Hummels is leaving Dortmund for Bayern this summer !!

At least Reus is staying

 

It must suck being a Dortmund fan, what is the point when you keep losing all of your best players to your main rivals ? I know loyalty is fading from the game but Dortmund's players are taking the piss now. Could you imagine this happening over here ? imagine if Lampard, Drogba, Terry and Cech had left us for United when they were at their peak, it would suck.

 

At this point, i expect Reus to be the next one to join Bayern. I would find it hard to support players that are just looking to eventually join our main rivals.

Hummels probably just wants to play with all his mates again while earning more money and with better chance to win things.

It's pretty rubbish but that's the way it is now, loyalty is a rare quality in pro footballers in this day and age.

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Please villareal I ask you to beat these scouse bar stewards. Please

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Supporting the Scouse for this.

If they win the Europa League, they'll most likely kick Arsenal out of the CL (as they'll finish 4th)

 

f**king priceless that. 

Ibe is a terrible player.

Ahahahaha, f**k off Liverpool.

Supporting the Scouse for this.

If they win the Europa League, they'll most likely kick Arsenal out of the CL (as they'll finish 4th)

 

f**king priceless that. 

 

Both Arsenal and Liverpool would take a Champions League spot. Spain had 5 teams in the Champions League this season after Sevilla won the Europa League last season.

Edited April 28, 201610 yr by Scott Harris

Thank you villareal :)

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Anyone else think that Liverpool fans putting in for compensation 2 days after the verdict is a bit classless?

Kind of says, we don't care about the dead, just pay up!

 

Classless?!? Non-caring?!? What entirely disgraceful comments. The relatives of those unlawfully killed have battled for justice for 27 years! How much longer should they wait for some sort of compensation for it not to be 'classless' in your eyes? No amount of money will ever bring back their loved ones and yet that is their only redress for all the suffering they have experienced. To impugn them as you do is a terrible calumny and akin to the entirely deceitful impugning that was promulgated by the south yorkshire constabulary, it's legal advisors & the gutter murdoch press for much of that period. Have you learnt nothing out of what has come to light? Shame on you.  

Classless?!? Non-caring?!? What entirely disgraceful comments. The relatives of those unlawfully killed have battled for justice for 27 years! How much longer should they wait for some sort of compensation for it not to be 'classless' in your eyes? No amount of money will ever bring back their loved ones and yet that is their only redress for all the suffering they have experienced. To impugn them as you do is a terrible calumny and akin to the entirely deceitful impugning that was promulgated by the south yorkshire constabulary, it's legal advisors & the gutter murdoch press for much of that period. Have you learnt nothing out of what has come to light? Shame on you.

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I'm losing the plot

Edited April 28, 201610 yr by Droogba

It must suck being a Dortmund fan, what is the point when you keep losing all of your best players to your main rivals ? I know loyalty is fading from the game but Dortmund's players are taking the piss now. Could you imagine this happening over here ? imagine if Lampard, Drogba, Terry and Cech had left us for United when they were at their peak, it would suck.

 

At this point, i expect Reus to be the next one to join Bayern. I would find it hard to support players that are just looking to eventually join our main rivals.

I also think Dortmund are partly to blame for this as well, They seem to be everyone's darling but they are very cringe worthy, The build up to the Liverpool game, I hadn't seen so much mutual bum licking outside of an adult movie in all my life, Plus if they really wanted to, They could force the players hand and sell them to other clubs. If Premier League clubs can why can't they? A similar comparison would be Atletico, Aside from Arda Turan, I cannot think of a player that they made better who then went on to play for Real or Barca, They sell them elsewhere, Dortmund seem to get this sick pleasure from selling to Bayern and then have the nerve to play the victim and say 'Oh look, Big, Bad Bayern are taking our players'. It's conning the fans, It provides them an excuse if they don't win the league and therefore they can continue being a feeder club, raking in profits, They are rich, Don't let them fool you.

Great ending just hope Madrid and Villarreal finish it off next week.

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Anyone else think that Liverpool fans putting in for compensation 2 days after the verdict is a bit classless?

 

 

Nope. They've fought for it for a long time.

Their defense isn't the same without Mamadope Smacko

Both Arsenal and Liverpool would take a Champions League spot. Spain had 5 teams in the Champions League this season after Sevilla won the Europa League last season.

 

In that case.

 

Hahahahahahahahaha,. Get f**ked Liverpool.

c**ts.

Classless?!? Non-caring?!? What entirely disgraceful comments. The relatives of those unlawfully killed have battled for justice for 27 years! How much longer should they wait for some sort of compensation for it not to be 'classless' in your eyes? No amount of money will ever bring back their loved ones and yet that is their only redress for all the suffering they have experienced. To impugn them as you do is a terrible calumny and akin to the entirely deceitful impugning that was promulgated by the south yorkshire constabulary, it's legal advisors & the gutter murdoch press for much of that period. Have you learnt nothing out of what has come to light? Shame on you.

With respect (and apologies for intruding) the outcome of the inquests and the request for compensation may be seen as separate issues. In hindsight, the conduct of the police, the government at the time, the press and (being honest) the attitude to LFC of some fans - me included - has been wrong. Respect to the campaign for justice for holding out for their cause.

However, lodging a claim for financial compensation so soon after the successful resolution of a campaign for justice, does 'feel' a bit inappropriate and fair play to Shedpensioner for being honest.

What does justice mean? Is it about money or about punishing the guilty? It might be about both things, in fairness, but, for example, I think the focus should be on getting former senior police officers into court to face charges.

Some of the post inquest reaction has been OTT. For example, the insinuation that ALL coppers behaved badly on the day. I'm sure that many rank and file officers did their utmost to help. If the initial post disaster reaction was too simple and wrong, why has the media done a 180 degree turn that's equally simplistic?

Lastly, asking a simple question like is it a bit too soon to seek compensation is nothing like a 27 year long conspiracy to hide the truth. It's a question, that's all it is.

Edited April 28, 201610 yr by Spudulike

Their defense isn't the same without Mamadope Smacko

Have to admit this made me chuckle!

With respect (and apologies for intruding) the outcome of the inquests and the request for compensation may be seen as separate issues. In hindsight, the conduct of the police, the government at the time, the press and (being honest) the attitude to LFC of some fans - me included - has been wrong. Respect to the campaign for justice for holding out for their cause.

However, lodging a claim for financial compensation so soon after the successful resolution of a campaign for justice, does 'feel' a bit inappropriate and fair play to Shedpensioner for being honest.

What does justice mean? Is it about money or about punishing the guilty? It might be about both things, in fairness, but, for example, I think the focus should be on getting former senior police officers into court to face charges.

Some of the post inquest reaction has been OTT. For example, the insinuation that ALL coppers behaved badly on the day. I'm sure that many rank and file officers did their utmost to help. If the initial post disaster reaction was too simple and wrong, why has the media done a 180 degree turn that's equally simplistic?

Lastly, asking a simple question like is it a bit too soon to seek compensation is nothing like a 27 year long conspiracy to hide the truth. It's a question, that's all it is.

 

You are entirely...how shall I put it...misguided: first, the findings of the 1st inquest were quashed so of no relevance whatsoever. The outcome of the 2nd & only recently concluded inquest will be paramount to any claims for compensation - so to say, as you do, that the outcome of the 2nd inquest "may be seen as separate issues" is complete nonsense, both in a strict legal sense and in a moral sense as well. 

 

Further, and entirely distastefully, and in an attempt to support the heresy of the earlier poster, you then euphemise "classless" to "inappropriate" in some sort of pathetic attempt to soften the calumny. In what imagined way is it "inappropriate"?!? Have you any idea what difficult legal hurdles those claims for compensation will face? Time-bars, estoppel/res judicata defences in some cases & the like. Those battles will take years & rest assured, and where most likely, insurers will be involved, will be keenly fought in respect to both liability & quantum. And should it be the case that those claims are not brought as early as possible and a deferred - that will also be made use by those insurers as far as mitigation of loss is concerned.

 

So....shut up. OK? 

You are entirely...how shall I put it...misguided: first, the findings of the 1st inquest were quashed so of no relevance whatsoever. The outcome of the 2nd & only recently concluded inquest will be paramount to any claims for compensation - so to say, as you do, that the outcome of the 2nd inquest "may be seen as separate issues" is complete nonsense, both in a strict legal sense and in a moral sense as well.

Further, and entirely distastefully, and in an attempt to support the heresy of the earlier poster, you then euphemise "classless" to "inappropriate" in some sort of pathetic attempt to soften the calumny. In what imagined way is it "inappropriate"?!? Have you any idea what difficult legal hurdles those claims for compensation will face? Time-bars, estoppel/res judicata defences in some cases & the like. Those battles will take years & rest assured, and where most likely, insurers will be involved, will be keenly fought in respect to both liability & quantum. And should it be the case that those claims are not brought as early as possible and a deferred - that will also be made use by those insurers as far as mitigation of loss is concerned.

So....shut up. OK?

Heresy?

Calm down. Another poster asked a question. He didn't shoot someone. You post responses written, it appears, in anger and throw words like 'heresy' around. No one is in any doubt as to the conclusion of the inquest and the seriousness of the events at Hillsborough and subsequent cover up. It was a question, that's all.

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Heresy?

Calm down. And please be more courteous. The internet isn't a licence to speak to others disdainfully.

 

hehe...I did try to be civil to you given your quite ridiculous apologia - and thereby - support of the original calumny & your total lack of understanding of why those claims must be brought as soon as possible let alone the lack of empathy you show for those who wish to do so. In retrospect & given your rejoinder (which of course has not taken issue in any substantive sense with the material issues which I raised) I'll now take the liberty of amplifying my sensible & civil advice for you to shut up by saying that perhaps you should stick to commenting on subjects that you have a degree of knowledge on - such as perhaps, the sinking of the titanic? Is that more appropriate....courteous enough for you? Such a tory aren't you?

hehe...I did try to be civil to you given your quite ridiculous apologia - and thereby - support of the original calumny & your total lack of understanding of why those claims must be brought as soon as possible let alone the lack of empathy you show for those who wish to do so. In retrospect & given your rejoinder (which of course has not taken issue in any substantive sense with the material issues which I raised) I'll now take the liberty of amplifying my sensible & civil advice for you to shut up by saying that perhaps you should stick to commenting on subjects that you have a degree of knowledge on - such as perhaps, the sinking of the titanic? Is that more appropriate....courteous enough for you? Such a tory aren't you?

I work in the legal system. I have done for the past 16 years. I know how civil claims work, how complex they can be and how long they can take to resolve, etc. I don't think that my knowing that makes your reaction to SP's question any less disproportionate. (?).

Unless Tory has a different meaning in your country, I'm not one. I've never voted for them and can't imagine I ever will, fwiw.

mmmm...I see that you keep editing your posts after I've commented on same. I can only speculate on why that is.

I work in the legal system. I have done for the past 16 years. I know how civil claims work, how complex they can be and how long they can take to resolve, etc. I don't think that my knowing that makes your reaction to SP's question any less disproportionate. (?).

Unless Tory has a different meaning in your country, I'm not one. I've never voted for them and can't imagine I ever will, fwiw.

 I unreservedly withdraw the tory remark - it was contemptuous & undeserved - and for that i apologize to you.

I unreservedly withdraw the tory remark - it was contemptuous & undeserved - and for that i apologize to you.

Thank you. I can take most abuse but that was undeserved!

I work in the legal system. I have done for the past 16 years. I know how civil claims work, how complex they can be and how long they can take to resolve, etc. I don't think that my knowing that makes your reaction to SP's question any less disproportionate. (?).

 

 

Oh come now: the original poster's question was not innocently put & left at that  - it was a rhetorical conceit to which he then supplied his own answer. The answer he gave to such a conceit produced the heresy. Further, and given your legal experience I'm even more surprised & I might add, dismayed by your original post if anything.