4 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Fulham on Saturday tickets are on general sale I've said it before it's completely naive to think we could sell out 60,000 every home West Ham do it Spurs can do it is irrelevant. Chelsea have a hardcore of about 25-30,000 fans members they tend to be not always casual fans who pick and choose what games they attend I'm in that bracket myself.  When Mourinho got sacked first time round after a Champions League game the crowd was 25,000 wasn't a glamour tie but still not a great attendance. If we are mid table for a couple more seasons or worse the clamour for tickets by tourists will also be on the wane. Season tickets are on the rise I can see the numbers also dropping off especially as Boehly is only interested in corporate tossers and not average Chelsea fans. Finally I have typed this on my phone apologies for spacing etc.

 

It's a completely nonsense opinion to think west ham can sell out 60k week in week out and we can't. 

Also Fulham tickets aren't on general sale. 

9 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

It's a completely nonsense opinion to think west ham can sell out 60k week in week out and we can't. 

Also Fulham tickets aren't on general sale. 

It also ignores that west ham have have crowds in the 20,000's also. But hey, some people gotta push that negativity at every opportunity....

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

It's a completely nonsense opinion to think west ham can sell out 60k week in week out and we can't. 

Also Fulham tickets aren't on general sale. 

They  were yesterday and so were tickets for Wolves.

1 minute ago, bluehaze said:

They  were yesterday and so were tickets for Wolves.

Season ticket holders could buy two extra tickets for the Fulham match now sold out that will be par for the course for the rest of the season.

17 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Season ticket holders could buy two extra tickets for the Fulham match now sold out that will be par for the course for the rest of the season.

Yeah probably, the football is dire and there isn't a huge appetite to go from many fans.

But they will sell out. And if we had a shiny new stadium, it would also sell out. 

23 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Fulham on Saturday tickets are on general sale I've said it before it's completely naive to think we could sell out 60,000 every home West Ham do it Spurs can do it is irrelevant. Chelsea have a hardcore of about 25-30,000 fans members they tend to be not always casual fans who pick and choose what games they attend I'm in that bracket myself.  When Mourinho got sacked first time round after a Champions League game the crowd was 25,000 wasn't a glamour tie but still not a great attendance. If we are mid table for a couple more seasons or worse the clamour for tickets by tourists will also be on the wane. Season tickets are on the rise I can see the numbers also dropping off especially as Boehly is only interested in corporate tossers and not average Chelsea fans. Finally I have typed this on my phone apologies for spacing etc.

 

The tickets that made general sale are £180 a pop aren't they? 

3 minutes ago, RIP Mourinho said:

The tickets that made general sale are £180 a pop aren't they? 

There's fury amongst Fulham fans over ticket prices full stop.

On 11/01/2024 at 12:12, bluehaze said:

Fulham on Saturday tickets are on general sale I've said it before it's completely naive to think we could sell out 60,000 every home West Ham do it Spurs can do it is irrelevant. Chelsea have a hardcore of about 25-30,000 fans members they tend to be not always casual fans who pick and choose what games they attend I'm in that bracket myself.  When Mourinho got sacked first time round after a Champions League game the crowd was 25,000 wasn't a glamour tie but still not a great attendance. If we are mid table for a couple more seasons or worse the clamour for tickets by tourists will also be on the wane. Season tickets are on the rise I can see the numbers also dropping off especially as Boehly is only interested in corporate tossers and not average Chelsea fans. Finally I have typed this on my phone apologies for spacing etc.

Good points there and if the football is not entertaining or we are not successful then more than 60k seems OTT, still I guess the owners could lease it for other events.........

The key is to have a competent team and we are some way off.

Would not be too surprised if Clearlake does not find a clever way out of ownership and building a new stadium yet find another owner that will do this a few years down the line. Likely legal shenanigans ahead if they cannot get the team to perform well within 2.5 years.

1 hour ago, RIP Mourinho said:

The tickets that made general sale are £180 a pop aren't they? 

They are for the Westview even more that went on general sale and you can guarantee they won't have been bought by your average Chelsea fan.

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Yeah probably, the football is dire and there isn't a huge appetite to go from many fans.

But they will sell out. And if we had a shiny new stadium, it would also sell out. 

I don't know if it's blind loyalty or denial but if you think everything is ok with the average match going Chelsea fan then you are completely wrong. I don't know how often you go or have gone to  games but I know loads of Chelsea fans who don't go to home games anymore. The atmosphere is sterile it's full of tourists taking selfies especially in the West lower and the football is terrible. The disconnection between Boehly etc and the fans is getting wider there's no love for him like there was for Roman he's also determined to have more corporate fans than normal fans. If we did get a 60,000 stadium do you seriously not think they are exactly the type of fans he's trying to attract. For us old enough to remember the debacle of the 70's overreaching after success then building the East Stand with the team in decline (there were other factors) it's not unlikely it could happen again seeing as we have lost more games than anyone else in the calendar year. 

15 minutes ago, strider6004 said:

Good points there and if the football is not entertaining or we are not successful then more than 60k seems OTT, still I guess the owners could lease it for other events.........

The key is to have a competent team and we are some way off.

Would not be too surprised if Clearlake does not find a clever way out of ownership and building a new stadium yet find another owner that will do this a few years down the line. Likely legal shenanigans ahead if they cannot get the team to perform well within 2.5 years.

If we are mid table not playing in Europe for the next couple of seasons I guarantee when we play the likes of Brighton, Burnley, Wolves it won't sell out if it does it will be cause tickets have gone on general sale. It pains me to say this but I am seeing it with my own eyes at the Bridge and talking to mates and any Chelsea fans I meet wherever it is.

58 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

I don't know if it's blind loyalty or denial but if you think everything is ok with the average match going Chelsea fan then you are completely wrong. I don't know how often you go or have gone to  games but I know loads of Chelsea fans who don't go to home games anymore. The atmosphere is sterile it's full of tourists taking selfies especially in the West lower and the football is terrible. The disconnection between Boehly etc and the fans is getting wider there's no love for him like there was for Roman he's also determined to have more corporate fans than normal fans. If we did get a 60,000 stadium do you seriously not think they are exactly the type of fans he's trying to attract. For us old enough to remember the debacle of the 70's overreaching after success then building the East Stand with the team in decline (there were other factors) it's not unlikely it could happen again seeing as we have lost more games than anyone else in the calendar year. 

I'm not sure that will necessarily be the case.

On the Feliciano interview on the Boehly thread, the main guy in Clearlake talks about how important the fans are as stakeholders, and acknowledges that this support has in some cases been passed down from 5 generations. That does not sound like a statement from someone who is trying to alienate the normal fan.

If they are developing Stamford Bridge, as opposed to a new site, then the only way they can do that in any significant numbers is to redevelop the Shed End, which currently holds by far the least amount of supporters. I said higher up the thread that the new Stoll land acquisition in my view is to enable them to move the hotel, shop, museum etc to the Stoll site so they can completely redevelop that end of the ground. My hope is that they are considering a huge bank of safe standing so that we end up with our equivalent of Dortmund's famous Yellow Wall ... what I would call, if it was up to me, the Great White Wall ... in the New Shed End 🙂 . This, like the Dortmund version, is an area of well priced tickets specifically for the normal fan, who is more likely to sing and support, and build the atmosphere in the stadium. You've then got the other seated stands available, or part of them anyway, to target the casual and corporate market.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Clearlake were paying keen attention to the Everton stadium build, and I'm also sure that I read that the Everton plan makes provision for safe standing in the design. I'm adding 1+1 and getting 2 🙂 

How cool would that be, if Clearlake brought back actual terraces to Stamford Bridge ? 

14 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

I'm not sure that will necessarily be the case.

On the Feliciano interview on the Boehly thread, the main guy in Clearlake talks about how important the fans are as stakeholders, and acknowledges that this support has in some cases been passed down from 5 generations. That does not sound like a statement from someone who is trying to alienate the normal fan.

If they are developing Stamford Bridge, as opposed to a new site, then the only way they can do that in any significant numbers is to redevelop the Shed End, which currently holds by far the least amount of supporters. I said higher up the thread that the new Stoll land acquisition in my view is to enable them to move the hotel, shop, museum etc to the Stoll site so they can completely redevelop that end of the ground. My hope is that they are considering a huge bank of safe standing so that we end up with our equivalent of Dortmund's famous Yellow Wall ... what I would call, if it was up to me, the Great White Wall ... in the New Shed End 🙂 . This, like the Dortmund version, is an area of well priced tickets specifically for the normal fan, who is more likely to sing and support, and build the atmosphere in the stadium. You've then got the other seated stands available, or part of them anyway, to target the casual and corporate market.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Clearlake were paying keen attention to the Everton stadium build, and I'm also sure that I read that the Everton plan makes provision for safe standing in the design. I'm adding 1+1 and getting 2 🙂 

How cool would that be, if Clearlake brought back actual terraces to Stamford Bridge ? 

Talk is cheap yellow wall at Chelsea please will never happen. He's shut down Under the Bridge turned it into an executive club done more or less the same with the East Lower. No European football or challenging for major honours after 2 decades of success disillusioned fans a cost of living crisis that is not going away season tickets hike and general admission will go hope and you talk about building a Dortmund type wall Germany where football is so much cheaper where local fans watch their club get your head out of the sand mate.

Just now, bluehaze said:

Talk is cheap yellow wall at Chelsea please will never happen. He's shut down Under the Bridge turned it into an executive club done more or less the same with the East Lower. No European football or challenging for major honours after 2 decades of success disillusioned fans a cost of living crisis that is not going away season tickets hike and general admission will go up and you talk about building a Dortmund type wall Germany where football is so much cheaper where local fans watch their club get your head out of the sand mate.

 

19 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

Talk is cheap yellow wall at Chelsea please will never happen. He's shut down Under the Bridge turned it into an executive club done more or less the same with the East Lower. No European football or challenging for major honours after 2 decades of success disillusioned fans a cost of living crisis that is not going away season tickets hike and general admission will go hope and you talk about building a Dortmund type wall Germany where football is so much cheaper where local fans watch their club get your head out of the sand mate.

Well, all we can do is see what happens ... but I don't think for one minute they are intending to run the normal fan out of the club, and I'm sure in due course we'll all find out what they have in plan for the stadium re-development. The Stoll land acquisition is clearly the start of it ... 

On UTB, I thought that was a night club/music venue before it was an executive club, so what's that got to do with the match day experience for a normal fan ? 

 

2 hours ago, bluehaze said:

I don't know if it's blind loyalty or denial but if you think everything is ok with the average match going Chelsea fan then you are completely wrong. I don't know how often you go or have gone to  games but I know loads of Chelsea fans who don't go to home games anymore. The atmosphere is sterile it's full of tourists taking selfies especially in the West lower and the football is terrible. The disconnection between Boehly etc and the fans is getting wider there's no love for him like there was for Roman he's also determined to have more corporate fans than normal fans. If we did get a 60,000 stadium do you seriously not think they are exactly the type of fans he's trying to attract. For us old enough to remember the debacle of the 70's overreaching after success then building the East Stand with the team in decline (there were other factors) it's not unlikely it could happen again seeing as we have lost more games than anyone else in the calendar year. 

I don't go much anymore because it's a massive faff getting tickets and the atmosphere is rubbish 

I see that only getting better with a better stadium. 

You're on a real negative vibe here, if we're mid table in 5-10 years time there will be bigger problems than us not selling our a nice new stadium. 

 

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Well, all we can do is see what happens ... but I don't think for one minute they are intending to run the normal fan out of the club, and I'm sure in due course we'll all find out what they have in plan for the stadium re-development. The Stoll land acquisition is clearly the start of it ... 

On UTB, I thought that was a night club/music venue before it was an executive club, so what's that got to do with the match day experience for a normal fan ? 

 

IHe closed it down to make an executive club for corporate types on march day .

5 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

The tickets that made general sale are £180 a pop aren't they? 

It’s just Westview not selling out since they whacked the prices up by over 50% because you can get decentish scran up there now.

I don’t want to pay all that money to watch us struggle to beat Fulham playing sh*te football on top. I’d rather be someone warm. 

3 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

IHe closed it down to make an executive club for corporate types on march day .

Roman originally built it in 2012 for £20m for use by him/his friends ... it was only later that it was used as a venue for public gigs. Only held 500 anyway ... and anything for match day use (some hospitality plus ticket, with ex-player hosts etc) was a hell of a lot more than the face price of a ticket anyway ... so not sure why you have any issue with what Clearlake have done with it ? 

I saw a TripAdvisor review for UTB from 2016 where someone was complaining that they paid £2000 for 4 of them for the match day hospitality package ... £500 per person, so that's not anyone worried about ticket prices, even back then ... so what has changed ? 

Something the new owners will have to look at with the current stadium. We have an ageing support regarding season tickets. When you get to 65 for example in the MHU where I am, a season ticket goes from £880 to £440. 
 

I have friends who are already enjoying this saving. The thing is a lot of people around the ground will keep their tickets going knowing they will save money.

If they don’t make the ground bigger they will start to lose money and not bring in younger fans needed to grow the club.

7 hours ago, Munkunku said:

It’s just Westview not selling out since they whacked the prices up by over 50% because you can get decentish scran up there now.

I don’t want to pay all that money to watch us struggle to beat Fulham playing sh*te football on top. I’d rather be someone warm. 

So you are not coming to visit visit then?

 

 

At some point the owners are gonna sell the naming rights to the Bridge aren't they?

 

Wwe stadium at Stamford Bridge, it is Sports, not entertainment ;)

13 hours ago, axman2526 said:

So you are not coming to visit visit then?

 

 

5 minutes ago, Munkunku said:

Got a balmy -42 out here today  ;)

Just now, axman2526 said:

Got a balmy -42 out here today  😉