6 minutes ago, Phillip said:

Please clarify something for me.  In tennis, that would be ‘out’ since no part of the ball is touching the line, even though the curvature of the ball is such that the extreme left part of the ball is ‘directly above’ the right edge of the line.

what is the rule in football?

 

It's always been the whole ball including the curvature for as long as i can remember in football, it's never been about touching the line.

No we dont want Messi to win it, pundits are so far detached from the real fans.

3 minutes ago, coco said:

No we dont want Messi to win it, pundits are so far detached from the real fans.

Thiago is winning it or we riot. 

1 minute ago, Munkworth said:

Thiago is winning it or we riot. 

They think the World wants Messi to win it, when we all know most people want the socceroos to beat him.

Could the Argies win this as a one man team again?

This Argentina team isn't up to much really,  I was looking forward to seeing them after all the race reviews, but very disappointing.

fans are terrific though.

Oops! A gift from the Aussies just now

 

 

28 minutes ago, charierre said:

Could the Argies win this as a one man team again?

Not with this version of Messi, no where near the late great Maradona

Enzo is class 

3 minutes ago, The Rising Sun said:

Not with this version of Messi, no where near the late great Maradona

Be interesting to see how they perform when under pressure. Easy to look good when there’s little pressure on the ball. Without Messi zero chance but with him, who knows?

36 minutes ago, charierre said:

Could the Argies win this as a one man team again?

Far from a one man team. This Argentina side is superior to the 2014-2020 team.  Relying on Messi far less. 

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3 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Far from a one man team. This Argentina side is superior to the 2014-2020 team.  Relying on Messi far less. 

As I said I’ll judge them better when they’ve played against a team who challenges them. Take Messi out and I really don’t see them winning it, very similar to the 86 Argies. 

Mat Ryan learned that one from our own Mendy.

1 minute ago, charierre said:

As I said I’ll judge them better when they’ve played against a team who challenges them. Take Messi out and I really don’t see them winning it, very similar to the 86 Argies. 

I mean they did beat Brazil quite convincingly in the Copa America final with Messi being hardly involved. 
 

Also the 86’-91’ Argentina team was one of the most well drilled international sides in history. Really dislike this ‘one man team’ talk. 

1 minute ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I mean they did beat Brazil quite convincingly in the Copa America final with Messi being hardly involved. 
 

Also the 86’-91’ Argentina team was one of the most well drilled international sides in history. Really dislike this ‘one man team’ talk. 

86 was a one man team no question!

5 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Far from a one man team. This Argentina side is superior to the 2014-2020 team. 

Superior to the team that reached a World Cup Final ?

wow ! Aussie goal !

Just now, The Rising Sun said:

Superior to the team that reached a World Cup Final ?

wow ! Aussie goal !

It can work that way in knockout comps.

Almost all of the Romans (and probably the 7 years prior aswell) were better than the 2012 team.

1 minute ago, charierre said:

86 was a one man team no question!

Disagree. That narrative is rather disingenuous. 

3 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I mean they did beat Brazil quite convincingly in the Copa America final with Messi being hardly involved. 
 

Also the 86’-91’ Argentina team was one of the most well drilled international sides in history. Really dislike this ‘one man team’ talk. 

Not only was the Argentine '86 a one man team  ,so were Napoli when he was there

Pathetic, nothing wrong with half these challenges, ref falling for the Argie dramatics.

Argentina look very average and very nervous and chaotic 

4 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Disagree. That narrative is rather disingenuous. 

Without Maradona they don’t beat us

4 minutes ago, Argo said:

It can work that way in knockout comps.

Almost all of the Romans (and probably the 7 years prior aswell) were better than the 2012 team.

I can't see this team as being superior in any way at all. Very disappointing tbh. I was hoping for more.

I think the one man team phrase is wildly overused. Barca were supposedly that but Spain (effectively Barca without Messi) won 3 tournaments on the spin.