2 hours ago, OTL said:

Enzo stood for more than 2 minutes, in comparison LR managed 18 seconds and hardly stopped walking.😂

Yeah, but he very emotionally put his hand on his heart. I was so tearing up, caught up in the emotion

Just kidding, I was looking for a mop to clean up my vomit.

I’d say that performative sh*t at the end of the game, was about BlueCo, he positioned himself in front of that BlueCo out banner, and stared at it, making the sure the cameras had the intended angle. Therefore, I’d say he was trying to communicate how he feels about the owners. They’ve clearly miss-sold him a dream.

…not that he’s good enough to be part of such dream but nonetheless.

Edited April 22Apr 22 by Term_X

Weird little rat trying to aura farm for the camaras at the end.

Fully expect him to sign an extension now.

6 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

Fully expect him to sign an extension now.

Enough to push me over the edge.

6 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

Fully expect him to sign an extension now.

Zero chance, and I hope he doesn’t. He will want to be the highest paid player, and I don’t see where he starts if everyone is fit except deep in midfield, where his lack of physicality and a lack of height becomes an issue.

Manchester City have interest per the Athletic.

6 hours ago, markpitts said:

Zero chance, and I hope he doesn’t. He will want to be the highest paid player, and I don’t see where he starts if everyone is fit except deep in midfield, where his lack of physicality and a lack of height becomes an issue.

Where does he go then because your post about the issues at Madrid made good sense.

I don’t see him going to Saudi or PSG which doesn’t leave him any options

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Manchester City have interest per the Athletic.

Maresca to City becomes clearer if that’s the case

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Manchester City have interest per the Athletic.

As much as he divides opinion here, he would do well under Pep and in City's system.

7 minutes ago, Remodez said:

As much as he divides opinion here, he would do well under Pep and in City's system.

Like him or not, he's the only center mid we’ve got who fancies a goal. Naturally, we’ll replace him with a pair of ‘promising’ DMs allergic to the final third.

5 minutes ago, acaeus said:

Like him or not, he's the only center mid we’ve got who fancies a goal. Naturally, we’ll replace him with a pair of ‘promising’ DMs allergic to the final third.

This.

As much as we bash Enzo, we will 100% either downgrade on him or sign a non needle mover as his replacement. Delap is worse than Jackson. Gittens/Garnacho are worse than Madueke. Hato is likely on par or worse than Veiga. Bounnanoutte is sh*t compared to KDH.

It's the theme under these directors.

35 minutes ago, 19seventyone said:

Maresca to City becomes clearer if that’s the case

Pipe dream on both counts. Maresca isn’t going to City, and they don’t want Enzo.

14 minutes ago, Remodez said:

As much as he divides opinion here, he would do well under Pep and in City's system.

No he wouldn’t. Anyone who watched City v Arsenal, saw Bernardo Silva controlling the game and dictating the tempo at 31yrs, and think they will want Enzo is having a laugh. This is his agent yet again linking his player to every top club to force the club’s hands. He is a bang average player.

2 hours ago, markpitts said:

Pipe dream on both counts. Maresca isn’t going to City, and they don’t want Enzo.

No he wouldn’t. Anyone who watched City v Arsenal, saw Bernardo Silva controlling the game and dictating the tempo at 31yrs, and think they will want Enzo is having a laugh. This is his agent yet again linking his player to every top club to force the club’s hands. He is a bang average player.

Which is exactly why it’s more than possible he signs a new deal.

He has nowhere else to go.

I thought Madrid was a real possibility but I agree with your reasons why it’s very unlikely.

Where does he go?

Edited April 23Apr 23 by 19seventyone

2 hours ago, markpitts said:

Pipe dream on both counts. Maresca isn’t going to City, and they don’t want Enzo.

No he wouldn’t. Anyone who watched City v Arsenal, saw Bernardo Silva controlling the game and dictating the tempo at 31yrs, and think they will want Enzo is having a laugh. This is his agent yet again linking his player to every top club to force the club’s hands. He is a bang average player.

Don't think Bernardo Silva would be the position for Enzo. It's a different system: our DMs would play CBs there (or not play).

Enzo plays CAM for us because there is nobody else; Palmer is better starting from the wing and creates imbalance when played as CAM. CAM's not Enzo's position. He's a rounded CM -- jack of all trades, master of none type. We happen to "like" (I don't) DM types in CM and have a lot of them, so Enzo ends up moving up.
(what a f**ked up roster imo)

Edited April 23Apr 23 by acaeus

6 hours ago, acaeus said:

Don't think Bernardo Silva would be the position for Enzo. It's a different system: our DMs would play CBs there (or not play).

Enzo plays CAM for us because there is nobody else; Palmer is better starting from the wing and creates imbalance when played as CAM. CAM's not Enzo's position. He's a rounded CM -- jack of all trades, master of none type. We happen to "like" (I don't) DM types in CM and have a lot of them, so Enzo ends up moving up.
(what a f**ked up roster imo)

He wants to play there, though. Compare these comments by Maresca at the start of 2024 to these comments by Maresca at the start of 2025 where it is clear Maresca hoped he could be a classical 6 and a year later was playing him as an out-and-out 10. That's why Fernandez loved Maresca and was reasonably successful scoring goals under him. Coming through River, Benfica and even in the NT he absolutely could have been a 'rounded CM' as you described but he has no interest in playing that role, nor has the creative and industrious side of his game developed enough that he could play there now at a top level. Had he worked on being more accurate with passing I think he could be a Kroos-type 8 in central midfield.

I would love City to sign him, to be honest, especially if Guardiola leaves and they miss out on alternative targets. Replacing the industrious Silva, whose average distance covered in a match in 25/26 (12.2km) is more than Enzo Fernandez's best this season (11.6km) would be a car crash, and a midfield of Cherki/Reijinders/Fernandez would be run through so often that they could rename Man City to the Bonnie Blues.

2 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

He wants to play there, though. Compare these comments by Maresca at the start of 2024 to these comments by Maresca at the start of 2025 where it is clear Maresca hoped he could be a classical 6 and a year later was playing him as an out-and-out 10. That's why Fernandez loved Maresca and was reasonably successful scoring goals under him. Coming through River, Benfica and even in the NT he absolutely could have been a 'rounded CM' as you described but he has no interest in playing that role, nor has the creative and industrious side of his game developed enough that he could play there now at a top level. Had he worked on being more accurate with passing I think he could be a Kroos-type 8 in central midfield.

I would love City to sign him, to be honest, especially if Guardiola leaves and they miss out on alternative targets. Replacing the industrious Silva, whose average distance covered in a match in 25/26 (12.2km) is more than Enzo Fernandez's best this season (11.6km) would be a car crash, and a midfield of Cherki/Reijinders/Fernandez would be run through so often that they could rename Man City to the Bonnie Blues.

Right but that’s actually pretty common isn’t it? Players love to be in the “creative” spot with less defensive duties. Sure he dreamt of being maradona at some point eh.

I personally don’t think he belongs there, but that’s my point right there: maybe in our f**ked up squad he does belong being the creative mid cam even as the position is up for grabs… but in city’s system he’s not going to be it.

Edited April 24Apr 24 by acaeus

7 hours ago, SydneyChelsea said:

He wants to play there, though. Compare these comments by Maresca at the start of 2024 to these comments by Maresca at the start of 2025 where it is clear Maresca hoped he could be a classical 6 and a year later was playing him as an out-and-out 10. That's why Fernandez loved Maresca and was reasonably successful scoring goals under him. Coming through River, Benfica and even in the NT he absolutely could have been a 'rounded CM' as you described but he has no interest in playing that role, nor has the creative and industrious side of his game developed enough that he could play there now at a top level. Had he worked on being more accurate with passing I think he could be a Kroos-type 8 in central midfield.

I would love City to sign him, to be honest, especially if Guardiola leaves and they miss out on alternative targets. Replacing the industrious Silva, whose average distance covered in a match in 25/26 (12.2km) is more than Enzo Fernandez's best this season (11.6km) would be a car crash, and a midfield of Cherki/Reijinders/Fernandez would be run through so often that they could rename Man City to the Bonnie Blues.

They're planning on selling Reijnders

3 hours ago, Deino said:

They're planning on selling Reijnders

Isn’t Nico O’Riley the long term Gundogan replacement? They also bought a Norwegian wonderkid last summer, Nypan to be an understudy. For the £80m+ fee we will demand, he will need to be a starter which won’t happen especially if they sign Anderson to partner Rodri.

1 hour ago, markpitts said:

Isn’t Nico O’Riley the long term Gundogan replacement? They also bought a Norwegian wonderkid last summer, Nypan to be an understudy. For the £80m+ fee we will demand, he will need to be a starter which won’t happen especially if they sign Anderson to partner Rodri.

They would prefer Anderson. Not sure Rodri will be around much longer either.

Anderson will likely replace Bernardo Silva, and I don't see City losing both Silva and Rodri in the same transfer window.

If Enzo forces the move then I reckon it will be a similar situation as Havertz imo. Genuinely think he'll have a couple clubs interested.

4 hours ago, markpitts said:

Isn’t Nico O’Riley the long term Gundogan replacement? They also bought a Norwegian wonderkid last summer, Nypan to be an understudy. For the £80m+ fee we will demand, he will need to be a starter which won’t happen especially if they sign Anderson to partner Rodri.

O'Reilly LB-LM seems to be working for them

49 minutes ago, Deino said:

O'Reilly LB-LM seems to be working for them

He isn’t a long term solution, and you have Gvardiol to come back.

10 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Anderson will likely replace Bernardo Silva, and I don't see City losing both Silva and Rodri in the same transfer window.

If Enzo forces the move then I reckon it will be a similar situation as Havertz imo. Genuinely think he'll have a couple clubs interested.

Good point on Havertz. If memory serves me right think he left because he wanted a huge rise, even though no one could tell what his best position was. He also spent majority of his time out here injured. I can also remember people saying he was misused, and Madrid bound. With Enzo I think if he had kept his gob shut, and spent the last 3yrs perfecting the flaws in his game, he would be one of the best midfielders in the game. Instead he wants to play as an AM, where bar arriving late in the box you would struggle to tell anything else he is good at. Case in point is the Brighton game where he created nothing, and spent the game passing sideways or just around the defenders.

One team that would be ideal for him, and hasn’t been linked in Atletico Madrid. Griezmann is leaving in the summer, they can pay his wages and the transfer fee. He also get to play with his buddy Alvarez, and his fellow countryman Simone.

Him standing still for 2 minutes doesn't show he was emotional, he just didnt realise the game had finished and he was just doing his normal effort at defending after losing the ball.