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Barely one game passes and it is time to start looking to the next.

Based on what we saw on Wednesday and then today (and presuming we stick with the 4-5-1 formation) there is definitely a case for Anelka starting ahead of Drogba on Tuesday however it is pretty safe to say that isn't going to happen.

Also I hope that Wednesday and then today convinced Grant that playing Essien at right back should only be done in emergencies. Potentially a case for Makelele being left out on Wednesday as well.

Having said all of that we shouldn't let the result today against City hide the fact that we were desperately poor in the first half and could easily have conceded one or two goals.

Given all of this, the team I would personally choose on Tuesday (assuming a 4-5-1) would be

..........................Cech (if fit).........................

Ferreira..............Carvalho...........JT...........Bridge

..........................Essien..........................

..................Lamps.............Ballack..............

Joe.....................................................Kalou

............................Anelka.........................

However what I expect to see is

..........................Cudicini.........................

Essien.............Carvalho...........JT...........Bridge

..........................Maka.........................

..................Lamps.............Ballack..............

Joe.....................................................Kalou

............................Drogba.........................

One thing that should be carved on Grant's head is 'don't pick Malouda' I would rather see Bridge pushed up to the left side of midfield than Malouda playing!

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Loz

I'm going to watch match of the day before I comment on how we are playing but I have to say I do like your first team and have been wanting to see Essien where we usually have Makalele or Mikel for a while,

I would prefer Anelka anyway as I think his movement gives us more link up play and the midfielders (Frank) a better chance of finding the space to get in and shoot.

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Grant should throw caution to the wind, were hanging on with a chance of winning the 2 biggest club trophies in Europe, but only by our fingernails.

He needs to get radical and show us this "new beautiful football".

Go for it with a 3-4-3 formation and scare the sh*t out of the Turks.

It's radical, but easily changed to 4-3-3 with 1 substitution (Alex for Bridge LB, Essien to RB)

-----------Cech/Carlo-----------

-----Carvalho--Terry--Alex------

Essien--Ballack--Lampard--J.Cole

-------------Kalou--------------

-------Drogba----Anelka--------

Subs: Goalie,A.Cole,Bridge,Mikel,Maka,SWP,Sheva.

Imo we need to score 3 goals in 90 mins, and the players should go onto the pitch believing this.

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I think it is crazy to leave Drogba out. Anelka on his own isn't going to get a lot of goals. That lone role doesn't suit him. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to play both of them.

My preference is for a midfield diamond with Joe at the tip. Some in the City thread said it is too defensive but I don't agree. Provided the full backs get forward we will have enough width.

So I'd go with:

----------Cech

Belletti----JT----Riccy------Bridge

----------Mikel

---Lamps---------Ballack

----------Joey

----Anelka------Drogba

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I think it is crazy to leave Drogba out. Anelka on his own isn't going to get a lot of goals. That lone role doesn't suit him. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to play both of them.

My preference is for a midfield diamond with Joe at the tip. Some in the City thread said it is too defensive but I don't agree. Provided the full backs get forward we will have enough width.

So I'd go with:

----------Cech

Belletti----JT----Riccy------Bridge

----------Mikel

---Lamps---------Ballack

----------Joey

----Anelka------Drogba

Indeed i would settle for that 11, if the full backs stay forward.

Thought you'd like that formation Mod. 169.gif

We all know were lucky to be where we are in the league and in Europe after the season we have had with injuries and sh*t poor form, i would even go so far as to say that we do not deserve to win anything.

Avram has the chance to turn the season round in the last 9 games.

Possible games are a tough trip to Everton 72 hours after our away game at Wigan.

A resurgent Newcastle away.

Man utd (maybe twice) or could be Barca, or either of Liverpool or Arsenal.

Tough games to win the way were playing at the moment.

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We all know were lucky to be where we are in the league

Not me. You can be lucky in a cup competition but the league doesn't lie. We are where we are because we deserve to be there. Yes there are games where a bit of good fortune has allowed us to get the result that transpired but Man Utd and Arsenal have also received good fortune on occasions over the season.

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I would give Essien his normal midfield spot after yesterdays game and bring in a proper right back, you know the best one we have at the club who hardly plays...Maka was awful on Wed and the empahsis has to be on attack on Tuesday anyway. Anelka wont start im sure of it.

Kalou in for Malouda is a given surely...

Proper nervous about this one. Could be a massive night.

Carlo

Paulo

JT

Carv

A.Cole

Essien

Ballack

Lampard

Kalou

Drogba

J.Cole

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I think it is crazy to leave Drogba out. Anelka on his own isn't going to get a lot of goals. That lone role doesn't suit him. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to play both of them.

My preference is for a midfield diamond with Joe at the tip. Some in the City thread said it is too defensive but I don't agree. Provided the full backs get forward we will have enough width.

So I'd go with:

----------Cech

Belletti----JT----Riccy------Bridge

----------Mikel

---Lamps---------Ballack

----------Joey

----Anelka-(and very close together)-Drogba

Same as that for me. Unfortunately, as Alan said in his post, it's not gonna happen though.

This is the vitally important bit so I'm going to repeat it again:

I think it is crazy to leave Drogba out. Anelka on his own isn't going to get a lot of goals. That lone role doesn't suit him. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to play both of them.

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I think we will create a decent number of chances to score on Tuesday without the need of attacking full backs but crucially we must not put any extra pressure on ourselves by conceding. Therefore I would select our most defensively reliable full backs which means I would pick Bridge over Cole and I wouldn't let Belletti anywhere near the 16.

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I think we will create a decent number of chances to score on Tuesday without the need of attacking full backs but crucially we must not put any extra pressure on ourselves by conceding. Therefore I would select our most defensively reliable full backs which means I would pick Bridge over Cole and I wouldn't let Belletti anywhere near the 16.

It's a fair point about the full-backs Loz. My take on it is that whatever side and formation we put out, it should be more than enough to see off the Turks. However, I don't think we should play Avram's usual cautious game on Tuesday.

Because of our second half capitulation last week, we have made the task far more difficult than it should have been. They are winning the tie. It is us that HAS to score, not them. We have to be positive from the off. The last thing we should do is sit back and invite them forward, especially when you consider that our defending is nowhere near as organised and solid as it was under Jose. For this game I really feel attack is going to be our best form of defence.

I'm certain they will put numbers behind the ball and defend with everything they have. The longer the game goes without us scoring I can see the pressure building on us and them gaining in confidence. So, two up front is a must IMO. And that should be Drogba and Anelka. I will be stunned if Grant does that though.

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I don't see Bridge as a better defensive full back than cole. The reason to play Bridge is because he crosses better.

I'd pick Belletti for this game. If we pick J Cole and Kalou and Drogba how to get Anelka into the side, only way is to leave out either Ballack Lampard or the holding midfielder.

My side

Carlo

Ferreira Riccy Terry A cole

J Cole Essien Ballack Lampard

Drogba Kalou

with Anelka to replace one of the central mid 3 at half time or possibly Drogba if he doesn't pick up his game.

I'd have SWP, Sheva and Alex on the bench as well as Anelka (are we allowed that many?) I'd like to see Sheva given some game time as if fully fit I think he does have goal scoring ability. However the second half against Wigan, no mugs these days, is probably the right opportunity.

I'd like to see J cole rested after an hour, he runs out of puff towards the end.

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Play Shevchenko and Anelka up front!

I'm still trying to figure out whether you're serious!

We could go with Drogba once more, there's always next year's quarterfinals.

theres a pretty good chance drogba will be the one to save our bacon on tuesday

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Whoever was on Setanta news last night made a very good point - we know what we've got to do. We HAVE to win this game, we have to go out and get a win. We can't sit back and draw thinking do we attack now, do we defend...

Nervous about this game, but hopefully the Bridge will be our 12th man (11th if Malouda is playing) - COME ON THE CHELS!!!!!

Also, (haven't read through all of this thread so forgive me if I'm repeating) isn't Essien suspended for this game?

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I think it would be madness to change the formation now. I'd start with the standard 4-3-3, try an attack as much as possible and make the change to 4-4-2 second half if we need a goal.

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Why madness Qaz? We switched to that against Arsenal and it looked very good. Our best chance in this match is to put it out of sight as early as possible. We can always switch to a more defensive set up later in the match if we need to. I know 1-0 would see us through but at the same time it only takes one goal from them and they will have the advantage. So push early which gives us more time to deal with any defensive issues. I really don't want to be winning 1-0 with 15 mins to go. Well I do, but you know what I mean - it will leave us very vulnerable to any late goal.

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I really don't want to be winning 1-0 with 15 mins to go. Well I do, but you know what I mean - it will leave us very vulnerable to any late goal.

Im in the thinking were going to need 3 goals in 90 minutes. That should be our target at KO.

We need to smash them to bits, its only Fenrebahce, were at home, we have a FULL squad with no injuries, we have no excuses, the world will be watching, lets show them what weve got.

3-5-3 no time for defending. happy0034.gif

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