Let's not conflate racism and sexism. In the world of football they're very different, mostly because football is a very male-dominated arena.

 

Some of the abuse she got was just ridiculous but in crowds you'll always get blokes trying to get a laugh by saying stuff like that. Occasionally it's funny, in this case it wasn't - racism never is though.

 

Funny for who? The mob of big drunk blokes or the solitary girl being abused?

Funny for who? The mob of big drunk blokes or the solitary girl being abused?

 

The mob of big drunk blokes - group of football supporters.

 

solitary girl - think she'd probably prefer being called a woman.

 

Anyway it's funny for them. Much like it's funny for the group of football supporters to mercilessly mock wee little Stevie G for his slip. Some of it definitely goes too far but you're not going to eradicate it completely, and I'd question who would actually want to.

The mob of big drunk blokes - group of football supporters.

 

solitary girl - think she'd probably prefer being called a woman.

 

Anyway it's funny for them. Much like it's funny for the group of football supporters to mercilessly mock wee little Stevie G for his slip. Some of it definitely goes too far but you're not going to eradicate it completely, and I'd question who would actually want to.

 

If it were your partner would you feel the same?

 

Giving sh*t to players and the ref feels like part of the game to me, trying to intimidate them and in turn helping your own team out. Same with giving sh*t to mouthy opposition fans as you're trying to demonstrate your superiority. I don't think this is in the same category and thats why this is where I draw the line.

Edited March 11, 201511 yr by Jonty

Mocking a slip is not the same as gender discrimination with a sexual slant.

If it were your partner would you feel the same?

 

Eva or Stevie G?

 

 

Mocking a slip is not the same as gender discrimination with a sexual slant.

 

Is anyone suggesting she shouldn't be a doctor at our club? There are plenty of chants at football clubs that cross a certain line - would you like to see them all banned for fear of offending someone?

If it were your partner would you feel the same?

 

Giving sh*t to players and the ref feels like part of the game to me, trying to intimidate them and in turn helping your own team out. Same with giving sh*t to mouthy opposition fans as you're trying to demonstrate your superiority. I don't think this is in the same category and thats why this is where I draw the line.

 

I have spoken to my Mrs and she says it wouldn't bother her in the slightest and if she was Eva she would expect it. Crowds of football supporters will chant all sorts of things and you have to be professional enough to accept it, just as players and refs / officials take all sorts of abuse.

 

Don't get me wrong - it doesn't make it right and some of the chants / shouts are crude and unfunny but what are we gonna do - make it against the law to say / sing anything derogatory or just make a case for women? 

I have spoken to my Mrs and she says it wouldn't bother her in the slightest and if she was Eva she would expect it. Crowds of football supporters will chant all sorts of things and you have to be professional enough to accept it, just as players and refs / officials take all sorts of abuse.

 

Don't get me wrong - it doesn't make it right and some of the chants / shouts are crude and unfunny but what are we gonna do - make it against the law to say / sing anything derogatory or just make a case for women? 

 

We've made a case for black people and jewish people so why not?

We've made a case for black people and jewish people so why not?

 

So we add women to the list.

 

Where do we draw the line? What's next - fat, ginger, ugly, bald etc etc.

 

As I keep saying, I'm not condoning it, but when your job involves working where there are crowds of 40,000+ and you are in a certain environment, sometimes you just have to be slightly more thick skinned.

Where do we draw the line? What's next - fat, ginger, ugly, bald etc etc.

Oi, you leave my wife out of it.

So we add women to the list.

 

Where do we draw the line? What's next - fat, ginger, ugly, bald etc etc.

 

As I keep saying, I'm not condoning it, but when your job involves working where there are crowds of 40,000+ and you are in a certain environment, sometimes you just have to be slightly more thick skinned.

 

"Who ate all the pies" now banned as a chant so as not to offend fatties.

So we add women to the list.

 

Where do we draw the line? What's next - fat, ginger, ugly, bald etc etc.

 

As I keep saying, I'm not condoning it, but when your job involves working where there are crowds of 40,000+ and you are in a certain environment, sometimes you just have to be slightly more thick skinned.

 

There's a huge and obvious difference between abuse/discrimination directed towards blacks/Jews/women and the mocking of fatties and gingers.

There's a huge and obvious difference between abuse/discrimination directed towards blacks/Jews/women and the mocking of fatties and gingers.

 

Fatties, yes. It's their fault and their girth makes them hilarious. 

 

Gingers though, that's not their fault and it's a serious illness. You should be more thoughtful.

 

I think we need to be clear that most of the 'banter' aimed at females is light. That guy shouting 'show us where you etc.' is an absolute twat though and needs a word in his shell. That's crossing a line.

There is a point to winding up oppo fans

There is a point to winding up players/refs/managers

 

What's the point in trying to wind up a team doctor? 

 

Do other teams doctors take the same abuse as Eva is reported to get?

Any girl, lady, woman should be able to go to work and go about her business and not expect derogatory and or discriminatory remarks based on their gender, the same as a man should and, in the main, does. Expectation means it exists when it shouldn't and some would argue expectation is a form of acceptance.

Any girl, lady, woman should be able to go to work and go about her business and not expect derogatory and or discriminatory remarks based on their gender, the same as a man should and, in the main, does. Expectation means it exists when it shouldn't and some would argue expectation is a form of acceptance.

 

Do the 40,000 people who watch you work sit there in silence?

 

Football is an entertainment business so whilst you're correct in what you say, it's hardly the same as being a sales director or secretary.

Fatties, yes. It's their fault and their girth makes them hilarious. 

 

Gingers though, that's not their fault and it's a serious illness. You should be more thoughtful.

 

I think we need to be clear that most of the 'banter' aimed at females is light. That guy shouting 'show us where you etc.' is an absolute twat though and needs a word in his shell. That's crossing a line.

 

Of course, who can forget the centuries of slavery, genicide and (ongoing) oppression and discrimination that the poor gingers have been subjected to.

Do the 40,000 people who watch you work sit there in silence?

 

Football is an entertainment business so whilst you're correct in what you say, it's hardly the same as being a sales director or secretary.

The law would deem them the same.

The law would deem them the same.

The law sir is an ass! and would probably be better off served, nicking real criminals, instead of driving round threatening to confiscate 4 year old girls bicycle's for riding bikes on  pavements,  let eva be the one to decide if the chanting upsets her, she is an intelligent woman after all, i'm quite sure she does not need anyone else to be offended on her behalf.  

Was walking along the road last summer with the Mrs when white van man in traffic shouted "nice tee shirt, show us your tits"

Problem was the traffic lights changed and the car in front of him stopped so he couldn't drive off

So I took my shirt off and went to the window and asked if he liked mine and did he want me to show him my todger as well. Then I got my phone out and called his company (a national company and name and number was on the side of the van). Eventually got through to his MD, very interesting call we had.

Funny moment in front of the MHL when a player went down (probably Hazard).

 

Her and the other doctor make their way back to the dugout via the MHL and as she walks past the assistant linesman on the goalline, he has a good old look at her and get's collared by someone in the crowd and winks back with a cheeky grin. 

 

No sexist banter, just appreciation of an attractive woman.

Edited March 12, 201511 yr by Blue Daze

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It's not her, it's someone from the ladies team.

It's not her, it's someone from the ladies team.

 

Aww spoilsport! I must admit I did wonder but hoped it was her!

Aww spoilsport! I must admit I did wonder but hoped it was her!

Yeah, sorry to be a party pooper.

yeah think it's Ji So-yun when she first arrived (and was our, and England's, player of the year for the women too)