March 25, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, Bob stark said:Last season we finished 6th with 4th xgd. We were one of the best team outside the 3 title contenders (arse, city n pool).This season we are in similar situation.Yes and if we can pick up wins at the end of this season against teams already on the beach again we can a season makeover here as well, to cover up the shambolic mismanagement of everything within the club form top to bottom.
March 25, 20251 yr 46 minutes ago, evissy said:That I think is worst case scenario -material. If something was taken from Boehlys words he sees this venture as a very good one. His big problem seems to be he is not aligned with other owners or perhaps with Eghbali on the stadium.I think breaking FFP rules and getting sanctioned is much more likely. Which is naturally a possibility to each and every Premier League club.I think Chelsea in world perspective is viewed as an interesting thing. And hopefully more so in the not so distant future.And everything you are saying is best case scenario. Of course Boehly is never going to admit that he's bitten off more than he can chew. The blind are leading the blind.
March 25, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, WhiteWall said:Yes and if we can pick up wins at the end of this season against teams already on the beach again we can a season makeover here as well, to cover up the shambolic mismanagement of everything within the club form top to bottom.There is no shambolic mismanagement. This is the plan.BlueCo goal is to have a competitive team whie paying lower salary and they don't want to spend big transfer fee season after season. They have been pretty open about this.Are we competitive? We are currently 4th and last season we finished 6th only 5 pts from 4th after pretty much selling the whole squad and replace them with kids.How about winning title? 🤣🤣🤣🤣Last season i said we had the craziest squad for a top team. We basically sold everyone and replace them with kids.This season I said i would have gone all in on olise rather than signing neto and sancho and felix signing made no sense. But none of this suprise me. It is quite clear that on pitch performance is not the main goal. Our board want us to be a competitive but financial stuff is far more important for them. Edited March 25, 20251 yr by Bob stark
March 25, 20251 yr 49 minutes ago, Bob stark said:There is no shambolic mismanagement. This is the plan.I’m sure the plan isn’t to waste hundreds of millions on players only to want to get rid of them 8-12 months later.
March 25, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, Bob stark said:There is no shambolic mismanagement. This is the plan.BlueCo goal is to have a competitive team whie paying lower salary and they don't want to spend big transfer fee season after season. They have been pretty open about this.Are we competitive? We are currently 4th and last season we finished 6th only 5 pts from 4th after pretty much selling the whole squad and replace them with kids.How about winning title? 🤣🤣🤣🤣Last season i said we had the craziest squad for a top team. We basically sold everyone and replace them with kids.This season I said i would have gone all in on olise rather than signing neto and sancho and felix signing made no sense. But none of this suprise me. It is quite clear that on pitch performance is not the main goal. Our board want us to be a competitive but financial stuff is far more important for them.There's no way the board can confidently say this is their plan and they want to make money with the amount of money they've wasted.
March 25, 20251 yr 19 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:There's no way the board can confidently say this is their plan and they want to make money with the amount of money they've wasted.The benefit of the doubt could well be that this is indeed the plan, but with the standard BlueCo "piss poor" execution !
March 25, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, Bob stark said:There is no shambolic mismanagement. This is the plan.BlueCo goal is to have a competitive team whie paying lower salary and they don't want to spend big transfer fee season after season. They have been pretty open about this.Are we competitive? We are currently 4th and last season we finished 6th only 5 pts from 4th after pretty much selling the whole squad and replace them with kids.How about winning title? 🤣🤣🤣🤣Last season i said we had the craziest squad for a top team. We basically sold everyone and replace them with kids.This season I said i would have gone all in on olise rather than signing neto and sancho and felix signing made no sense. But none of this suprise me. It is quite clear that on pitch performance is not the main goal. Our board want us to be a competitive but financial stuff is far more important for them.The management of this business is absolutely and totally shambolic. They have leveraged 1.5bn against the club, buying players that have the most spurious levels of social media critiquing which is being overhyped as potential. They are yet to make any credible profit from this puppy farm player trading franchise, where the only players they have made money on they have inherited as free.Yesterday's England squad didn't have a single Chelsea player in it. We pander around after virtually every Man City academy graduate who were from the second best academy in the country. Meanwhile we dismantle all vestiges of our own academy system, serial winners and professional player makers for 20 years.These fantastic marketing and financial gurus that have come to little old backward Britain to teach us how to do things (oh and make the fans proud as well) are incapable of securing a front of shirt sponsor and are now stuck being unable to develop SB or move away to anew ground, this being one of the pillars of their original business plan.There are so many examples of cock ups and poor decisions, shady boardroom dealings and a complete undermining of all of the values that the club have held that yes, the mismanagement by these parasitic fking tossers has been shambolic. To the point that even if, by some miracle, they achieve a modicum of success with this particular model, the football is so horrendous that no fcker wants to watch them anyway.
March 26, 20251 yr 9 hours ago, WhiteWall said:Yesterday's England squad didn't have a single Chelsea player in it. We pander around after virtually every Man City academy graduate who were from the second best academy in the country. Meanwhile we dismantle all vestiges of our own academy system, serial winners and professional player makers for 20 years.I agree with a lot of what you said but didn't Reece James start and score for England? Colwill on the bench too.
March 26, 20251 yr 4 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:I agree with a lot of what you said but didn't Reece James start and score for England? Colwill on the bench too.I'm sorry that was a typo. I meant the England U21s. I was trying to illustrate the potential dying of our supply chain of pure profit free hitters. Less haste more speed, apologies.
March 26, 20251 yr 17 hours ago, WhiteWall said:The management of this business is absolutely and totally shambolic.They have leveraged 1.5bn against the club, buying players that have the most spurious levels of social media critiquing which is being overhyped as potential. They are yet to make any credible profit from this puppy farm player trading franchise, where the only players they have made money on they have inherited as free.Yesterday's England squad didn't have a single Chelsea player in it. We pander around after virtually every Man City academy graduate who were from the second best academy in the country. Meanwhile we dismantle all vestiges of our own academy system, serial winners and professional player makers for 20 years.These fantastic marketing and financial gurus that have come to little old backward Britain to teach us how to do things (oh and make the fans proud as well) are incapable of securing a front of shirt sponsor and are now stuck being unable to develop SB or move away to anew ground, this being one of the pillars of their original business plan.There are so many examples of cock ups and poor decisions, shady boardroom dealings and a complete undermining of all of the values that the club have held that yes, the mismanagement by these parasitic fking tossers has been shambolic. To the point that even if, by some miracle, they achieve a modicum of success with this particular model, the football is so horrendous that no fcker wants to watch them anyway.It is a f**king joke and no coincidence that so many CFC supporters have become detached from the club since the new owners took over.Think I have commented before but it's almost as if someone has a vendetta against us with all the shambolic decisions - haven't we currently got a Spurs supporter on our board of directors?"Let's really f**k Chelsea up. What are they crying out for? A top keeper and a striker? No, they can make do with Sanchez and Jackson. The supporters seem to love Gallagher so let's offload him and we'll sign that Felix that never does any good wherever he goes, and then send him on loan anyway. But to cap it all, let's get that clown Maresca to run the team. He'll play players out of position, keep under-performing players in the team and also get the side to play such a turgid style of football, everyone will be bored to tears so we won't need a new stadium as no-one will want to watch Chelsea anyway......................" Edited March 26, 20251 yr by Nibs
March 26, 20251 yr 50 minutes ago, Nibs said:It is a f**king joke and no coincidence that so many CFC supporters have become detached from the club since the new owners took over.Think I have commented before but it's almost as if someone has a vendetta against us with all the shambolic decisions - haven't we currently got a Spurs supporter on our board of directors?"Let's really f**k Chelsea up. What are they crying out for? A top keeper and a striker? No, they can make do with Sanchez and Jackson. The supporters seem to love Gallagher so let's offload him and we'll sign that Felix that never does any good wherever he goes, and then send him on loan anyway. But to cap it all, let's get that clown Maresca to run the team. He'll play players out of position, keep under-performing players in the team and also get the side to play such a turgid style of football, everyone will be bored to tears so we won't need a new stadium as no-one will want to watch Chelsea anyway......................"My inner conspiracy theorist says it is all part of the same plan to purge the club of any links to Roman Abramovich. Hence pandering to the "new" global fan base while simultaneously creating a set of conditions that cause the old guard fan base to have diminished interest.
March 26, 20251 yr Interesting development today : Chelsea Supporters' Trust has asked the Premier League to "act and investigate" co-owner Todd Boehly's involvement in ticket reselling website Vivid Seats.In an open letter to the league's chief executive Richard Masters, the group reiterates a past complaint that Boehly's involvement in Vivid Seats as a director and investor - while also owning a 13% stake in Chelsea - is a "breach of trust" and "a clear conflict of interest".Full article on BBC : https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cm2jm40419zo
March 26, 20251 yr On 25/03/2025 at 03:04, SydneyChelsea said:Problem is, that's been overstated. @Sexyfootball showed that Brighton are actually nowhere near as financially viable as people might think, and that their apparent recent success has almost solely been underwritten by Chelsea's recent spending. Take that unique circumstance out and Brighton are rarely profitable on any player, nor are they receiving as good a return on investment given the amount they are spending.We've seen the youth model before. Many people critiqued this under Emenalo, who invented the loan army as a way to skirt FFP. We've seen top clubs like Barcelona and Arsenal fail miserably with the 'youth approach', vastly overpaying for young talents who never perform and under-developing their academy talents (Barcelona) and in Arsenal's case post-Vieira, never looking a like competitive club to the point where all their best young players left to rivals for a paltry sum - Arsenal didn't even get 100m for Nasri, van Persie, Fabregas and Sanchez combined.I agree. But, we are actually continuing with the failed "youth" approach that you mention. Although it's not with our Academy youths, we are using youths from elsewhere instead, from other countries and cultures, and hoping somehow it will turn out more successful than the failed youth approach that is common.
March 26, 20251 yr Well Boehley's interview on Bloomberg in Hong Kong a few days ago revealed that he believes the club is worth more now than what it was bought for , despite our failure to get CL . ",The trend is our friend" he said...meaning that EPL club valuations are on an upward trend regardless.I had to eventually put subtitles on the make sure I heard him correctly when talking about building a new stadium and the problems it presents. He said this about it ... " We've got 16 to 20 years" . I don't know if there's any comments on here about that interview??
March 26, 20251 yr 13 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:Well Boehley's interview on Bloomberg in Hong Kong a few days ago revealed that he believes the club is worth more now than what it was bought for , despite our failure to get CL . ",The trend is our friend" he said...meaning that EPL club valuations are on an upward trend regardless.I had to eventually put subtitles on the make sure I heard him correctly when talking about building a new stadium and the problems it presents. He said this about it ... " We've got 16 to 20 years" . I don't know if there's any comments on here about that interview??"16 to 20 years" .... prison time 🤔 ?
March 26, 20251 yr 'part of the Boehly Bloomberg interview...." And I think that’s going to be we’re aligned or we ultimately decide to go our different ways.‘We have 16-20 years to sort out Chelsea. It’s really complex. It’s not as if we are building something in the middle of a rural environment.‘So we have a lot of constituencies to make sure we care about. Certainly the Chelsea fan base is one. But long-term, I think we’re going to be building something new, and we’ll figure it out."
March 26, 20251 yr So the CST has decided they have an issue with Todd controlling vivid seats eh?Took them long enough to stand up for the people they represent. Better late than never.How about all of you? Ready to see what these owners really are? Late? or never? Edited March 26, 20251 yr by axman2526
March 28, 20251 yr What Liam Twomey is saying is something I've tried to say in terms of what the plan is. He puts it nicely. Starting from around 9 minutes. Not sure if @SydneyChelsea trusts Liam any better than me on whether something has been done before or not but he is saying what I've tried to say since Blueco took over on the plan AND the sentiment that this has not done before on this scale. Harvesting youth is normal but the amount of youth and the level of youth is on our case is on a premium level. Edited March 28, 20251 yr by evissy
March 28, 20251 yr And Simon Johnson after Liams talk encapsulates his, fans', ex-players' sentiment on them wanting to see Chelsea win totally ignoring what the club has done in terms of player recruiting since the SD's came over (around mid-2023). Why is it so hard to look what has been done and what the expectation might be versus feelings of the formerly mentioned? He said it was much nicer to cover Chelsea when they won. Of course it was but can you in your right mind think we are winning with 20-year olds? Reality should be added to this talk. Separate feeling from the reality and it gets easier.
March 28, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, evissy said:And Simon Johnson after Liams talk encapsulates his, fans', ex-players' sentiment on them wanting to see Chelsea win totally ignoring what the club has done in terms of player recruiting since the SD's came over (around mid-2023). Why is it so hard to look what has been done and what the expectation might be versus feelings of the formerly mentioned? He said it was much nicer to cover Chelsea when they won. Of course it was but can you in your right mind think we are winning with 20-year olds? Reality should be added to this talk. Separate feeling from the reality and it gets easier.If you want to talk about "reality", let's have a look behind this line about 20 year olds.We have 30 players in our first team squad as it stands and only 8 of them are younger than 22. 6 of those 8 are younger than 21, and none of those 6 are getting many minutes, and some none at all (the 6 for the record are Acheampong,. George, Guiu, Amougou, Kellyman, and Anselmino). The team is relatively young in comparison to other teams, but it is not "a team of 20-year olds". The other "reality" is that BlueCo have spent £1.2 billion on players. That is an absolute colossal amount of money (the old adage is that a million seconds is 11 and a half days and a billion seconds is nearly 32 years, to emphasise exactly how huge a billion actually is). For that money we should be #1 in England, and in the Top 3 in Europe. To be bumping along where we have been in the last 3 years is insanely inept.
March 28, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, evissy said:And Simon Johnson after Liams talk encapsulates his, fans', ex-players' sentiment on them wanting to see Chelsea win totally ignoring what the club has done in terms of player recruiting since the SD's came over (around mid-2023). Why is it so hard to look what has been done and what the expectation might be versus feelings of the formerly mentioned? He said it was much nicer to cover Chelsea when they won. Of course it was but can you in your right mind think we are winning with 20-year olds? Reality should be added to this talk. Separate feeling from the reality and it gets easier.If you're saying " who in their right minds think we are winning with 20 year olds" . That's the problem. We've invested record amounts to produce a team that by your own logic we shouldn't expect to see winning anything. I don't believe our owners would have bought any other successful business and then sack the staff and then with no experience of that business try to run it themselves.It was arrogant, and disrespectful to every Chelsea fan to watch them " learning from mistakes" " learning on the job" as if they were kids on work experience etc etc.. As if it didn't matter as long as they were enjoying the ride while f**king up our football club. .
March 28, 20251 yr Standards ... as Mr Minerals is fond of saying !The Premier League All Time Table during Roman's Tenure :And the All Time Premier League Table before Abramovich arrived :So we've basically been at the top table for over 30 years.And then BlueCo arrived on the scene ...1992/93 to 2002/03 4th2003/04 to 2021/22 1st2022/23 to 2024/25 9thTo spend £1.2 billion on players to drop from 1st to 9th is some achievement LOL.Attaboy Todd and Eghbali ! You really showed us ... 🤠 🤡 Edited March 28, 20251 yr by Sexyfootball
March 28, 20251 yr You spend 1.5 billion then top 4 is bare minimum tbh, that's how I feel about it. I would expect Forest, Newcastle, Brighton, Fulham, Villa and Bournemouth fans to think the same if their clubs spent the same, by the way these are the clubs we are fighting for top 4 but spend much better.We don't have a team of 20 year olds thrown in at the deep end, players like Sancho, Cucurella, Neto, Jackson, KDH, Nkunku, Jackson and co are just not good enough. Most players in the squad now have years of prem experience.
March 28, 20251 yr 37 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:You spend 1.5 billion then top 4 is bare minimum tbh, that's how I feel about it. I would expect Forest, Newcastle, Brighton, Fulham, Villa and Bournemouth fans to think the same if their clubs spent the same, by the way these are the clubs we are fighting for top 4 but spend much better.We don't have a team of 20 year olds thrown in at the deep end, players like Sancho, Cucurella, Neto, Jackson, KDH, Nkunku, Jackson and co are just not good enough. Most players in the squad now have years of prem experience.1,5bn talk is the media talk. They are so superficial there is no sense. It is a fact but if most of the players bought with that amount is about 18-20 instead of what it used to be under Roman.Cucurellas been one of our Best players this season and he is one of the senior players at 26. Liverpools senior player is Virgil VanDijk. Sancho was no brainer business deal.Neto's first year Chelsea player and for me been okay. Jackson easily our best striker.KHD Maresca player that was never quality we want but came with the Coach. I don't like him or anything of him.Nkunku was Boehly/Eghbali buy. Just like Koulibaly and Sterling. Before SD's.
March 29, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, evissy said:1,5bn talk is the media talk. They are so superficial there is no sense. It is a fact but if most of the players bought with that amount is about 18-20 instead of what it used to be under Roman.Cucurellas been one of our Best players this season and he is one of the senior players at 26. Liverpools senior player is Virgil VanDijk.Sancho was no brainer business deal.Neto's first year Chelsea player and for me been okay.Jackson easily our best striker.KHD Maresca player that was never quality we want but came with the Coach. I don't like him or anything of him.Nkunku was Boehly/Eghbali buy. Just like Koulibaly and Sterling. Before SD's."Jackson our best striker" 😭😭.. About the 21st best in the Premier league
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