4 hours ago, bisright1 said:

 

That's still 500k revenue per game...bearing in mind the average attendance of a PL game is roughly 40k anyway I think this might end up staying.

500k split two ways between the two team, minus Sky/BTs cut for the "expenses". 

So your left with a week's wages for one of your players. Is that worthwhile for how much this move has clearly annoyed and alienated the fans?

I can't see this continuing in its current format/price point for much longer. 

1 hour ago, ForeverCarefree said:

500k split two ways between the two team, minus Sky/BTs cut for the "expenses". 

So your left with a week's wages for one of your players. Is that worthwhile for how much this move has clearly annoyed and alienated the fans?

I can't see this continuing in its current format/price point for much longer. 

Well I imagine that 500k is for the games with less appeal. So you are talking about Shef United or Burnley getting likely £100k for one game they otherwise were not getting. Pretty sure they will be happy with that. (Huddersfield generated £5m in gate revenue when they were in the PL...divide that by the ~22 home games they had that year and they were only generating £260k revenue per game with costs likely to be much higher than the PPV.

For a Chelsea game the revenue will likely be 3 times that and again, we aren't going to turn down an extra £300k for one game of football, even if it alienates some fans. We were only making about £1.5-2m per game when fans were allowed in - and that again is with greater costs.

If it drops to £5 or £10 I see them making a similar amount of money overall as the take up would be higher so I imagine that will be the change that is made. I'm not bothered by them doing it, I just won't partake. However I don't believe that it will be cancelled and not replaced with something that generates as much revenue. 

Edited October 28, 20205 yr by bisright1

6 hours ago, Andy North said:

I'm 59 Driller. I went to my first game in the 1970/71 season at 9 years of age. It cost 3 shillings for juniors to get in. We had a black and white television and I was amazed at how green the pitch was when I got to the top of the stairs of the Bovril entrance. The game was the first league match at the Bridge after we had won the FA Cup the previous season. We played Derby County and Ian Hutchinson scored both goals in a 2-1 victory. Decimalization happened later in the season and in the new fangled money it cost 15p to get in. Adults 30p.

I was transfixed from day one and we went on to win the Cup Winners Cup later that season. I had started supporting the best team in the world and they were winning silverware every season. The world was great and the fashions were superb, it was the time of the original Skinheads and button down shirts, tonic suits and brogues were the go. The club was even planning on building a whole new stadium. The following season we reached the League Cup Final at Wembley and I got tickets. The atmosphere inside Wembley before the game was the most exciting thing I had ever witnessed and the way the fans were that day stayed with me for a long time. Mainly because we didn't get anywhere near winning anything for decades after that.

Incredible! Amazing that you still have such a vivid memory of something so long ago.

Just makes you think how commercialized and sh*t the game has turned in the past decade or so compared with bygone era's

21 hours ago, One Tommy Langley said:

Hello Driller

i must have been about 14/15 when i started going on my own , 1973 ish think i remember it being around 80p in at the Shed- but i could be wrong

 

Still an insane price, I wish there was some sort of yearly ticket price thing that someone has to compare how the prices have steadily been increasing in the past 40 years.

1 hour ago, driller97 said:

Incredible! Amazing that you still have such a vivid memory of something so long ago.

Just makes you think how commercialized and sh*t the game has turned in the past decade or so compared with bygone era's

I remembered we beat Derby and the year but had to look up who scored the goals. It was commercial in 1970 but not in the same way it is now. 

Its not all bad now. We pay more but the players are better. The loss of atmosphere is the worst thing. 

2 hours ago, driller97 said:

Still an insane price, I wish there was some sort of yearly ticket price thing that someone has to compare how the prices have steadily been increasing in the past 40 years.

my first game was sept 7th 1968 ( my 9th birthday ) V Everton 1-1 Osgood pen my dad took me and we went through to the benches but i dont remember the costs as i wasnt paying - ive recently manage to get a dvd of the highlights which is a nice keepsake. 

I would argue that they should make the game free to air and add some additional sponsorship that goes to the clubs (maybe even the dreaded American style popup banners in replays) but the channels would just use that as a pilot for adding them to all games.

26 minutes ago, abigsmurf said:

I would argue that they should make the game free to air and add some additional sponsorship that goes to the clubs (maybe even the dreaded American style popup banners in replays) but the channels would just use that as a pilot for adding them to all games.

Which wouldn't make anywhere near as much money 

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020/10/27/exceptionally-low-english-premier-league-ppv-figures-could-cause-u-turn/

Edited October 29, 20205 yr by Brutos

PPV model is due to be scrapped after the November International break due to the low viewing figures and universal backlash from fans. 

49 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

PPV model is due to be scrapped after the November International break due to the low viewing figures and universal backlash from fans. 

Source: Dude, trust me. 
 

9 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

Source: Dude, trust me. 

Source was The Athletic, no point linking to it because most of you peasants are too cheap to cough up the subscription fee. 

 

32 minutes ago, ForeverCarefree said:

Source was The Athletic, no point linking to it because most of you peasants are too cheap to cough up the subscription fee. 

 

Well you could have linked it for me you lazy bastard!

Don't share it!  I'm one of the fools paying $7 a month for a handful of articles - didn't get any of that £1 a month malarkey!

Anyway, what will happen in the absence of PPV?  It's not going to be free, so does that mean no incremental games on tv?  Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face - atleast people had a choice before!  If you didn't like it, don't buy it.  Simple. 

 

10 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

If you didn't like it, don't buy it.  Simple.

People didn’t like it, people didn’t buy it and because there’s no money in it they’re not going to bother with it anymore. 

18 minutes ago, Munkworth said:

People didn’t like it, people didn’t buy it and because there’s no money in it they’re not going to bother with it anymore. 

Back to Ceefax updates!

On 29/10/2020 at 23:53, Brutos said:

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2020/10/27/exceptionally-low-english-premier-league-ppv-figures-could-cause-u-turn/

No surprises there. Middle of a pandemic that has killed the economy and meant a lot of football fans are doing it tough. Let's see how many sign up to a silly PPV arrangement. 

The utter greed and idiocy of these executives never ceases to amaze me. 

Ok it’s on the BBC now, you’re off the hook this time @ForeverCarefree

7 hours ago, Spiller86 said:

No surprises there. Middle of a pandemic that has killed the economy and meant a lot of football fans are doing it tough. Let's see how many sign up to a silly PPV arrangement. 

The utter greed and idiocy of these executives never ceases to amaze me. 

Charging for a product is not greed.  Should everything be free?  I get the pandemic and hard times, but these matches were never scheduled for tv.  Unfortunately fans are unable to attend, but an alternate was provided.  I struggle to see how any tv license or subscription should cover this incremental cost.  

To me its disappointing that people who enjoy being able to see there team play, and were willing to pay, lost that opportunity.      

13 minutes ago, PhilH930 said:

Charging for a product is not greed.  Should everything be free?  I get the pandemic and hard times, but these matches were never scheduled for tv.  Unfortunately fans are unable to attend, but an alternate was provided.  I struggle to see how any tv license or subscription should cover this incremental cost.  

To me its disappointing that people who enjoy being able to see there team play, and were willing to pay, lost that opportunity.      

Sure. But if I am paying 15 a month to watch every PL game plus the CL and a bunch of others in Australia. The idea of paying 15 pounds to watch a single game not selected for broadcast in the UK is silly. It's again the PL gouging fans. 

8 hours ago, PhilH930 said:

Charging for a product is not greed.  Should everything be free?  I get the pandemic and hard times, but these matches were never scheduled for tv.  Unfortunately fans are unable to attend, but an alternate was provided.  I struggle to see how any tv license or subscription should cover this incremental cost.  

To me its disappointing that people who enjoy being able to see there team play, and were willing to pay, lost that opportunity.      

It's not free, I already pay quite a bit to get BTsports and SkySports on top of my monthly box subscription, and they want me to pay extra £15 per game of my team? If Chelsea TV had the rights to Chelsea's games and was available in my Virgin Media, I would probably not subscribe to BTSports and SkySports and give my money directly to the Club, as I do with my membership and when I go to the games.

Edited November 6, 20205 yr by RMH

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54932314

Bloody hell, and Commissar Cummings has only been gone for five minutes!

Can we band together and take down BT next?