Should be 2nd name on the team sheet after Palmer.

10 minutes ago, just said:

Should be 2nd name on the team sheet after Palmer.

Problem is that they both play best in the same position. Palmer has consistently done best wide right - the same place where madueke plays.

Think only one should start - and that has to be palmer.

Just now, nonotnowjim said:

Problem is that they both play best in the same position. Palmer has consistently done best wide right - the same place where madueke plays.

Think only one should start - and that has to be palmer.

Move Madueke to the other side and let them interchange.

10 hours ago, just said:

Move Madueke to the other side and let them interchange.

If he could play on the left im pretty sure poch would have done it. 

I can only see Noni as a super sub tbh.

And hopefully that will give him time to work on his finishing before he turns into a sterling and grow up a bit too.

Palmer has that right side locked down imho.

Edited August 4, 20241 yr by Simplymo

I wonder if there is anything in him being linked to Newcastle, and if that move happens based on whether Liverpool snap up Gordon or not.

On 04/08/2024 at 19:38, Remodez said:

If he could play on the left im pretty sure poch would have done it. 

We are talking about the same Poch that played 3/4 of a season without a midfield, aren't we?

Wouldn't really rely on his tactical nuance. 

25 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

We are talking about the same Poch that played 3/4 of a season without a midfield, aren't we?

Wouldn't really rely on his tactical nuance. 

Can't always blame Poch for everything. I honestly don't recall ever seeing Madueke playing on the left for any team and with his skillset it makes little sense having him there anyway. 

I had a look on transfermarkt and turns out he's played there 4 times his entire career, funnily enough he actually did play on the left for Poch but only for 6 mins as a sub. 

2 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Can't always blame Poch for everything. I honestly don't recall ever seeing Madueke playing on the left for any team and with his skillset it makes little sense having him there anyway. 

I had a look on transfermarkt and turns out he's played there 4 times his entire career, funnily enough he actually did play on the left for Poch but only for 6 mins as a sub. 

I'm not blaming Poch for anything, just pointing out that he isn't the blueprint for success. 

2 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I'm not blaming Poch for anything, just pointing out that he isn't the blueprint for success. 

In this particular case it's not really relevant to bring up Poch or any manager really, it's simply a case of a player being unable to play any other position so he will always be behind Palmer/a bench player. 

I think Noni is an exciting player. Can be frustrating and there's his desire to snatch the ball for a penalty... but i really enjoy the way he dances past people, just needs to add consistency to his final execution pass or shot. Sort of player who can change a game in the latter stages is how I view him right now. 

Clearly, Maresca has to ask the owners if he's in their plans. 

37 minutes ago, Remodez said:

In this particular case it's not really relevant to bring up Poch or any manager really, it's simply a case of a player being unable to play any other position so he will always be behind Palmer/a bench player. 

How do you know he's unable to play any other position if you've just said he's only played there 4 times? 2 goals and 1 assist from 195 minutes at LW would suggest its at least worth a chance when the other options are Sterling and Mudryk (pmsl). 

Willian had only played RW 7 times before we signed him and he did a pretty good job for us there as much as i hate to admit it. Good foil to Hazard on the left, perhaps Madueke could end up being our Willian to Palmer. 

Or lets just never try anything new...

23 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

How do you know he's unable to play any other position if you've just said he's only played there 4 times? 2 goals and 1 assist from 195 minutes at LW would suggest its at least worth a chance when the other options are Sterling and Mudryk (pmsl). 

Willian had only played RW 7 times before we signed him and he did a pretty good job for us there as much as i hate to admit it. Good foil to Hazard on the left, perhaps Madueke could end up being our Willian to Palmer. 

Or lets just never try anything new...

By assessing his strengths and weaknesses. Playing on the left he would be unable to do what he is actually good at which is cutting inside and taking shots. He has no end product so you can't have him running down the left whipping in crosses.

Willian's skillset allows him to play anywhere in the front 3, it wasn't really a gamble to move him to the right. 

I'm not saying we shouldn't try it at all, I'm just saying it's very unlikely to actually work until he's improves his passing.

14 minutes ago, Remodez said:

By assessing his strengths and weaknesses. Playing on the left he would be unable to do what he is actually good at which is cutting inside and taking shots. He has no end product so you can't have him running down the left whipping in crosses.

Willian's skillset allows him to play anywhere in the front 3, it wasn't really a gamble to move him to the right. 

I'm not saying we shouldn't try it at all, I'm just saying it's very unlikely to actually work until he's improves his passing.

Willian is two-footed. Noni doesn't have a right foot, limiting him on the left. Palmer doesn't have a right foot either but he makes up for it in many other excellent ways.

2 minutes ago, Remodez said:

By assessing his strengths and weaknesses. Playing on the left he would be unable to do what he is actually good at which is cutting inside and taking shots. He has no end product so you can't have him running down the left whipping in crosses.

Willian's skillset allows him to play anywhere in the front 3, it wasn't really a gamble to move him to the right. 

I'm not saying we shouldn't try it at all, I'm just saying it's very unlikely to actually work until he's improves his passing.

Consider that perhaps his weaknesses in crossing is the fact he's on the right trying to whip then in on his very weak foot. Willian wasn't exactly Beckham when it came to crosses, was always better on the left at Shakhtar cutting in and shooting. 

5 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Consider that perhaps his weaknesses in crossing is the fact he's on the right trying to whip then in on his very weak foot. Willian wasn't exactly Beckham when it came to crosses, was always better on the left at Shakhtar cutting in and shooting. 

Hence his one real trick is to cut back inside.

12 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Consider that perhaps his weaknesses in crossing is the fact he's on the right trying to whip then in on his very weak foot. Willian wasn't exactly Beckham when it came to crosses, was always better on the left at Shakhtar cutting in and shooting. 

Palmer manages to cross with his right foot. The other option is to cut in and cross with your left which Palmer does often, when madueke does it it's not any more accurate than his right. 

16 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Palmer manages to cross with his right foot. The other option is to cut in and cross with your left which Palmer does often, when madueke does it it's not any more accurate than his right. 

So are we comparing him with our best player now or are we still discussing whether he can play on the opposite side? Nice assist from the cross from Madueke at the weekend btw 

15 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

So are we comparing him with our best player now or are we still discussing whether he can play on the opposite side? Nice assist from the cross from Madueke at the weekend btw 

I'm simply highlighting that it can be done, obviously not the same level of player. Don't really need to speak anymore on whether he can play on the left, countless other managers have come to the same conclusion. 

Edited August 6, 20241 yr by Remodez

39 minutes ago, Remodez said:

Palmer manages to cross with his right foot. The other option is to cut in and cross with your left which Palmer does often, when madueke does it it's not any more accurate than his right. 

Must have blinked and missed it. Watch him run 360º to stay on his left foot.

2 minutes ago, dermott said:

Must have blinked and missed it. Watch him run 360º to stay on his left foot.

He's definitely done it, hard pressed to remember the games though. 

1 hour ago, Remodez said:

I'm simply highlighting that it can be done, obviously not the same level of player. Don't really need to speak anymore on whether he can play on the left, countless other managers have come to the same conclusion. 

It can be done, like Madueke did against City a couple of days ago. Struggle to think of a similar one from Palmer who you state is so efficient at it. Just seems that you don't particularly rate Madueke (which is fine) so are trying to stick with the notion he'll only ever be a bench player than realistically him being our second best winger currently. 

 

I'd keep Noni around because he's a good player for where we are as a club right now. If you play him to his strengths then he can do damage and the club had the opportunity to get better in Olise and sign a game changer but opted not to pay the wages.

Next year is an issue for him because they have 2 new shiny toys coming in and there will be expectations and hype for them to come in and hit the ground running. I just can't see a future for Noni if they have high hopes for Estevao and Kendry but they had high hopes for Mudryk and look how that turned out.

I see him having a similar season to last season just due to Nkunku coming back from injury which will keep Cole on the right. Nkunku has more upside than Noni and has the potential to match Cole in his performances so I just can't see Noni nailing a place.

 

Edited August 8, 20241 yr by Sheva

Apparently a PL club has made a bid for him and are currently negotiating. Nothing concrete confirming it. 

32 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Apparently a PL club has made a bid for him and are currently negotiating. Nothing concrete confirming it. 

Not his biggest fan but I wouldn't sell him just yet. Mostly cause I don't believe anyone will pay us more than the £30m we paid for him but he also deserves another season to prove himself.