1 minute ago, Womble said:

Even of Arsenal were down to 10 men they would still play with the same intensity!

100% every time they went down to 10 last season, they still tried to win the game.

People can get on Arteta for coming 2nd but at least they always try and win games and keep up the pressure when behind.

how’s that handball not a pen is beyond

Just now, mojo said:

how’s that handball not a pen is beyond

Because it ricochets onto his arm from his own shin. It's a stupid rule in my opinion. It should be a penalty when you are blocking a cross with your arm that high in the air.

2 minutes ago, KonaKai Blue said:

100% every time they went down to 10 last season, they still tried to win the game.

People can get on Arteta for coming 2nd but at least they always try and win games and keep up the pressure when behind.

Revisionist history is amazing.

I know we are on Maresca's back atm and rightfully so but Arteta just a couple of weeks ago was cirticized by everyone what a coward he is starting a derby with 8 defensive players...

1 hour ago, charierre said:

Sanchez last week touched the ball and cleaned the player out, sent off. This week Pope touched the ball and cleaned the player out…

1 hour ago, STATS said:

Pope got a touch on the ball, which is difference. More debatable is how did Collins for Brentford not get sent off and what was VAR's reasoning.

I said from beginning of the season, Arsenal will win the league. Liverpool I think struggle in January when AFCON is on. Arsenal won the game late, but even over 90 mins they were the better team and looked good. Liverpool, I don't think win that game at SJP earlier in season if Gordon was not sent off. Their depth is really good too. I think come end of season, they will win the league comfortably. Hate to say it.

6 minutes ago, charierre said:

Wow. Did not realise this. That is infuriating. I think the Pope decision was the right one, but yeah the two are very similar, so if that is case, why was Sanchez sent off. Just seems selective this VAR. No consistency.

49 minutes ago, Ledg said:

Revisionist history is amazing.

I know we are on Maresca's back atm and rightfully so but Arteta just a couple of weeks ago was cirticized by everyone what a coward he is starting a derby with 8 defensive players...

Thats because people like to criticise everything, expecting you to be perfect every week. Clearly Arteta is the one laughing now after only losing one game away at Anfield.

25 minutes ago, charierre said:

Hmm, i did not know Sanchez got the ball at all, nevermind first.

VAR should have seen it and overturned the red

1 hour ago, charierre said:

Sanchez was a knee high tackle. Kind of irrelevant that he got the ball when the tackle itself would be a red card for any outfield player.

Just now, Scott Harris said:

Sanchez was a knee high tackle. Kind of irrelevant that he got the ball when the tackle itself would be a red card for any outfield player.

He was sent off for denial of a goal scoring opportunity

2 hours ago, Caps_Lock_King said:

Arsenal wont get a better chance of winning it this year

Yep, it's theirs to lose. They look the most consistent side right now and by some distance. Makes me sick!

Milan beat Napoli, and did so with 10 men for 36 mins (and a 40 year old Modric in the middle).

KDB looks a mistake now, and his presence is stifling McTominay. Conte has been going for a 4-1-4-1 type thing instead of 433, they’re slower now. Lukaku being out isn’t ideal, Hojlund, despite his past at Atalanta still looks ruined.

I understand the temptation to go for someone like KDB, especially in Serie A, but it just looks like they’re fitting him in, rather than it be a natural squad building move.

13 hours ago, charierre said:

He was sent off for denial of a goal scoring opportunity

It's still a red card though because a knee high tackle is a foul even if you get the ball first. And because he was the last man, it's still a denial of a goalscoring opportunity. If Sanchez's tackle was lower, then we would have something to complain about.

15 hours ago, charierre said:

He was sent off for denial of a goal scoring opportunity

He was lucky then, because he should have been sent of for a knee high studs up foul. The imbecile.

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

It's still a red card though because a knee high tackle is a foul even if you get the ball first. And because he was the last man, it's still a denial of a goalscoring opportunity. If Sanchez's tackle was lower, then we would have something to complain about.

One though carries a one match ban the other 3. The referee didn’t consider the dangerous challenge or if he did he decided against it, confirmed by VAR. The dangerous challenge challenge usurps the denial charge. Hence poor officiating.

Annoying to see Arsenal get a late winner up at Newcastle, seems so long since we won up there.

1 hour ago, charierre said:

One though carries a one match ban the other 3. The referee didn’t consider the dangerous challenge or if he did he decided against it, confirmed by VAR. The dangerous challenge challenge usurps the denial charge. Hence poor officiating.

Whether the ref feels the severity of the tackle warranted a red card or not doesn't really matter. The bare minimum for a knee high tackle is a foul. In this case, he thought Sanchez's tackle was a foul at most, but because it was a foul at all, it had to be a red card because he stopped a goalscoring opportunity.

There's no point in us trying to claim a lack of consistency here, because Sanchez's tackle and Pope's tackle were completely different.

14 minutes ago, Scott Harris said:

Whether the ref feels the severity of the tackle warranted a red card or not doesn't really matter. The bare minimum for a knee high tackle is a foul. In this case, he thought Sanchez's tackle was a foul at most, but because it was a foul at all, it had to be a red card because he stopped a goalscoring opportunity.

There's no point in us trying to claim a lack of consistency here, because Sanchez's tackle and Pope's tackle were completely different.

It does though, Scott, the offence was given as the one game ban. The height of the tackle clouds the issue as it was disregarded by the referee, otherwise the offence would have been upgraded by the FA. Those are facts. So the touch comes into play as it did yesterday, Sanchez touch was I think quite rightly overruled and he was sent off accordingly. I also think that the Pope touch should have been overruled and a penalty awarded. Both taken into context are the same offence, as I state the height of the tackle by Sanchez was immaterial as that wasn't given and as so becomes subjective.

6 minutes ago, charierre said:

It does though, Scott, the offence was given as the one game ban. The height of the tackle clouds the issue as it was disregarded by the referee, otherwise the offence would have been upgraded by the FA. Those are facts. So the touch comes into play as it did yesterday, Sanchez touch was I think quite rightly overruled and he was sent off accordingly. I also think that the Pope touch should have been overruled and a penalty awarded. Both taken into context are the same offence, as I state the height of the tackle by Sanchez was immaterial as that wasn't given and as so becomes subjective.

While the Sanchez foul was worse I agree they are in the same ball park seeing that Sanchez didn’t get a 3 match ban. There’s no way the 2 offences are polar opposites in that one is a red card and the other isn’t even a foul.

As much as I dislike Arsenal that should not have been overruled and the penalty should have stood if the PGMOL have a criteria for goalkeepers fouling attackers.

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5 minutes ago, charierre said:

It does though, Scott, the offence was given as the one game ban. The height of the tackle clouds the issue as it was disregarded by the referee, otherwise the offence would have been upgraded by the FA. Those are facts. So the touch comes into play as it did yesterday, Sanchez touch was I think quite rightly overruled and he was sent off accordingly. I also think that the Pope touch should have been overruled and a penalty awarded. Both taken into context are the same offence, as I state the height of the tackle by Sanchez was immaterial as that wasn't given and as so becomes subjective.

The height of the tackle wasn't disregarded though, the simple fact that a foul was given proves that. Like I said, not all knee high challenges are deemed a red card, but every single one of them is a foul, which is why Sanchez wasn't sent off for reckless challenge but was for being the last man. Sanchez's tackle was a foul because he's caught Mbeumo's knee with his studs on the follow through. Pope's isn't a foul because his studs are planted in the ground and makes contact with the ball before the player.

1 minute ago, 2211 said:

While the Sanchez foul was worse I agree they are in the same ball park seeing that Sanchez didn’t get a 3 match ban. There’s no way the 2 offences are polar opposites that one is a red card and the other isn’t even a foul.

As much as I dislike Arsenal that should not have been overruled and the penalty should have stood if the PGMOL have a criteria for goalkeepers fouling attackers.

Just because Sanchez's tackle didn't get a 3 game ban, it doesn't mean both tackles were in the same ball park.

That tackle is not in the same ball park as this

1 minute ago, Scott Harris said:

Just because Sanchez's tackle didn't get a 3 game ban, it doesn't mean both tackles were in the same ball park.

That tackle is not in the same ball park as this

Sanchez got a 1 match ban for denying an attacker a goal scoring opportunity, Nick Pope did the same thing.

Sanchez wasn’t sent off because of how high the challenge was.

How they felt to overturn that decision and say there was no foul wasn’t right.

IMO the Sanchez got a deserved red card but Arsenal should have had a penalty.

1 hour ago, 2211 said:

Sanchez got a 1 match ban for denying an attacker a goal scoring opportunity, Nick Pope did the same thing.

Sanchez wasn’t sent off because of how high the challenge was.

How they felt to overturn that decision and say there was no foul wasn’t right.

IMO the Sanchez got a deserved red card but Arsenal should have had a penalty.

But Pope's wasn't a foul. He got the ball and then collided with Arsenal player with his studs planted on the ground. Sanchez got the ball, and then followed through with a studs to the knee tackle. The severity of the tackle is always factored in. Pope's was a legal tackle, Sanchez's wasn't. If Pope had got a bit of the ball and then followed with his studs into Gyokeres knee, it would have been a penalty.

Just seen the highlights from Everton against West Ham.

Great equaliser from Bowen.

The 2nd time I noticed Grealish playing well at Everton and more surprising Dewsbury-Hall too.

Kairat Almaty v Real Madrid 5.45pm KO our man Satpayev should feature. No easy task for him.