In the red corner, with a face like a woodpecker, and taking denial to a level not seen since Michael Barrymore got married, Arsene 'I'll be your Daddy' Wenger

In the other red corner, fresh from Fulham's mid table obscurity and now taking Liverpool to new Premiership levels, who put the 'Woy' in Woyful', Roy 'Who left me this sh*te' Hodgson.

Round 1

Wenger '"I don't believe we are too soft. We showed that at Chelsea where we were not dominated physically at all. On the contrary, we dominated that game physically"

vs

Hodgson (after getting thoroughly humped by Everton) "How is it possible to lose 2-0 when the team played as well as it did for such a large part of the game?"

Can I have the scores of the judges please.

Extremely tough one that. I reckon Roy just shades it.

On the plus side for Liversh*te we heard some great examples on MOTD2 of the famous dictum "When criticising Liversh*te players always insert - except Steven Gerrard of course"

My vote goes to Woy, on the strength of this doozy: "I thought the shape of the team was good today, the quality of our passing and movement was good. We didn't score goals and Everton did but I refuse to accept that we were in any way outplayed or any way inferior."

I heard the same in the pub today. 'We can't expect Gerrard to always bail us out.'

I resisted the urge to point out how entirely correct they were.

Hodgson by a landslide. Liverpool were utterly awful today.

I think you have misunderstood what Arse N. w**ker meant. He probably intended to say "We dominated that game physically in much the same way as my country dominated the fighting in WW2"

Now now Moi, pissing on your own doorstep is, at the very least, bad manners. Next you will be banging on your neighbours door and yelling 'We liberated you!' through their letter box.

Now now Moi, pissing on your own doorstep is, at the very least, bad manners. Next you will be banging on your neighbours door and yelling 'We liberated you!' through their letter box.

You may never have noticed that the French like the Americans have letter boxes at their front gates. My neighbours are four delightful young men who always invite me to their parties, so I will certainly not be bellowing Surrender Singes into their little green box.

Hmmm... Both comments are equally laughable but my vote goes to Roy - as Wenger wins too many of these awards.

Wenger by a country mile. If only because he's been spouting the same kind of drivel for years. When it comes to the not so fine art of verbal diarrhoea, Hodgeson is by comparison a mere novice.

I think Roy knows the sack is coming, he's just gone abit off the rails.

Whilst I have no sympathy for liverpool or there current predicament, i do have a lot of sympathy for Roy. His comments are absolutely ridiculous but when the future looks so dam dark i think he is trying a positive spin maybe just to give the new owners a bit of optimism. I still think Roy is a great manager as he proved at Fulham but Rafa really left him up the crapper with the team he inherited. So my vote has to go to Wenger because last year he also said that he didnt think drogba played well after he had scored a fantastic brace against them.

I still dont't understand why Hodgson's time at Fulham has resulted in him being considered a great or very good manager. He took an average squad and did average things with them bar one UEFA cup run.

hodgson is on his way out, he's just waiting for a nice compensation agreement to boost his retirement fund. come january, it will be o'neill who will be buying some more mediocre players for them.

I still dont't understand why Hodgson's time at Fulham has resulted in him being considered a great or very good manager. He took an average squad and did average things with them bar one UEFA cup run.

Ok valid point, not great manager but i still think he is a good manager. If he was to get fired at this stage not top managers are going to leave a job for them, so besides O'nel he looks like their best option for the forseeable future

My vote for Wenger was before I'd read the following::

I can’t ask more of the players than they’ve given the club. I thought their workrate was outstanding, our passing was very good, our movement was good and Everton were fortunate enough to be able to defend on the back of a two-goal cushion. I think it might have been a different story had they not had the two-goal cushion

In my opinion it’s arguably the best game we’ve played since I’ve become the manager of the club. That’s my opinion based on what I saw on the field but I’m fully aware that what you see on the field is not what people base their opinions on.

They base them on results and then they try and find all kinds of other reasons why the result was what it was but for me, and I’m pretty sure I’ll be backed up by David Moyes, our performance today was a good one.

We have seen a magnificent derby game. We were on the losing side and it pushes us even deeper into the mire because we needed a result from today, in particular we needed one on the back of the new owners coming in.

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Dear god, do they inject football mangers with something now? Dominated us physically (yeah right, it was like watching a doorman hold a dwarf at arms length)? Best Liverpool have played under Woy (maybe correct to be fair, as they have been utter sh*te in pretty much every game)? Everton fortunate enough to defend a 2 goal cushion (fortunate to dominate a game for a full 60 minutes, score 2 goals and create plenty other chances, then defend that lead? jesus)

I vote for both of them to be admitted into the nut house.

Gotta be Woy

Clearly in denial with a hint of 'please don't sack me'

I want him to stay at Liverpool more than I used to want the fat Spanish Waiter to stay

In my opinion it’s arguably the best game we’ve played since I’ve become the manager of the club

That must be the reason why he was smiling so heartily when shaking Moyes' hand :blink:

Thought he was just deluded. He has lost all respect after this

Chippy and defensive after the game, he ended his press conference in a sharp exchange with a journalist from Scandinavia who questioned the lack of supply to Torres.

'Are you from Denmark?' Hodgson asked (he considers the Danish press too negative).

'No, Norway,' replied the visitor. 'Ah, two countries I never want to work in again,' he said.

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I still dont't understand why Hodgson's time at Fulham has resulted in him being considered a great or very good manager. He took an average squad and did average things with them bar one UEFA cup run.

I agree The English Claudio Ranners !

does well with what he has but won't add to the trophy room ...........................

I see similarities in both of them. Wenger is completely incapable of facing the demons that confront Arsenal year after year, and instead hides behind nonsense like that.

Likewise, Hodgson seems to be in a position where, no matter what he does the results are winding up the same every week. I really hope he doesnt get the sack and turns things around a little bit, because he is clearly ineffectual and in over his head. I think if they sack him, Martin O'Neill is a lock to be their next manager. I cant imagine how this place will love that

Dear god, do they inject football mangers with something now? Dominated us physically (yeah right, it was like watching a doorman hold a dwarf at arms length)? Best Liverpool have played under Woy (maybe correct to be fair, as they have been utter sh*te in pretty much every game)? Everton fortunate enough to defend a 2 goal cushion (fortunate to dominate a game for a full 60 minutes, score 2 goals and create plenty other chances, then defend that lead? jesus)

I vote for both of them to be admitted into the nut house.

That picture is amazing

We were desperate for Rafa to continue the good work from last season but he got sacked and on came Woy. He is doing an even better job and we dont want him to get the sack but I sometime stop and think, maybe no manager is capable of lifting pool from the mire they're in. Rafa (or those Americans) has already set the wheels in motion for the unstoppable journey towards Npower Championship.

Agent Woy - deciding factor for me is that he still thinks they'll make the top four this season. The scousers are probably thick enough to believe him too.

to misquote Michael Winner their current position - 2nd from bottom - is historic.