40 minutes ago, evissy said:

... our owners being evil money grabbing investors.

Boehly is apparently being paid FIFTEEN TO TWENTY MILLION POUNDS A YEAR !!!

Football Insider

Revealed: Chelsea man earning £400,000-a-week - more than...

Football Insider has been told Chelsea owner and chairman Todd Boelhy's mega-money salary to run the club on behalf of Clearlake.

I used to think Daniel Levy was a money grabbing bastard, and he's supposedly "only" on £6-7m, which in itself was by far the highest paid PL exec before BlueCo rocked up on the scene ...

Express.co.uk

Levy's eye-watering Tottenham salary towers over Man Utd...

Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is the best-paid club chief in the Premier League.

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by Sexyfootball

40 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Boehly is apparently being paid FIFTEEN TO TWENTY MILLION POUNDS A YEAR !!!

Football Insider

Revealed: Chelsea man earning £400,000-a-week - more than...

Football Insider has been told Chelsea owner and chairman Todd Boelhy's mega-money salary to run the club on behalf of Clearlake.

I used to think Daniel Levy was a money grabbing bastard, and he's supposedly "only" on £6-7m, which in itself was by far the highest paid PL exec before BlueCo rocked up on the scene ...

Express.co.uk

Levy's eye-watering Tottenham salary towers over Man Utd...

Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is the best-paid club chief in the Premier League.

This is okay, it's all part of the Clearlake masterplan signed off by Evissy. They pay Boehly 4x the most expensive chief in the league for his insider American knowledge. Didn't you know Americans can do no wrong? Who are we, mere mortals, to question the plans of these Billionaires.

I haven't signed anything off. I am merely giving the plan a fighting chance. I know about the same as you guys from the inside which is close to nothing.

8 minutes ago, evissy said:

I haven't signed anything off. I am merely giving the plan a fighting chance. I know about the same as you guys from the inside which is close to nothing.

At which point surely you use the information available to you to judge something? i.e results on the pitch (consistently finishing outside of Europe), signings (majority are average or children), finances (1.5B leverages against the club, failure to secure a front of shirt sponsor for 2 seasons).

I just don't understand how you can watch consistent failure for 3 years and ask for patience.

So, not only taking nearly half a million per week out of the club, he's also pushing fans out of the club with his ticket touting agency. No wonder he doesnt want high earners about.

greedy fat yanktard. Just have to make sure he doesnt place his fat arse in a stamford bridge seat and jeer him and his family out the ground every home game.

2 hours ago, evissy said:

Why are you complicating everything? On purpose...You go lengths to make out our owners being evil money grabbing investors. They are investors yes but if you just look what being successful with the sport inside the club means for exposure and fabase..

Liverpool was not winning anything before Klopp and now that they have they are the first club to a ton of new potential fans/supporters/customers (pick your favourite of the semantics pool). It is much easier to sell Liverpool now when they are doing well on the football pitch.

Manchester United again is the perfect example. They have financial issues after years of horrible results. It is not by accident. Both Liverpool and MU are owned by American conglomerate of businessmen. How do Boehlys boys compare to those two is beyond me. Time will tell I guess.

I am sure the owners want:

Success on the balance sheets

Success on the football pitch

Because the two are heavily aligned.

United's financial issues are down to their American majority ownership, nothing to do with "'horrible" results. You must be aware of what has happened at United.

You gotta be on a wind up , nothing else can explain your comments

1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:

Boehly is apparently being paid FIFTEEN TO TWENTY MILLION POUNDS A YEAR !!!

Football Insider

Revealed: Chelsea man earning £400,000-a-week - more than...

Football Insider has been told Chelsea owner and chairman Todd Boelhy's mega-money salary to run the club on behalf of Clearlake.

I used to think Daniel Levy was a money grabbing bastard, and he's supposedly "only" on £6-7m, which in itself was by far the highest paid PL exec before BlueCo rocked up on the scene ...

Express.co.uk

Levy's eye-watering Tottenham salary towers over Man Utd...

Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is the best-paid club chief in the Premier League.

I wonder how much he gets on top of that from his touting activities at vivid seats.

2 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

At which point surely you use the information available to you to judge something? i.e results on the pitch (consistently finishing outside of Europe), signings (majority are average or children), finances (1.5B leverages against the club, failure to secure a front of shirt sponsor for 2 seasons).

I just don't understand how you can watch consistent failure for 3 years and ask for patience.

Have you noticed we just signed very young players? I am sure you have. So lets move on.

Have you ever seen a bunch of 20 Year olds win anything big especially in a grueling league like the worlds most competitive league Premier League. No you haven't so lets move on.

Knowing the answer to 2 of the previous questions have you ever seen a first year manager like Enzo Maresca is win in such circumstances? Probably not.

I feel making the CL would be a massive achievement which we still can achieve.

You have seen all the above unravel in front of your eyes so why do you think we could actually win something under these circumstances?

16 minutes ago, evissy said:

Have you noticed we just signed very young players? I am sure you have. So lets move on.

Have you ever seen a bunch of 20 Year olds win anything big especially in a grueling league like the worlds most competitive league Premier League. No you haven't so lets move on.

Knowing the answer to 2 of the previous questions have you ever seen a first year manager like Enzo Maresca is win in such circumstances? Probably not.

I feel making the CL would be a massive achievement which we still can achieve.

You have seen all the above unravel in front of your eyes so why do you think we could actually win something under these circumstances?

Yes i've noticed, that's half of our problem.

No i haven't, further proof of this not working. Are you arguing against yourself here?

Also no, because it doesn't work.

I don't think we'll ever win anything with a manager who's only success is marginally taking a Championship side with a Premier league level and experienced squad back to the Premier league.

Every single aspect of the rebuild is wrong. Youngsters aren't going to gain experience in an experience-less vacuum. I'm sure we'll be disagreeing about this 5 years down the line still.

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Yes i've noticed, that's half of our problem.

No i haven't, further proof of this not working. Are you arguing against yourself here?

Also no, because it doesn't work.

I don't think we'll ever win anything with a manager who's only success is marginally taking a Championship side with a Premier league level and experienced squad back to the Premier league.

Every single aspect of the rebuild is wrong. Youngsters aren't going to gain experience in an experience-less vacuum. I'm sure we'll be disagreeing about this 5 years down the line still.

So we just have a different view on "could it work" "it won't work". Most of the forum is on "it won't work". You basically can't argue against it because you don't have evidence of a massive club doing so. We have bought the "premium youngster" instead of the "Brighton level youngster".

1 minute ago, evissy said:

So we just have a different view on "could it work" "it won't work". Most of the forum is on "it won't work". You basically can't argue against it because you don't have evidence of a massive club doing so. We have bought the "premium youngster" instead of the "Brighton level youngster".

What have Brighton won? Lets not forget their squad is littered with experience and winners too with Milner, Welbeck, Veltman, Dunk, March etc. all 30+ and then Estupinan and Mitoma both crucial players in their prime at 27.

What experience do we have in our starting XI? Sanchez LMAO

19 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

What have Brighton won? Lets not forget their squad is littered with experience and winners too with Milner, Welbeck, Veltman, Dunk, March etc. all 30+ and then Estupinan and Mitoma both crucial players in their prime at 27.

What experience do we have in our starting XI? Sanchez LMAO

I am referring to their model of buying young players cheap. These gems hiding under the eyes of most and developing them to a brilliant players.

In 3-5 years all our current young players start to be in that age bracket. They are not named Milner, Dunk, Veltman or March but international players named Palmer, Enzo Fernandez, Moises Caicedo and Nicolas Jackson

9 minutes ago, evissy said:

I am referring to their model of buying young players cheap. These gems hiding under the eyes of most and developing them to a brilliant players.

In 3-5 years all our current young players start to be in that age bracket. They are not named Milner, Dunk, Veltman or March but international players named Palmer, Enzo Fernandez, Moises Caicedo and Nicolas Jackson

How much do you think Ugochukwu has developed? Or Chukwumeka? How much did Casadei develop with us? Datro Fofana? Wiley? Anselmino? Kellyman? Washington lmao. If we signed Ugochukwu for £5m like Guiu then great, easy flip. When we're spending £20m+ on multiple kids in the same position they just aren't going to develop.

in 3-5 years all those mentioned players will still have won nothing. Respect Milner too, multiple PL winner, CL winner and over 600 premier league appearances. We'd be lucky to have a player with his experience behind the scenes.

24 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

How much do you think Ugochukwu has developed? Or Chukwumeka? How much did Casadei develop with us? Datro Fofana? Wiley? Anselmino? Kellyman? Washington lmao. If we signed Ugochukwu for £5m like Guiu then great, easy flip. When we're spending £20m+ on multiple kids in the same position they just aren't going to develop.

in 3-5 years all those mentioned players will still have won nothing. Respect Milner too, multiple PL winner, CL winner and over 600 premier league appearances. We'd be lucky to have a player with his experience behind the scenes.

I don't want to drag Arsenal in this conversation but what have their players won? However they have been in the contention for Premier League (namely) and are in Champions league. That is the next step for us. We are still far away from those days

Casadei was sold on. Was one of the most coveted u20 players for Italy. We didn't have a place for him. Brighton never buys Casadei level name just to keep up the comparisons. But Casadei buy was unsuccessful as will be many others. Risky game.

1 minute ago, evissy said:

I don't want to drag Arsenal in this conversation but what have their players won? However they have been in the contention for Premier League (namely) and are in Champions league. That is the next step for us. We are still far away from those days

Casadei was sold on. Was one of the most coveted u20 players for Italy. We didn't have a place for him. Brighton never buys Casadei level name just to keep up the comparisons. But Casadei buy was unsuccessful as will be many others. Risky game.

Arsenal are a great example, i'm glad you brought them up.

When Arteta took over their squad was littered with winners and experience. David Luiz, Xhaka, Lacazette, Aubameyang. What has Arteta won since? What have any of his players won? Their most experienced player is on loan from us. A team of losers that win nothing. Should we celebrate coming runners up a couple of times in half a decade?

So all of those players i mentioned, how much have any of them developed?

Funny enough Arteta’s only trophy was a side built by Emery.

4 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Arsenal are a great example, i'm glad you brought them up.

When Arteta took over their squad was littered with winners and experience. David Luiz, Xhaka, Lacazette, Aubameyang. What has Arteta won since? What have any of his players won? Their most experienced player is on loan from us. A team of losers that win nothing. Should we celebrate coming runners up a couple of times in half a decade?

So all of those players i mentioned, how much have any of them developed?

Why would you bring up Anselminho? To contradict your own point? He was just added to our squad.

Guiu's done well considering he is very young and moved countries.

21 minutes ago, evissy said:

Why would you bring up Anselminho? To contradict your own point? He was just added to our squad.

Guiu's done well considering he is very young and moved countries.

Why are you ignoring every other player?

How many times has Anselmino played for the mens team since we recalled him nealy 4 months ago? This is part of the point about them not being developed...

Guiu was a good signing. Good upbringing in a top club and cost pennies. I mentioned him a few posts ago as the low risk signings we should be making in isolation to learn from experienced players. I wonder if he's learned much finishing from our number 1 striker...

3 hours ago, evissy said:

Have you noticed we just signed very young players? I am sure you have. So lets move on.

Have you ever seen a bunch of 20 Year olds win anything big especially in a grueling league like the worlds most competitive league Premier League. No you haven't so lets move on.

Knowing the answer to 2 of the previous questions have you ever seen a first year manager like Enzo Maresca is win in such circumstances? Probably not.

I feel making the CL would be a massive achievement which we still can achieve.

You have seen all the above unravel in front of your eyes so why do you think we could actually win something under these circumstances?

Well, who the f**k has created these circumstances, if not the very same people you keep defending here and telling everyone to give them a chance? You make it sound like they were forced to spend a fortune on dozens of unproven young players and tie them to long term contracts, keep hiring and sacking managers, not even getting a shirt sponsor and accepting failures on the pitch for the third season in a row? Whose fault is it then?

We're the laughingstock of the footballing world and it's down to these arrogant incompetent twats. Making the CL is a massive achievement? Really? After spending 1.5 billion in three years? By the way, we're not going to qualify for the CL yet again and we don't deserve to be playing among the Europe's elite anyway.

Edited March 21, 20251 yr by abramovich

Re signing millions of quid (150-200 mill at at least) worth of unknown youngsters including Omari Kellyman another player who it seems will never play for the 1st team but cost $ 19 mill...Have a butchers at this

BBC Sport

Chelsea transfers: Why are Blues stockpiling so many youn...

Chelsea have six deals for rising stars lined up and have just signed two more young talents from Portuguese side Sporting. Why? And how can they afford it?

4 hours ago, evissy said:

Why would you bring up Anselminho? To contradict your own point? He was just added to our squad.

Guiu's done well considering he is very young and moved countries.

LOL

2 hours ago, General said:

LOL

He didn't?

6 hours ago, abramovich said:

Well, who the f**k has created these circumstances, if not the very same people you keep defending here and telling everyone to give them a chance? You make it sound like they were forced to spend a fortune on dozens of unproven young players and tie them to long term contracts, keep hiring and sacking managers, not even getting a shirt sponsor and accepting failures on the pitch for the third season in a row? Whose fault is it then?

We're the laughingstock of the footballing world and it's down to these arrogant incompetent twats. Making the CL is a massive achievement? Really? After spending 1.5 billion in three years? By the way, we're not going to qualify for the CL yet again and we don't deserve to be playing among the Europe's elite anyway.

Everything is connected into time. Roman brought us the idea there is no time. We grew with the idea he comes with his purse and buys us out of problems. Don't you guys remember that? We were so lucky with him but his style meant you sacrificed with any type of progressive project. We didn't have projects, it was just the here and now. That meant it is the shiniest player or coach with premium money.

We are very conditioned to not give time to any squad or coach because we don't think there is time.

Problem with Roman's Chelsea was it was reactionary. In this climate today you need to be sharp, smart, ruthless and extremely lucky to win things.

Young young young

14 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Boehly is apparently being paid FIFTEEN TO TWENTY MILLION POUNDS A YEAR !!!

Football Insider

Revealed: Chelsea man earning £400,000-a-week - more than...

Football Insider has been told Chelsea owner and chairman Todd Boelhy's mega-money salary to run the club on behalf of Clearlake.

I used to think Daniel Levy was a money grabbing bastard, and he's supposedly "only" on £6-7m, which in itself was by far the highest paid PL exec before BlueCo rocked up on the scene ...

Express.co.uk

Levy's eye-watering Tottenham salary towers over Man Utd...

Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is the best-paid club chief in the Premier League.

Oh come on I brought this up ages ago about "chairman" Todd and how he gets 5 years then Egbhali gets 5, a cool 100mill each.

Well now I know nobody listens lol.