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Liverpool.

The club that likes to talk about "dignity". The club that likes to think it adheres to higher standards that others can only aspire to.

Is today the day that the facade finally crumbled and the world saw them for what they truly are?

A club that chooses to blame everyone and everything else rather than admit it was wrong.

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Dalglish has made a complete idiot of himself over this, and all to defend a total scumbag. I just wonder what the american owners are making of this, I can't believe they are allowing it to happen.

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I am going to write to something now I never thought I would write.

All credit to Stan Collymore!

Being an ex-Liverpool player Stan has normally put on the red tinted goggles, applied the vaseline and is busily stroking his member whenever he talks about the "people's club". But I listened to some of Talksport this evening and he was genuinely angry at Suarez, Dalglish and the club's handling of the whole Evra/Suarez affair. And he absolutely destroyed some of the Liverpool fans ringing in to make their feeble excuses.

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Dalglish has made a complete idiot of himself over this, and all to defend a total scumbag. I just wonder what the american owners are making of this, I can't believe they are allowing it to happen.

It's not just that they've allowed it to happen, it's as if they don't even know what's going on, there's been absolutely nothing said by them or their representatives. It's insane, unless of course they agree with Dalgleish, which is even scarier.

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Its just unbelievable. Evra, who was quite viciously racially abused, tries to be the bigger man and extends his hand. Showing his willingness to forgive and put the matter behind him. Suarez throws it back at him and the scoucers (lead in the charge by Dalgleish himself) have the nerve to call themselves the victims. You just can't explain it with rational thinking. I didn't even expect the scoucers to be this out of touch with reality.

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Their self-delusion knows no bounds. First, Dalglish disputes the fact that LS refused the handshake. Then he calls Jeff Shreeves 'bang out of order' for telling him that's what happened. Then he only agrees to be interviewed for MotD if they don't raise the handshake snub (leading MotD to broadcast the Shreeves interview!). And now have a look at this:

http://twitpic.com/8iizha

LFC have - in pursuing their embarrassingly cheesy, clichéd and misguided 'He'll never walk alone' bollox - thrown their support 100% behind a guy who is not worthy of it. Suarez may be a very talented player, but his record (biting, eye-gouging, racial abuse) is so bad that to defend him as blindly as the club and their fans do is not loyalty, its insanity.

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Their self-delusion knows no bounds. First, Dalglish disputes the fact that LS refused the handshake. Then he calls Jeff Shreeves 'bang out of order' for telling him that's what happened. Then he only agrees to be interviewed for MotD if they don't raise the handshake snub (leading MotD to broadcast the Shreeves interview!). And now have a look at this:

http://twitpic.com/8iizha

LFC have - in pursuing their embarrassingly cheesy, clichéd and misguided 'He'll never walk alone' bollox - thrown their support 100% behind a guy who is not worthy of it. Suarez may be a very talented player, but his record (biting, eye-gouging, racial abuse) is so bad that to defend him as blindly as the club and their fans do is not loyalty, its insanity.

It's brilliant isn't it? They're turning in to a parody of themselves, it's moving in to funny territory.

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putz/ˈpəts/

Noun:

A stupid or worthless person.

Luis Suarez? A putz.

Rio Ferdinand? A putz.

The whole thing is ridiculous. And Ferdinand is no better than Suarez, for refusing to shake Suarez's hand.

Also, was anyone ejected for singing "Suarez, you know what you are?" Why is it OK for ManU fans to sing it, but not Chelsea fans?

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Their self-delusion knows no bounds. First, Dalglish disputes the fact that LS refused the handshake. Then he calls Jeff Shreeves 'bang out of order' for telling him that's what happened. Then he only agrees to be interviewed for MotD if they don't raise the handshake snub (leading MotD to broadcast the Shreeves interview!).  And now have a look at this:

http://twitpic.com/8iizha

LFC have - in pursuing their embarrassingly cheesy, clichéd and misguided 'He'll never walk alone' bollox - thrown their support 100% behind a guy who is not worthy of it. Suarez may be a very talented player, but his record (biting, eye-gouging, racial abuse) is so bad that to defend him as blindly as the club and their fans do is not loyalty, its insanity.

The interview with Shreeves was unreal! I have always felt Dalglish was not the sharpest knife in the draw and this confirmed it. He lost the plot completely.

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putz/ˈpəts/

Noun:

A stupid or worthless person.

Luis Suarez? A putz.

Rio Ferdinand? A putz.

The whole thing is ridiculous. And Ferdinand is no better than Suarez, for refusing to shake Suarez's hand.

Also, was anyone ejected for singing "Suarez, you know what you are?" Why is it OK for ManU fans to sing it, but not Chelsea fans?

I cant agree, Ferdinand is a prick but the reason he didnt shake his hand is because of Suarez ignoring Evra. He was well within his rights to ignore Suarez.

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Its all a bit silly. I understand Dalglish saying he didn't see it, he cant go trashing his best player. I think most managers would be trying to weasel their way out.

Suarez on the other hand was out of line. But im not going to put on the sanctimonious hat, because i really hate when other fans carry on with that sh*t towards us.

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Ha, it looks like our years of being relentlessly hounded by the bullsh*t-hungry media have finally come in handy. While we quietly take care of the situation by cancelling the handshake, Liverpool blunder straight into yet another PR disaster.

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I think it's time to do away with the whole pre-match handshake ritual. It's only for the cameras anyway, and now players are using it to make "political" statements, it's become more trouble than it's worth. Surely the time to shake hands is after the game.

But then your bowing to the muppets. What should be done is they are made to shake hands and anyone who doesn`t cant play. It bugs me when we have to pander to the minority, I would rather we tell them to grow up and do what is expected and is correct. The hand shake is there for a reason, its to try and teach respect of others to young supporters.

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But then your bowing to the muppets. What should be done is they are made to shake hands and anyone who doesn`t cant play. It bugs me when we have to pander to the minority, I would rather we tell them to grow up and do what is expected and is correct. The hand shake is there for a reason, its to try and teach respect of others to young supporters.

That's one way to look at it sure, but until not so long ago the handshake ritual only took place before Cup Finals and International matches. It's not really needed before every Premier League game.

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I agree it should`nt really be done before every game (though the fact the FA felt the need to bring it in shows the state of the game) but it is here now and should be adhered to.

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For me the ritual of the pre-match handshakes symbolises that the players put away all their off-pitch differences and for 90 minutes they devote themselves to football and allow no distractions. With so many deplorable incidents on the pitch recently I think the players need more reminders that they should mind they behaviour so the handshake should rather be more enforced than abolished.

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Not sure what the football world expected, these two men clearly don't get on ( no matter the rights and wrongs of the case, this has been previously dealt with) and any handshake would be futile. Ferdinand took a similar line having witnessed the snub ... these are personal choices wether we agree or disagree with the principles. Aggrieved people in all walks of life make choices about wether to end the grievances or carry them on, I don't agree with how Suarez has conducted himself throughout or the reaction from Dalgleish but who am i to judge?

The moment these pre game handshakes started to be used as a tactical weapon is the time to end them.

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5 live reckon a liverpool statement within 24 hours. So how much do you want to put on it being about Evra moving his hand a couple of inches back and Suarez is totally innocent, Evra lied and should pay him all the wages he lost during that spell and everyone is out to get Liverpool because they are jealous of their history?

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