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Ballack & Blu
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The Mail are pushing this too, I am not up on what awards older players get apart from player of the year.

Were they hoping that Jimmy gets an OBE or something like that?



He scored 114 goals in one season playing for the Youth Team. Wonder if got awarded Player of the Year?

A poster on here ( Old Git) was fortunate enough to witness his debut in which he scored a hatrick; there’s a shock. If memory serves me correct his recollection was that he had phenomenal acceleration and breezed past defenders like they weren’t there.

Ive read his book, and he attributes his success to a freakily clear head in front of goal. Everything seemed to be in slow motion. If your a goalscorer that is a seriously great attribute.

Good on you Greavesy. Better late than never with your recognition I hope.

Edit: When he broke into the first team, he used to get public transport to the game from Upminster, Essex

 

 

 

 

 

 

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    What I think it is, is that the winning world cup team were awarded MBE's, I think Jimmy was injured after qualifying and didn't play in the finals.

    So I guess they think he was short changed and was the outstanding forward of his generation as well as getting England to the finals so deserves recognition.

    In a similar vein I recall an older actor never won an Oscar for a specific film  yet a few years ago was awarded a lifetime achievement award, just forget who it was.

     

     

    Jimmy was before most of our times so I'm not surprised he hasn't got a thread on this forum.

    I just about have a vague memory of him playing for West Ham and Barnet but never saw him play. I started going to games in 1970 which is long before most on this forum.

    Despite this, as a kid,  I was very aware of how good he was. My Dad who did see him play always said he was the best he had ever seen. I checked out the stats in old programmes and you could always see he was a prolific goal scorer. Whenever there were old players on the TV they always said he was the best and how tragic it was that he missed the '66 world cup final.  In years gone by he did get the recognition he deserved from other players and this latest documentary is just a revisit to something the generation before knew only too well.

    Great to see him getting further recognition this many years after his career. I understand he is really unwell but hope he feels the love the whole footballing community has for him.

    On 20/02/2020 at 12:35, Andy North said:

    Jimmy was before most of our times so I'm not surprised he hasn't got a thread on this forum.

    Pretty much all of his work was before my time. He’s just a name I know, I’m told how brilliant he was etc. but this documentary is the first time I’ve ever really seen anything of him. 



    Remember as a kid in the 70's if any of us kids were banging in a goal or two in a match an adult would say its a young Jimmy Greaves! My dad said he saw Jimmy Greaves at the bridge but I'm not sure whether it was for us or Spurs, he did say Bridge was rammed with 60k, must of been  his imagination, we didn't have any fans before 2003 and certainly no history!!!!!!

    4 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

    Can remember him on Saint & Greavsie in the 80s ... good pundit.

    Will watch the video, and hope he gets his gong !

    Saint and Greavsie always good Saturday lunchtime viewing before I went off to play Saturday football, seem to remember Greavsie use to take piss out of Scottish keepers and had a thing about Hamilton Acidemicals. Ah the 80's, happy days



    On 19/02/2020 at 17:58, Ballack & Blu said:

    Cant believe their are no comments on this legend, especially from the older heads.

    Batshuyi more of a legend for me.

    And anyone else who never went to Tottenham.

    7 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

    You need to do some research first kid, you're proper wrong on all counts fella

    On the subject of research, I quite like the fact that Greavsie's first professional goal, on his Chelsea First Division debut as a 17-year old, was AGAINST Tottenham, and of course it was at Three Point Lane as well, although on this occasion the match finished as a 1-1 draw. 24th August 1957 apparently 🙂

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    11 hours ago, chi blue said:

    Saint and Greavsie always good Saturday lunchtime viewing before I went off to play Saturday football, seem to remember Greavsie use to take piss out of Scottish keepers and had a thing about Hamilton Acidemicals. Ah the 80's, happy days

    Was wondering why I couldn't remember that program well, then it came to me its because I was in the pub before KO.

    All I could remember was a team was mentioned by one of them and the pub would then drown out the commentary with songs from the terraces.

    About 1/3 through the documentary with Brian Moore and this made me chuckle:

       BM: Debut for Spurs away to Blackpool, Greaves scores a hattrick and Spurs win 5-2.

       BM: Jimmy you scored a hattrick on your debut and two were headers that was unusual.

       JG: Yes Brian that was unusual, I don't know what went wrong.

     

     



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    Greaves left Chelsea for Milan, when he was on a pittance, and Milan offered him ridiculous money, they didn't appreciate him at milan, and he quickly wanted back to london, Chelsea and spurs were notified, and Bill Nicholson paid the 99,999 milan wanted £100k, we wouldn't pay that, the rest is Spurs history

    On ‎18‎/‎02‎/‎2020 at 22:47, Ballack & Blu said:

    Greaves in all competitions for us 169 games, 132 Goals simply phenomenal

    Awesome record and he was just at the start of his career too,



    https://www.chelseafc.com/en/about-chelsea/history/former-players/jimmy-greaves

    With 132 goals in 169 games for Chelsea, Jimmy Greaves will probably never be surpassed as the most prolific goalscorer the club has ever seen.

    Greaves was signed as a junior in 1956 and the following year created a club record by scoring 114 goals in the youth team. It was inevitable that he would break through into the first team.

    That he did on the opening day of the 1957/58 campaign, scoring in a 1-1 draw at Tottenham at the age of 17. Over the next four years he kept on scoring; 22 in that first season, 37 the next, then 30, and finally 43.

    In all Greaves scored 13 hat-tricks for the club, including five in a game on three occasions and four another three times. His hat-trick against Manchester City in November 1960 included his 100th league goal. He was 20 years and 290 days old. This remains a league record.

    During this time though we did not win a trophy and the board decided to cash in on their prize asset. They arranged a transfer to Milan against the player's wishes and Greaves last game for Chelsea was the final game of the 1960/61 season. He was made captain for the day and inevitably stole the show scoring all our goals in a 4-3 win.

    After an unhappy year in Italy, Greaves wanted to return to Chelsea but the board did not want to get into a bidding war for the player and instead Jimmy signed for Tottenham where he continued to break records.

    7 hours ago, Ballack & Blu said:

    Greaves left Chelsea for Milan, when he was on a pittance, and Milan offered him ridiculous money, they didn't appreciate him at milan, and he quickly wanted back to london, Chelsea and spurs were notified, and Bill Nicholson paid the 99,999 milan wanted £100k, we wouldn't pay that, the rest is Spurs history

    How times have changed, now it’d be Spurs refusing to pay for a player and us swooping in. 



    On 21/02/2020 at 18:32, Sexyfootball said:

    This is good as well

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjs7AX3GXk

     

    Just finished that after the third attempt, didn't realise he ended up in a mental institution for 5 years due to alcoholism. Seems strange hearing him talk about that given the current crop of celebrities talking about mental health issues.

    Interesting hearing him talk about leaving Spurs, get a phone call saying they have Martin Peters at the club and would he go part-exchange to West Ham.............. you have an hour to decide.

    Mentions that after 9 years at Spurs he felt like he had been treated shabbily. 

    Says one of his biggest regrets then was not going to Derby and playing under Brian Clough who he thought  was and still did at the time of the interview, the real deal.

    Sometimes think he could have been a stand-up, he has a certain clever delivery,

    'Brian, after leaving the mental hospital I was on the bottom rung, it got really bad, I was selling insurance...............'

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