I must admit, I don't remember him saying anything like this at the time ??

"This is a matter of years before anything is realized. When we originally bought the club, we agreed we had 15 to 20 years to solve this issue, but it's a huge project in a really interesting city like London, where many stakeholders have a voice, Boehly said."

11 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

I must admit, I don't remember him saying anything like this at the time ??

"This is a matter of years before anything is realized. When we originally bought the club, we agreed we had 15 to 20 years to solve this issue, but it's a huge project in a really interesting city like London, where many stakeholders have a voice, Boehly said."

If that means the stadium is up and running at 15 year mark I think they have done okay. That would mean they have about 12-17 years. Permits will always take years to go through. Planning and building as well.

Btw just watched the brilliant Rock'n Rolla movie by Guy Ritchie once again. They have depicted a version of Roman in that movie and his struggles to get the building going. A great watch that movie! 💪

11 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

Every thing was ready to go, there were no obstacles to it being built. .It had gone through all the planning, and overcome all the objections. Then his visa renewal ran into problems after the Salisbury poisonings and wasn't renewed . That's when I think he decided not to proceed, or he had doubts about proceeding. Then his club was sold.

Without that, there was nothing at all preventing the new stadium being built. .

So he also had problems which meant the stadium couldnt get built, thats the point. He had tried for several years, been through a few different options, tried to but an old power station, other land, and yet still took him years to get close to building a new stadium. Which he never got to do, because of problems.

Building anything of size in the UK takes time, building a sports stadium takes even longer. Building one in the heart of London eve longer and longer and longer...

15 years is extreme, I grant you. But 5-10 years from preliminary design to cutting the ribbon wouldn't be a surprise in the slightest.

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There’s a car park by us ( a council one) that has a sign up which reads :

“ Have you paid and displayed? Penalty £60” My wife approached a friend of hers who is a local councillor who in their portfolio has responsibility for car parks.

My wife , who has a degree in English ( unlike me ) asked if they , the council, really did mean if you have paid & displayed you could be issued with a fine. The response was that’s not what is meant.

My point is yes Bohley said “When we originally bought the club, we agreed we had 15 to 20 years to solve this issue”

Does that mean what we think or is there another interpretation?

My wife bless her suggested that there was at least one other way that communication could be viewed and that isn’t that the timeline line to build the stadium is 15-20 years only that it had the owners said that they had to resolve the issue before a period which stretched between 15-20 years.

Isn’t that one and the same you could ask ? Well actually the more I think about it ..I will pay my car park ticket and get a fine !

Edited July 10, 20251 yr by terraloon

5 hours ago, dkw said:

So he also had problems which meant the stadium couldnt get built, thats the point. He had tried for several years, been through a few different options, tried to but an old power station, other land, and yet still took him years to get close to building a new stadium. Which he never got to do, because of problems.

Building anything of size in the UK takes time, building a sports stadium takes even longer. Building one in the heart of London eve longer and longer and longer...

15 years is extreme, I grant you. But 5-10 years from preliminary design to cutting the ribbon wouldn't be a surprise in the slightest.

Hello

I understand that. There's always problems with large constructions, especially in a built up area like ours . Yes, it takes years to overcome all those obstacles, which we did. and eventually we got permission to go ahead. . It wasn't even started, not because there was a problem with the design, etc etc, but for unrelated issues.

Now this lot who promised in the bid to address the Stadium issues and supposedly had the money set aside to do so are telling us it's 16-20 years down the line to "figure it out"...which to be honest, suits me just fine !

25 minutes ago, terraloon said:

There’s a car park by us ( a council one) that has a sign up which reads :

“ Have you paid and displayed? Penalty £60” My wife approached a friend of hers who is a local councillor who in their portfolio has responsibility for car parks.

My wife , who has a degree in English ( unlike me ) asked if they , the council, really did mean if you have paid & displayed you could be issued with a fine. The response was that’s not what is meant.

My point is yes Bohley said “When we originally bought the club, we agreed we had 15 to 20 years to solve this issue”

Does that mean what we think or is there another interpretation?

My wife bless her suggested that there was at least one other way that communication could be viewed and that isn’t that the timeline line to build the stadium is 15-20 years only that it had the owners said that they had to resolve the issue before a period which stretched between 15-20 years.

Isn’t that one and the same you could ask ? Well actually the more I think about it ..I will pay my car park ticket and get a fine !

I think that car park sign interpretation comes under " what a reasonable person would understand it meant" . I'm not saying your wife is unreasonable!

😂

3 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Hello

I understand that. There's always problems with large constructions, especially in a built up area like ours . Yes, it takes years to overcome all those obstacles, which we did. and eventually we got permission to go ahead. . It wasn't even started, not because there was a problem with the design, etc etc, but for unrelated issues.

Now this lot who promised in the bid to address the Stadium issues and supposedly had the money set aside to do so are telling us it's 16-20 years down the line to "figure it out"...which to be honest, suits me just fine !

Someone needs to be held accountable, what was the bloody point in the bidding process if nothing promised within in are being followed through on.

Your right this was supposed to be all part of the bidding business plan as was the 1.5b which RA wrote off to be invested over 10yrs. It was supposed to be their own money not borrowed in the clubs name.

If they ever do get around to building it we’ll have a huge mortgage on it and that was never supposed to be the deal.

Scammers.

1 hour ago, The Rising Sun said:

I think that car park sign interpretation comes under " what a reasonable person would understand it meant" . I'm not saying your wife is unreasonable!

😂

And I am not brave enough to even think it !

22 hours ago, dkw said:

And yet even Roman with all his money and influence couldn't get the stadium going either and had given up on it.

Wasn't this only when the government started sticking their noses in? We had plans and were pushing forward before that.

1 hour ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Wasn't this only when the government started sticking their noses in? We had plans and were pushing forward before that.

Partially, the statement put out said they pulled the building due to prices rising, current economic aroind his visa.

But the process for a new stadium had started years earlier, loads of problems.

The Independent

Roman Abramovich's Chelsea stadium rebuild faces being bl...

Nicolas Crosthwaite and his family say the new £1bn stadium would block the light at their £4m Chelsea home, and are refusing to back down - despite the local council voting in favour of a compulso...

For example.

Tottenham stadium took nearly 10 years from start to finish, and they had a lot less problems than ours will be due to location.

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2 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Wasn't this only when the government started sticking their noses in? We had plans and were pushing forward before that.

Roman owned the club over 20 years. Even though his best efforts we have no new stadium. New guys probably have another type of plan for the stadium. If they manage to open that in 12-15 years they've done okay as I said before.

55 minutes ago, evissy said:

Roman owned the club over 20 years.

It’s a bit silly to use the whole of Roman’s tenure as a stick to beat him with, seeing as the last part of the Bridge redevelopment was only finished 2 years before he bought the club!

It also wasn’t ‘owned by Roman over 20 years’ so that AI might need some tweaking!

Price rises!!! You think these people have never heard of the futures market.

24 minutes ago, Mod said:

It’s a bit silly to use the whole of Roman’s tenure as a stick to beat him with, seeing as the last part of the Bridge redevelopment was only finished 2 years before he bought the club!

It also wasn’t ‘owned by Roman over 20 years’ so that AI might need some tweaking!

Not using it to beat Roman. Just some context on the old 'these news guys are horrible' song which in on repeat here.

19 years. Sorry for the mistake on that. Pretty close though.

3 hours ago, evissy said:

Not using it to beat Roman. Just some context on the old 'these news guys are horrible' song which in on repeat here.

19 years. Sorry for the mistake on that. Pretty close though.

The difference is that Abramovich was starting from scratch. He first had to get us competitive at the top and keep us there, then he built one of the best youth academies in the game, the stadium plans were slowly getting there before he was banned from the country. The new owners weren't in the same position, they had the tools in place from day 1.

4 hours ago, Scott Harris said:

The difference is that Abramovich was starting from scratch. He first had to get us competitive at the top and keep us there, then he built one of the best youth academies in the game, the stadium plans were slowly getting there before he was banned from the country. The new owners weren't in the same position, they had the tools in place from day 1.

Tools to build the stadium? Not sure that is the case. I don't know the details on permits and all that but is sure looks tricky to move on with the planning. I don't slag off Roman's efforts one bit. Just saying this whole new stadium business for us seems to be a bit of a nightmare.

I also get it Blueco wants to plan everything like they see fit for the stadium. If they put 3bn on a new stadium or something along the lines they bloody well should.

Should have brought in Luis Enrique instead of Poch and brought in Campos instead of Winstanley. We could have been on the same level as this year's PSG

12 hours ago, evissy said:

Tools to build the stadium? Not sure that is the case. I don't know the details on permits and all that but is sure looks tricky to move on with the planning. I don't slag off Roman's efforts one bit. Just saying this whole new stadium business for us seems to be a bit of a nightmare.

I also get it Blueco wants to plan everything like they see fit for the stadium. If they put 3bn on a new stadium or something along the lines they bloody well should.

Not tools to build the stadium, but an entire club that was pretty much settled. Instead of directing their focus on ripping up the entire club and starting over, they could have directed immediate plans on a new stadium.

20 hours ago, C3blue said:

Price rises!!! You think these people have never heard of the futures market.

No one predicted Covid, which was a big reason the rise in prices.

12 hours ago, evissy said:

Tools to build the stadium? Not sure that is the case. I don't know the details on permits and all that but is sure looks tricky to move on with the planning. I don't slag off Roman's efforts one bit. Just saying this whole new stadium business for us seems to be a bit of a nightmare.

I also get it Blueco wants to plan everything like they see fit for the stadium. If they put 3bn on a new stadium or something along the lines they bloody well should.

Although it's " tricky" we got past all that and got the go ahead for a new stadium.. plenty of clubs have built new stadiums or upgraded their present stadiums . Even in London..

And we know it's possible for Chelsea to achieve permission to do it too by past experience on this subject

But it's not going to happen if they don't even make the effort and moan about how difficult it would be.

13 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

No one predicted Covid, which was a big reason the rise in prices.

That’s the point of the futures mkt. you lock in the price. Hello!

Unforeseen costs.

In fact when u need the material failure to make money trading futures is a crime.

6 minutes ago, C3blue said:

In fact when u need the material failure to make money trading futures is a crime.

If CFC hasn’t made a fortune on this someone needs sacking. How on earth could you have locked in a stadium at that price years ago. They must be long of everything, copper, Ali, zinc. If they had any brains they would have made millions by just pricing up a stadium.

Maybe that’s what they have done. Cashed in positions.