February 10, 201511 yr McArthur said something that Pearson took exception to. He said so afterwards. He put his hands round his throat and subsequently held on to him while play was going on and against the player's will. He also said afterwards, "I can look after myself". If any of you feel Jose wouldn't have been hung, drawn and quartered for the same incident by the officials, the media and the authorities you're plainly deluded. Those of you saying Pearson is smiling need to look a little closer at that smile. Jack the Ripper used to smile too, by all accounts. I don't think a smile can be taken in evidence. There was obviously a bit of needle. Sure the protagonists denied it after the event, but that often happens when something untoward happens. Pearson was clearly riled at getting knocked over, there were verbals, he retailiated. Edit: It's a ban for Jose and no mistake. Edited February 10, 201511 yr by Davey Baby
February 10, 201511 yr Love this on WAGNH - http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/2/10/8010855/yes-this-is-a-joke
February 10, 201511 yr Not sure why the fuss and comparison with the Pearson incident. It is clearly done with a smile on both their faces and they pretty much said so afterwards, hence the reason no further action was taken. All this tin foil hattery is tiresome. The pussification of football. Sometimes it's easy to forget these are men playing sport and a bit of this happens. Fact is that those who complain about a media conspiracy seem to have glossed over the fact that MOTD highlighted it and the host continued the squabble on Twitter. But they can't moan about that so they moan about the FA. Calling for a ban for the 'choke'is just one of those things in the modern game.
February 10, 201511 yr Calling for a ban for the 'choke'is just one of those things in the modern game.That's right, because back in the day managers always put their hands around players' throats. People aren't calling for a ban as much as they're calling for the same treatment for everybody. Edit: That's all. Edited February 10, 201511 yr by Davey Baby
February 10, 201511 yr That's right, because back in the day managers always put their hands around players' throats. People aren't calling for a ban as much as their calling for the same treatment for everybody. That's all. You make it sound like he tried throttling him. If you've watched the video and think it was malicious or violent conduct then fine. To me it was more odd then anything and both men brushed it off. Case closed. But people will twist anything to fit an agenda and the media (the mainstream media) tried to build it up. I think the FA got it right.
February 10, 201511 yr You make it sound like he tried throttling him. No, I simply refuted the claim it was a joke.
February 10, 201511 yr Not sure why the fuss and comparison with the Pearson incident. It is clearly done with a smile on both their faces and they pretty much said so afterwards, hence the reason no further action was taken. All this tin foil hattery is tiresome. Can you point me to a clip which shows them both clearly smiling during the incident? Do you often wrap your hands around someone's throat, completely at random, as a joke? All this 'we get everything we deserve and we're treated exactly the same as everybody else despite all evidence to the contrary' quickly wears thin too. Edited February 10, 201511 yr by Englishman
February 10, 201511 yr No, I simply refuted the claim it was a joke. A light hearted moment between sportsmen. These are grown men and these types of things happen on sports pitches. See you haven't commented on the media going overboard on this as well. Is there an agenda against Leicester City
February 10, 201511 yr A light hearted moment between sportsmen. These are grown men and these types of things happen on sports pitches. See you haven't commented on the media going overboard on this as well. Is there an agenda against Leicester City I am sorry, but that is the first time ever in thirty years I have seen a oppoisition manager attempting to strangel a player of the other side, will have to pay more attention from now.
February 10, 201511 yr A light hearted moment between sportsmen. These are grown men and these types of things happen on sports pitches. You've contradicted yourself there. Yes these things happen, no they're not light-hearted. It may be something you can brush off afterwards but at the time needle is involved, that's why they happen. Sport can get a bit fraught. As for the media going overboard, I can only assume you're being light-hearted yourself. You take any one of a number of incidents from the weekend, and replace the protagonists with a Chelsea player or manager, and you will see what overboard is. Nobody has ever said the media don't report on others' misdemeanours, simply that they go overboard with Chelsea. Of course MOTD were going to cover the incident, it was all over social media as soon as it happened. It was a major talking point. People were staying up late to watch it. What were they going to do, ignore it .. ?
February 10, 201511 yr It still warrants a charge from the FA, regardless of whether it looks worse than it was or not. Could you see Mourinho getting away with this? Because I honestly can't, they would have charged him based on past issues. It's hardly a choke when you see it in real time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcvxjlTyf5k It's the subsequent reaction that makes it all quite weird, the holding onto the shirt and the interview after. The fact that he got a warning in December about his conduct is also a wrinkle although that was regarding a fan. What I will say is that it looks far worse in the photograph than the video.
February 10, 201511 yr See you haven't commented on the media going overboard on this as well. Is there an agenda against Leicester City did they get fined? I don't see the FA rushing to get Pearson's POV before they give him a ban. Actually I only hear crickets chirping next the FA Office.
February 10, 201511 yr Nonsense, if it was all light hearted, then explain Pearsons comments after the game, he didn't make it clear that it was light hearted at all. He smiled at first, yes, but he clearly snapped and the player was also clearly trying to get Pearson to let go of him. You can chalk this off as just a minor incident, to fit your opinions on the ‘media/FA agenda’, but this was not just a minor incident and there is no way that Mourinho would have gotten away with this. If there is no agenda like you suggest, then there is definitely a huge case of inconsistency from the FA and that is an understatement. A light hearted moment between sportsmen. These are grown men and these types of things happen on sports pitches.
February 10, 201511 yr Can you point me to a clip which shows them both clearly smiling during the incident? Do you often wrap your hands around someone's throat, completely at random, as a joke? All this 'we get everything we deserve and we're treated exactly the same as everybody else despite all evidence to the contrary' quickly wears thin too. Look at the wrinkle lines around Pearsons eyes - they are lines you get with a smile. There is also the TV - look closely.As far as do I often wrap my hands around someone's throat in jest. Erm, not often but yes, I have done so before as I suspect most people , including you, have! Edited February 10, 201511 yr by Crem
February 10, 201511 yr I am sorry, but that is the first time ever in thirty years I have seen a oppoisition manager attempting to strangel a player of the other side, will have to pay more attention from now. You're going to need to make a change in your diary because you haven't seen a man trying to strangle another. That would result in an arrest, regardless of it being on a football pitch.
February 10, 201511 yr Here we go.... http://berita2bahasa.com/images/articles/201529z%20Nigel%20Pearson%20appears%20to%20put%20his%20hands%20around%20the%20throat%20of%20Crystal%20Palace%20-%20b.jpg ..clearly both smiling. End of.
February 10, 201511 yr Fuss over nothing. Pearson got taken by surprise, jokily throttled McArthur, McArthur obviously didn't take it jokily and said something to him, Pearson grabbed his shirt in a sort of "what are you saying that for?" type fashion. If he was going to be banned the throttling would have needed to be serious, shirt pulling is a yellow card at worst. There is no conspiracy against Chelsea, every club thinks everyone else is against them, Diego Costa deserved his ban and I think we've been treated equally (badly) by referees and the FA with everything else this season in comparison to others. If it played out like that then why didn't Pearson just say that instead of being all weird when he was talking to the media ? Instead of blaming people like Gary Lineker he should explain himself. His attitude towards this suggests that he knows he has done wrong.
February 10, 201511 yr To be honest this is giving me the f888ing zig, if that was jose. he'd be banned and fined straight away, same with van persie, costa gets a 3 match ban nothing is said about his or the worst elbow by fellatio, then you got this new t.v deal, where scudamore does not give a flying f**k about grass roots football and talks about giving 1% of the tv rights money to grass roots football. does he think 12m pound a year over 3 years is going to make a dent in the grass roots game these people are off their heads.
February 10, 201511 yr If it played out like that then why didn't Pearson just say that instead of being all weird when he was talking to the media ? Instead of blaming people like Gary Lineker he should explain himself. His attitude towards this suggests that he knows he has done wrong. His comments afterwards were weird, but I think that you have to look at the incident itself in real time. You've contradicted yourself there. Yes these things happen, no they're not light-hearted. I'm going to have to agree to disagree. As for the media going overboard, I can only assume you're being light-hearted yourself. You take any one of a number of incidents from the weekend, and replace the protagonists with a Chelsea player or manager, and you will see what overboard is. Because we're always the victim right....
February 10, 201511 yr That's Liverpools game, all some of us are doing is pointing out the fact that the FA are incredibly inconsistent. Let's suppose Pearson was joking then, where is the ban for Van Persie? Because we're always the victim right....
February 10, 201511 yr That's Liverpools game, all some of us are doing is pointing out the fact that the FA are incredibly inconsistent. Let's suppose Pearson was joking then, where is the ban for Van Persie? I actually didn't see the elbow by Van Persie and the only video I can find is a vine https://mediacdn.fanatix.com/view.php?newsitem_id=90257503 Are we sure that's the elbow Jose was referring to?
February 10, 201511 yr Yes and there is clear contact. Even if it doesn't warrant a ban, the inconsistency from the FA is embarassing and the level of officiating has drastically gone down hill this season. I actually didn't see the elbow by Van Persie and the only video I can find is a vine https://mediacdn.fanatix.com/view.php?newsitem_id=90257503 Are we sure that's the elbow Jose was referring to?
February 10, 201511 yr Because we're always the victim right.... If you think the media are even-handed, fine, that's your look out. I find you rather deluded but there you go.
February 10, 201511 yr Look at the wrinkle lines around Pearsons eyes - they are lines you get with a smile. There is also the TV - look closely. As far as do I often wrap my hands around someone's throat in jest. Erm, not often but yes, I have done so before as I suspect most people , including you, have! No I can't remember the last time I wrapped my hands around someone's throat in jest, and if I did I wouldn't blame them for not seeing the funny side... it's a pretty violent gesture, especially when done completely out of the blue. Btw, Pearson isn't smiling in either freeze frame, and McArthur clearly isn't smiling in the first one...
February 10, 201511 yr If you think the media are even-handed, fine, that's your look out. I find you rather deluded but there you go. Even-handed? In that each story from each club is given the same prominence? Absolutely not. By the way you never did answer the question about what your experience of working in the media is. Maybe try that instead of the insults over t'internet ok?
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