my biggest and only hope that Danilo will have that "Real Madrid effect" where players after leaving them start playing better and better. He was really good at Porto, actually very good, supposed to be new Dani Alves. Main target for Porto from the right side cannot be a fluke (I hope), only if he forgot how to play lol. 30m € can turn into a big bargain if he show his full potential here. Pairing Danilo and Sandro 

€30m is a steal in the current climate. Competition for Moses is priority over another lb/lwb

42 minutes ago, MissouriBlue said:

It's quite concerning to me how many people out on twitter saying this guy is rubbish. My blues experts give me the low down, is this guy decent or what? I see 15 Brazilian caps and hes 25.

The guy lost his confidence at Real is all. I mean going from Porto to Real and then to be expected to perform without time to properly bed in kind of threw him off a bit. Real fans are also notorious for being fickle. In Porto he was quite good and was tipped to be much better attacking wise to A. Sandro.

Since then, Sandro has really developed because he had time to displace a declining Evra and Lichtsteiner. Danilo on the other hand competed with Carvajal who is of the same age and since Carvajal is more familiar to the system it seemed a no brainer I think.

The step up from Porto to Real is what did him in imo. He had to acclimatise to a different league, playing with much better players as well as the pressure of needing to constantly win games at Real

I think we need a LWB more than a RWB.

We've got Moses, Azpilicueta and Rudiger who can play on the right. But only Alonso for the left.

5 minutes ago, Zeta said:

I think we need a LWB more than a RWB.

We've got Moses, Azpilicueta and Rudiger who can play on the right. But only Alonso for the left.

Agreed and there is no clear proof than when Alonso got injured before the United game. 

So apparently this is happening for an agreed fee of 31 million euros, he travel to America but his agents are dealing with Chelsea at present, reports out of UOL Brazil 

Edited July 11, 20179 yr by DonAntonio
I'm late to the party someone already posted this apologies

1 minute ago, DonAntonio said:

So apparently this is happening for an agreed fee of 31 million euros, he travel to America but his agents are dealing with Chelsea at present, reports out of UOL Brazil 

Don't think he's a good fit from what I have heard. We need to sort a.striker out first imho

Just now, CrowBag said:

Don't think he's a good fit from what I have heard. We need to sort a.striker out first imho

It's not always in order of priority it's what comes up when, or willy wouldn't have been first signing. If a deals there in a position you need, we can't say let's put it in hold until we get a more important position sorted, we urgently need full back upgrades, he is better than Moses by a long sh*t, he was the better of the fullbacks as Porto with Sandro I thought, needs to find his flow again, he is a good player, we beat out juve to him we had to go in and I'm glad we seem to have done that, if we get his pal Sandro now, and btw they are actually best pals so this helps us bring Sandro who by accounts will have to put in a request himself if juve are to sell, so happy days al round, morata will be happening in the background and one piece of business is good for the other, Danilo and morata will basically fund mbappe everyone is happy. 

2 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

It's not always in order of priority it's what comes up when, or willy wouldn't have been first signing. If a deals there in a position you need, we can't say let's put it in hold until we get a more important position sorted, we urgently need full back upgrades, he is better than Moses by a long sh*t, he was the better of the fullbacks as Porto with Sandro I thought, needs to find his flow again, he is a good player, we beat out juve to him we had to go in and I'm glad we seem to have done that, if we get his pal Sandro now, and btw they are actually best pals so this helps us bring Sandro who by accounts will have to put in a request himself if juve are to sell, so happy days al round, morata will be happening in the background and one piece of business is good for the other, Danilo and morata will basically fund mbappe everyone is happy. 

Not saying its a bad move mate just having a wee panic about just having bats man atm.

Regardless of whether he will reach his potential, it's still good to have him as a potential option.
Adds way more depth. 

Edited July 11, 20179 yr by TomCFC85

6 minutes ago, CrowBag said:

Not saying its a bad move mate just having a wee panic about just having bats man atm.

The board will be too that's why they will pay what real are asking and get morata you could say with a somewhat degree of certainty  we should get him, no real resistance from real, they want to deal with us, want the money for mbappe the only thing that can f this up for us is marinas negotiating but I'm sure she will have enough pressure to drop the hard negotiator act 

6 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

The board will be too that's why they will pay what real are asking and get morata you could say with a somewhat degree of certainty  we should get him, no real resistance from real, they want to deal with us, want the money for mbappe the only thing that can f this up for us is marinas negotiating but I'm sure she will have enough pressure to drop the hard negotiator act 

Do u think there is a chance of belotti? Paper talk says we will pay 89m for him #express

I'd prefer someone cheaper. Conti, for instance. But if it helps get the Morata deal over the line... win?

2 minutes ago, Charles Ryder said:

I'd prefer someone cheaper. Conti, for instance. But if it helps get the Morata deal over the line... win?

Apologies for my ignorance but how does it help us for Morata? 

1 minute ago, TomCFC85 said:

Apologies for my ignorance but how does it help us for Morata? 

Real may be more amenable to accepting realistic fee for Morata when we've just overpayed for a player they've been desperate to get rid of. At least, that's the theory.

 

 

His defensive numbers worry me. Sure, Moses wasn't exactly a defensive beast but buying a player in a similar mould doesn't bring anything new to the table.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/683/main/2017/06/30/36739502/danilo-how-did-real-madrid-manage-to-convince-juventus-to

 

Just now, Charles Ryder said:

Real may be more amenable to accepting realistic fee for Morata when we've just overpayed for a player they've been desperate to get rid of. At least, that's the theory.

 

 

His defensive numbers worry me. Sure, Moses wasn't exactly a defensive beast but buying a player in a similar mould doesn't bring anything new to the table.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/683/main/2017/06/30/36739502/danilo-how-did-real-madrid-manage-to-convince-juventus-to

 

I'm firmly in the camp that believes that if anyone can get his Porto form back, it's Conte. 

5 minutes ago, Charles Ryder said:

I'd prefer someone cheaper. Conti, for instance. But if it helps get the Morata deal over the line... win?

Conti has gone to Milan.

The rightbacks that are available in the current market in Europe would probably be along the lines of Sidibe, Cancelo.

Karsdrop went to Roma already.

There aren't a lot of good to WC RB in recent times hence why Lahm is considered to be the best for such a long time.

2 minutes ago, Charles Ryder said:

Real may be more amenable to accepting realistic fee for Morata when we've just overpayed for a player they've been desperate to get rid of. At least, that's the theory.

 

 

His defensive numbers worry me. Sure, Moses wasn't exactly a defensive beast but buying a player in a similar mould doesn't bring anything new to the table.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/683/main/2017/06/30/36739502/danilo-how-did-real-madrid-manage-to-convince-juventus-to

 

He was never the defensive fullback. Conte would just have to pummel the importance of defending into him and with Azpi alongside to guide and teach him, he might still improve

1 hour ago, CrowBag said:

Do u think there is a chance of belotti? Paper talk says we will pay 89m for him #express

I think I would prefer him maybe, I go back and forward on this, but Tourino wont budge on the price, however fact he has a release clause means if we want him and he is willing to come (conte and salary should guarantee that) we can have him...almost. So I would imagine we go after Morata try and get him at 75 plus add ons, if not we may, if desperate enough, go in and trigger the release on Belotti then it's just a case of personal terms, thing to note about release clauses though is they can be attached to other things than price alone, so those conditions may not have been met and it may not be a given, an example is it must be a club in the CL, it must be one of the clubs listed, there can be several clauses attached to the release, so until we know that we can't say for sure, also think he may be seen as a risk at 89 million, a season or two of good football at an ok club in an ok league, not sure the club will go be able to justify 89 million, but then  I can only guess like anyone. 

23 minutes ago, Deino said:

Conti has gone to Milan.

The rightbacks that are available in the current market in Europe would probably be along the lines of Sidibe, Cancelo.

Karsdrop went to Roma already.

There aren't a lot of good to WC RB in recent times hence why Lahm is considered to be the best for such a long time.

I missed that. Milan making some shrewd buys, seem to have a smarter approach than Inter's scatter gun efforts of last season.

Edited July 12, 20179 yr by Charles Ryder

i don't know much about this guy's ability, anyone want to fill me in?

14 minutes ago, magichat said:

i don't know much about this guy's ability, anyone want to fill me in?

Like a raw Dani Alves with a tendency to drift in central position if space opens up. Likes to shoot long rangers, has a decent shooting technique.

If you listen to fans of Porto: 

He's great, potential to be WC

If you listen to fans after transfer to Real:

sh*t. Misplaces passes and ventures too far forwards, at times entering the 18yd box

 

Overall, decent size, a bit on the thin side, when on form/confident has the technique to dribble and shoot, decent crossing ability.

When off form, bad, misplaces passes, sh*t crossing which I think is more due to lack of chemistry as he seems to be unable to overtake Carvajal in that RB spot. Carvajal isn't necessarily a lot better just that Carvajal has been in that team for years so clicks well with the team.

Only vaguely remember when he went to Real.  Interesting if this is what we do for the RWB side, I guess I assumed it would be Moses and Dave rotating.  There are some players that go off the boil after early promise, so there is risk for sure with him, but perhaps worth taking although it seems a high price for the risk.  Seems like his main issue is his defensive ability, and perhaps playing as a WB as opposed to a back four may help.  

So we are giving Madrid back their money back for a RB they were desperate to get rid of, and Bayern managed to loan James for 2 years. 

All the deals we are making this summer window are just weird. You would think after winning the league we would be buying players to take us the next level, instead it seems we are expecting Conte to continue turning water into wine. 

5 hours ago, Charles Ryder said:

I missed that. Milan making some shrewd buys, seem to have a smarter approach than Inter's scatter gun efforts of last season.

They've killed it so far. Kessie, Silva and Conti would be a pretty good window for us