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Chelsea vs Dynamo Kiev (CL) 04/11/15 KO: 19:45 BST


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I'll be the one to start the thread. Important for us to win this one, as horrendous as our domestic form is the CL is one competition where almost virtually anything can happen, and I'd love a decent run this year. Thoughts on the lineup?

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Within two minutes of one another, that must be a record!

 

This is random.

 

Apart from posting 2 similar topics at almost the same time, both your names have 7 letters, starts with a T, ends with a S and has an I as the 4th letter.  :laugh2:

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Fail to win this and we are heading to the europa again. Although there would be our best bet of being in next seasons champions league ironically.

 

Doesn't really matter at this point. Realistically we're not going to win the CL if we are so bad we're 15th in the league. Any top side like Barca or Real would hit double figures against us. Would be better to focus on improving the league position.

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Doesn't really matter at this point. Realistically we're not going to win the CL if we are so bad we're 15th in the league. Any top side like Barca or Real would hit double figures against us. Would be better to focus on improving the league position.

 

Sadly I think it's more important than that, I think we need to get through the group stages as if Roman is to have a rush of blood to his trigger finger it's most likely to be as a result of an early exit in the CL.

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Doesn't really matter at this point. Realistically we're not going to win the CL if we are so bad we're 15th in the league. Any top side like Barca or Real would hit double figures against us. Would be better to focus on improving the league position.

 

Sadly I think it's more important than that, I think we need to get through the group stages as if Roman is to have a rush of blood to his trigger finger it's most likely to be as a result of an early exit in the CL.

Differing points of view lads. I guess I am torn here because even if we do get through this group if we get a tough draw for the last 16 it is hard to see us progressing. Ending up in the Europa gives us a better chance of winning it and being in next seasons Champions League.

 

Although keep playing how we are and stand no chance in either competition.

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Differing points of view lads. I guess I am torn here because even if we do get through this group if we get a tough draw for the last 16 it is hard to see us progressing. Ending up in the Europa gives us a better chance of winning it and being in next seasons Champions League.

 

Although keep playing how we are and stand no chance in either competition.

 

 

I understand what you're saying but imagine another Europa victory with another Interim? I don't think I could stomach it,  I'd much prefer to have Jose at the helm next season even if that meant we went out in the knockout stages and missed out on CL next year.

 

I very much doubt that if we went out in the groups we'd win the Europa as I think if Mourinho is sacked (which an early CL exit may mean) the next man in will struggle, unlike when the FSW came in as we had a much tougher spine to the team then.

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                         Begovic

Azpilicueta   Cahill   Zouma   Baba

                          Matic

              Ramires      RLC

Willian                                    Kenedy

                     Remy/Traore

 

Subs:

Amelia

Terry

Mikel

Pedro

Costa

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Doesn't really matter at this point. Realistically we're not going to win the CL if we are so bad we're 15th in the league. Any top side like Barca or Real would hit double figures against us. Would be better to focus on improving the league position.

 

We weren't the best team when we won it so miracle can happen.. Also, it's well noted that qualifying to the knockout stage will be considerably beneficial to us financially.. With a lil bit luck on the draw, a semi can be achieved.. 

 

I hope the players will put on hold whatever agenda they have with the manager and try to win this one because this match could be the deciding factor whether we're going to qualify alongside porto or not.. 

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I understand what you're saying but imagine another Europa victory with another Interim? I don't think I could stomach it,  I'd much prefer to have Jose at the helm next season even if that meant we went out in the knockout stages and missed out on CL next year.

 

I very much doubt that if we went out in the groups we'd win the Europa as I think if Mourinho is sacked (which an early CL exit may mean) the next man in will struggle, unlike when the FSW came in as we had a much tougher spine to the team then.

AVB, the newly linked Interim. Yeah was hard to enjoy that previous victory. Only Roman knows if Jose is for the chop.

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                         Begovic

Azpilicueta   Cahill   Zouma   Baba

                          Matic

              Ramires      RLC

Willian                                    Kenedy

                     Remy/Traore

 

Subs:

Amelia

Terry

Mikel

Pedro

Costa

Looks bettern than anything JM has fielded this season. Thus there's zero chance of us actually starting the game like that  :sad:

I can see Ivanovic returning for this one  :face_palm:

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Of course we want to progress and do well. I don't believe for one minute that progressing in the CL will hurt our chances in the league. Confidence is confidence, and we need it where ever we can find it. I don't understand the argument that you want to go out of the CL/Europe to concentrate for the league, since concentrating on the league presumably means getting into Europe again?! 

 

We won't win the CL this year, but it would do wonders for the lads if they showed they could go a few rounds with the best in the knock-out stages (which they can!) If we win this one and beat Macabi away (which should be doable!), we're through ... 

 

Dynamo Kiev are tricky, though, but we did ok against them last time. 

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Hoping for a win but would take a good performance and a draw right now.

Kiev are playing with a lot of confidence. They only have one loss in the last 12 games (to league leaders, Shaktar) - I know the Ukrainian League isn't BPL but they have yet to lose in CL as well.

We have lost 7 of last 13, as if anyone needs reminding.

Can't do anything about that.

Doesn't matter who is to blame either (players, coach, refs, FA, Illuminati, ... take your pick).

This game is all that counts.

 

Win - we go first or second in group table with better head-to-head versus Kiev

Draw - we remain third in group with two games to play - Maccabi away and Porto home = good chance to qualify for Round of 16

Lose - CL over for this year (not technically) and JM sacked (a loss in game four of CL - away at Juve - was the trigger for RA getting rid of RdM - and he had just won the holy grail of CL and an FA Cup after resurrecting our season following AVB disaster).

 

Most important game of the season.

As I said, I would take a good performance and a draw right now.

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I can't even describe how important a win for us. 

 

I'd like to see this starting line:

 

------------------------- Begovic ----------------------

 

Azpi ------------- Zouma --- Cahill ---------- Baba

 

------------------- Matic ------- Ramires-------------

 

---------------------- Loftus-Cheek -----------------

 

Willian ----------------------------------- Traore

 

---------------------- Remy ----------------------------

 

 

COME ON CHELS!

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