January 9, 20188 yr 22 hours ago, Ewell CFC said: I think Steve Clarke may have been the last regular starter from North of the Border. Pretty sure your are correct about that. The Scottish players were part of virtually every successful top flight English team until the early to mid 1990s. The decline wasn't obvious at first. However,the Scottish national team have not been to a World Cup Final tournament since 1998. Darren Fletcher at Man Utd was the last Scottish player in a successful top flight English team, I think.
January 9, 20188 yr 22 minutes ago, erskblue said: Pretty sure your are correct about that. The Scottish players were part of virtually every successful top flight English team until the early to mid 1990s. The decline wasn't obvious at first. However,the Scottish national team have not been to a World Cup Final tournament since 1998. Darren Fletcher at Man Utd was the last Scottish player in a successful top flight English team, I think. @erskblueAs you say, the decline wasn't obvious at first. Incredible to look back at the number of great Scottish players who have played in England and we at Chelsea have had a few. Sadly, there aren't that many great Scottish players plying their trade in Scotland. Arguably the last decent player in Scotland was Barry Ferguson. A fine player who sensibly didn't go the way of his brother Derek. And to think of the great Scottish wingers over the years: Cooke, Nevin, Cooper, Henderson, Johnston and Wilson. All the players I've listed have played for Chelsea or Rangers but then I'm biased!
January 9, 20188 yr 18 hours ago, Richard P said: Souness was already there he was injured along with McDermott but both played a few weeks later when we won 3-1 Aylott was sub and didnt play Chelsea (0) 3 Liverpool (0) 1 Date: Saturday, 4th March 1978 at 15:00 Cutting Competition: Football League Division 1 Position 15 Venue: Stamford Bridge Attendance: 35,550 Referee: Peter Reeves (Leicester) Chelsea 1 Peter Bonetti, 2 Gary Locke, 3 Ron Harris, 4 Ian Britton, 5 Micky Droy, 6 Steve Wicks, 7 Steve Finnieston, 8 Ray Wilkins, 9 Tommy Langley, 10 Ray Lewington, 11 Clive Walker Scorers Langley 50, Finnieston 60, Finnieston 90 Sub Not Used 12 Trevor Aylott Manager Ken Shellito Liverpool Clemence, Neal, Smith, Hansen, Kennedy, Hughes, Dalglish, McDermott, Heighway, Souness, Fairclough (Case 68) Scorer Neal 48 (Pen) Booked Neal Manager Bob Paisley Apologies. Aylott scored against Forest at home, who were flying high at the time. (5th November). He also scored against Bristol City the week before- both 1 nil wins. The only goals he ever scored for us! I remember half the shed once singing " Aylott Off". His confidence had gone poor sod. Edited January 9, 20188 yr by Ewell CFC
January 9, 20188 yr 10 hours ago, Boyne said: @erskblueAs you say, the decline wasn't obvious at first. Incredible to look back at the number of great Scottish players who have played in England and we at Chelsea have had a few. Sadly, there aren't that many great Scottish players plying their trade in Scotland. Arguably the last decent player in Scotland was Barry Ferguson. A fine player who sensibly didn't go the way of his brother Derek. And to think of the great Scottish wingers over the years: Cooke, Nevin, Cooper, Henderson, Johnston and Wilson. All the players I've listed have played for Chelsea or Rangers but then I'm biased! My first World Cup sitting watching all the games was Argentina 78 aged 10. If Danny McGrain had been fit and no Alan Rough in goal Scotland’s squad was unbelievably strong. I think the beginning of the 90s saw less players coming down to play in England that were top draw equivalent of European players coming in to our game.
January 9, 20188 yr 1 hour ago, Richard P said: My first World Cup sitting watching all the games was Argentina 78 aged 10. If Danny McGrain had been fit and no Alan Rough in goal Scotland’s squad was unbelievably strong. I think the beginning of the 90s saw less players coming down to play in England that were top draw equivalent of European players coming in to our game. Alan Rough now that's a name from the past, me to watched my first world cup in 78 aged 9, wanting Scotland to win as England weren't there, and that clown Rough was bloody useless, he also played in the 82 world cup, Scotland always were a joke when it came to keepers, where as at the same time England had Shilton, Clemence, Corrigan and Parkes.
January 9, 20188 yr My first world cup was 74 not a great tournament except for Cruyff and this the funniest thing ever to happen on a football pitch.
January 10, 20188 yr 14 hours ago, Richard P said: My first World Cup sitting watching all the games was Argentina 78 aged 10. If Danny McGrain had been fit and no Alan Rough in goal Scotland’s squad was unbelievably strong. I think the beginning of the 90s saw less players coming down to play in England that were top draw equivalent of European players coming in to our game. 12 hours ago, chi blue said: Alan Rough now that's a name from the past, me to watched my first world cup in 78 aged 9, wanting Scotland to win as England weren't there, and that clown Rough was bloody useless, he also played in the 82 world cup, Scotland always were a joke when it came to keepers, where as at the same time England had Shilton, Clemence, Corrigan and Parkes. Danny McGrain was a fine full back. One of the best in the U.K. over the last forty years. Sandy Jardine was good as him. Together the two of them would have made a great full back partnership. Agree, that Scotland has had some poor goalies over the years. It was probably only until the eighties and nineties when the likes of Andy Goram appeared on the scene that things improved. I was at England v Scotland game at Wembley in 1975 when England won 5-1. Stewart Kennedy was in goal for Scotland that day and he was awful. Wasn't a bad Scotland squad in 1978 but the players and the manager became too complacent and cocky and came undone against Iran and Peru. Great performance against the Dutch but a bit too late by then. The sending home of Willie Johnston for drug taking didn't help.
January 10, 20188 yr Read in an interview with Charlie Cooke that he was banned for 4 years in 1971 from the Scottish national side ! This was in Belguim . It involved him going for a heavy drinking session with some Old Firm players. Yet the Old Firm players weren't banned. Crazy. Charlie should have gone to the 1974 World Cup as part of the Scotland squad.
January 10, 20188 yr 59 minutes ago, Boyne said: Danny McGrain was a fine full back. One of the best in the U.K. over the last forty years. Sandy Jardine was good as him. Together the two of them would have made a great full back partnership. Agree, that Scotland has had some poor goalies over the years. It was probably only until the eighties and nineties when the likes of Andy Goram appeared on the scene that things improved. I was at England v Scotland game at Wembley in 1975 when England won 5-1. Stewart Kennedy was in goal for Scotland that day and he was awful. Wasn't a bad Scotland squad in 1978 but the players and the manager became too complacent and cocky and came undone against Iran and Peru. Great performance against the Dutch but a bit too late by then. The sending home of Willie Johnston for drug taking didn't help. Ally's army off to win the world cup!!!! Remember watching the Holland game round my grandparents house and jumping up and down when Archie Gemmill waltzed through the Dutch defence, other memories from that world cup, Jonny repp, mario Kempe's, Lukay, and an Argentine Wonder kid who didn't play and was only about 16, but was bigged up as the next big thing, I think his name was Diego Madonna or something, wonder what happened to him?
January 10, 20188 yr 10 minutes ago, Boyne said: Those blue umbro shorts, green top and my yellow gloves with B on the top, I was always up the local park dressed like the cat
January 10, 20188 yr 24 minutes ago, erskblue said: Read in an interview with Charlie Cooke that he was banned for 4 years in 1971 from the Scottish national side ! This was in Belguim . It involved him going for a heavy drinking session with some Old Firm players. Yet the Old Firm players weren't banned. Crazy. Charlie should have gone to the 1974 World Cup as part of the Scotland squad. Didn't know about Charlie being banned for four years. What a waste of his talent but then the SFA has made some strange choices over the years. Just had a look at the Scotland squad for 1974 and the wingers were Jimmy Johnstone, Willie Morgan and Peter Lorimer. Charlie was far better than all three of them.
January 10, 20188 yr 10 minutes ago, chi blue said: Ally's army off to win the world cup!!!! Remember watching the Holland game round my grandparents house and jumping up and down when Archie Gemmill waltzed through the Dutch defence, other memories from that world cup, Jonny repp, mario Kempe's, Lukay, and an Argentine Wonder kid who didn't play and was only about 16, but was bigged up as the next big thing, I think his name was Diego Madonna or something, wonder what happened to him? Archie's goal was brilliant. One of the finest in WC history. Some great players in that tournament. If I remember correctly Kempes was the top scorer in the tournament.
January 11, 20188 yr 21 hours ago, Boyne said: Archie's goal was brilliant. One of the finest in WC history. Some great players in that tournament. If I remember correctly Kempes was the top scorer in the tournament. Great goal. Arie Haan had his shooting boots on that's for sure- his strike against Italy was a stonker- my favourite long range shot ever.
January 11, 20188 yr 23 hours ago, chi blue said: Ally's army off to win the world cup!!!! Remember watching the Holland game round my grandparents house and jumping up and down when Archie Gemmill waltzed through the Dutch defence, other memories from that world cup, Jonny repp, mario Kempe's, Lukay, and an Argentine Wonder kid who didn't play and was only about 16, but was bigged up as the next big thing, I think his name was Diego Madonna or something, wonder what happened to him? Mario Kempes was some striker at that World Cup. His strike partner was Leopard Luque. Remember seeing that Argentina team with the young Maradona destroy Scotland at Hampden in a friendly in early June 79. It was 3-1 going on 6-1.
January 11, 20188 yr 23 hours ago, chi blue said: Those blue umbro shorts, green top and my yellow gloves with B on the top, I was always up the local park dressed like the cat Yeah i remember having yellow and blue goalie gloves with a B on the back. They might have been sold as Gordon Banks gloves,but they were Peter Bonetti goalie gloves to me. This would have been 1977 ish.
January 11, 20188 yr Davie Hay and Charlie Cooke were the first two Chelsea players who ' i was ' in the school playground when playing football from 1974-79 at Primary School. Oh and Peter Bonetti when I was in goal. Which was quite often as I enjoyed playing in goals and was far better there than outfield. Not that that in all honesty is saying much looking back!
January 11, 20188 yr Doug looks like he's yawning. Season 86-87. Edited January 11, 20188 yr by Boyne
January 11, 20188 yr 7 hours ago, erskblue said: Yeah i remember having yellow and blue goalie gloves with a B on the back. They might have been sold as Gordon Banks gloves,but they were Peter Bonetti goalie gloves to me. This would have been 1977 ish. Remember watching the 79 cup final, Arsenal v utd, Arsenal 2 up and game nearing end, donned my kit, put on my bonnetti gloves and went up park, got home later for tea to hear last 5 mins of game had gone potty and ended 3-2 after utd got back to 2-2
January 11, 20188 yr The boys doing their thing after Robbie scores a late winner against Middlesbrough. One of my all time favourite Chelsea photos. Beautiful time to be a Chelsea fan. Edited January 11, 20188 yr by Famous CFC
January 11, 20188 yr On 10/01/2018 at 22:26, Charles Ryder said: Before they were team mates. Before they were Chelsea legends
January 12, 20188 yr 5 hours ago, Famous CFC said: The boys doing their thing after Robbie scores a late winner against Middlesbrough. One of my all time favourite Chelsea photos. Beautiful time to be a Chelsea fan. Apparently Robbie said this wasn't planned. He just did it on impulse and the others just dived in!
January 12, 20188 yr 6 minutes ago, old git said: Apparently Robbie said this wasn't planned. He just did it on impulse and the others just dived in! Well that team did have great chemistry on and off the field so it figures.
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