looking bald Manc,  Benitez was and still is, a Spaniard. Using your logic, the extreme antipathy towards him would have been based on his nationality, citing Chelsea fans as an inherently anti-Iberian fanbase. You could use the large amounts of disdain shown towards the massive failure that was Fernando Torres to back up your case, throwing in AVB for good measure. You would of course, be talking out of your arse, just as you in your persistent insistence in perceiving any level of racism towards Michael Emanolo.

Do us a favour, give it a rest. All you're doing here is needlessly annoying people.

 

31 minutes ago, Beerqueen said:

You are being ridiculous @KonaKai Blue.  There is nothing to suggest that the reason he gets criticised is because he is Nigerian/black and tbh it could be said that for you to think so is in fact almost racist in itself.  You have shown no proof whatsoever that anyone dislikes him for his nationality or colour yet keep on and on about it.  Are all the Arsenal fans who want Wenger out anti-French?

For the record I am fully English and I'm judging this from an impartial view. At board level Emanalo is the ONLY member I see that has so much hate directed at him. Not like the others deserve any hate as they are doing a tremendous job but the dis contempt towards Emanalo has gone too far. It's embarrassing. You think we have problems with him as our Technical Directior where we have signed the likes of Costa, Cesc, Hazard, KDB and Willian? Come off it. 

8 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

I'm defending him because I want to see fairness and equality. Not an obvious hate campaign against an official who means no ill harm to the club. I have yet to see football fans have so much hate for a technical director who is part of a very successful era and at the same time not trying to take money out of the club or fleece the fans. 

What you are posting smacks of a personal agenda and I highly doubt it has to do with fairness or equality.  Some well paid suit in a rich Football club has verbal and written barbs thrown at him by anonymous posters and you are standing on a high horse complaining about "woe is him"?  Lol!

2 minutes ago, Upsetter said:

Seriously, enough of this nonsense. Emanalo's past, particularly his previous appointment as coach of an 11 year old girls "soccer" team is all too relevant, in that makes him an easy target. Nothing to do with either his race or his  nationality. Forgive me if I'm mistaken but it's you and you alone who raised the question of race. Well let me tell you now, the intermittent scapegoating of Michael Emanalo has nothing whatsoever to do with race.

When things go wrong, he takes a bit of stick, but nothing remotely reproaching the level of hostility shown towards Benitez or Peter Kenyon. While Kenyon was a creepy looking bald Manc,  Benitez was and still is, a Spaniard. Using your logic, the extreme antipathy towards him would have been based on his nationality, citing Chelsea fans as an inherently anti-Iberian fanbase. You could use the large amounts of disdain shown towards the massive failure that was Fernando Torres to back up your case, throwing in AVB for good measure. You would of course, be talking out of your arse, just as you in your persistent insistence in perceiving any level of racism towards Michael Emanolo.

Do us a favour, give it a rest. All you're doing here is needlessly annoying people.

 

The continuous comments and inequality are needlessly annoying me. 

For the record, Peter Kenyon was NO WHERE NEAR as unpopular as Emanalo. If anything it was his Utd links that made him unpopular but many Chelsea fans were equally intrigued by having him on our board.

Although IMO we went over board with the Benitez hate, he has a history with our fierce rivals and disrespected us in his press conference. 

Yet Emanalo has only been selected by Roman and during the course of his tenure has signed some great talents that have helped the club win multiple titles and at the same time make massive profits in the transfer window. And yet you are wondering why I am so confused that a large portion of fans hate him?

Did I ever say you were any nationality or other?  Why is that relevant?

People have already told you that in the past Peter Kenyon got just as much stick but you choose to ignore this to pursue your blinkered, irrational view.

And by the way dis as a prefix is usually used to reverse the meaning of the word that follows - eg dishonest is not honest so by keep saying people have dis contempt for Emanalo you are actually saying they have respect for him.  I think you simply mean "contempt".

15 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

It's funny how most of you are coming at me calling me disrespectful and then bring up examples of Wenger, Kalou and Mikel. All of whom have a direct influence with their clubs through either being stubborn or not performing on the pitch to the level they should. The former has been given years of patience and the fans have lost patience. To compare that to Emanalo is just laughable. This is why I keep bringing up the word spoilt.

I also laugh at the fact that some fans will call me an opposition fan as if it's their last throw of the dice. I'm defending a CFC official here, or is he not part of CFC now and still an enemy?

Still the name calling I'm receiving right now is nowhere near as much as Emanalo has recieved so I take it with a pinch of salt.

You're complaining about us calling you "names" yet calling the Emenalo critics racists. Bit ironic, isn't it? I also love how you latched on to the Wenger bit and sidestepped the Kalou/Mikel bit. Because you know you're full of it. Mikel was made a scapegoat several times even when he was on the bench and wasn't playing. Did you call Chelsea fans racist then too? Or maybe you did in fact take part in that yourself. Absolute nonsense.

15 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

I'm defending him because I want to see fairness and equality. Not an obvious hate campaign against an official who means no ill harm to the club. I have yet to see football fans have so much hate for a technical director who is part of a very successful era and at the same time not trying to take money out of the club or fleece the fans. 

Hang on a minute, is he working for free then? No? Thought so.

Every member of CFC's staff who's being paid by the club can and will take their share of criticism from fans if we see fit. The day Marina starts botching transfer deals, I'm sure she'll get her fair share of it as well. Then again, maybe we'll have fans like you calling her critics sexist out of nowhere.

Just now, Barrettinator said:

You're complaining about us calling you "names" yet calling the Emenalo critics racists. Bit ironic, isn't it? I also love how you latched on to the Wenger bit and sidestepped the Kalou/Mikel bit. Because you know you're full of it. Mikel was made a scapegoat several times even when he was on the bench and wasn't playing. Did you call Chelsea fans racist then too? Or maybe you did in fact take part in that yourself. Absolute nonsense.

I'm not complaining about people calling me names. I'm just stating what it is and that I don't frankly care. 

I didn't sidestep the Kalou bit but let me elaborate on both.

Wenger has been at Arsenal for 20 years. Fans pay thousands of pounds to watch Arsenal and because of him, they have nothing to celebrate most seasons. I can see why they are fed up.

Kalou and Mikel were being paid thousands of pounds by Chelsea and when they didn't perform they were criticised. HOWEVER!!!!, they were also praised when they scored or put in a good performance and I never saw any petition or hate campaign against them or any of our players. 

We win the league and Luiz turns out to be a great signing yet there are still more comments complaining about Emanalo for signing Luiz in the first place.