35 minutes ago, Niall1905 said:

It's an interesting one, would fit the bill of being able to play across the front and seemingly has good potential. 

However, supposedly the media had been briefed that we were looking for someone with PL experience of which his is limited, and you do wonder why City would be happy to let him go after selling Mahrez. Surely the right was his position to lock down or at least get more minutes. 

They just signed Doku to replace Mahrez, didn’t they? 

35m rejected

4 minutes ago, Dr. Socrates said:

They just signed Doku to replace Mahrez, didn’t they? 

Yes they did. I suspect Cole Palmer will leave City as his path to first team looks blocked there. However to date we have only expressed interest supposedly. Considering the window closes on Friday I am not convinced anything will happen this week.

12 minutes ago, Dr. Socrates said:

They just signed Doku to replace Mahrez, didn’t they? 

Yeah, which I guess was my point. Doku and Palmer are the same age, so they clearly must have doubts about him if they wanted to bring in someone instead of sticking with him

City would apparently want a buy back clause, which for me should be a big no no.

Also can we get a merge @Modueke?

35m bid rejected.

1 minute ago, I am a CPA said:

35m bid rejected.

Man city want £50m

10 minutes ago, I am a CPA said:

35m bid rejected.

Has to be a loan move with wages paid, and an option next summer. I wouldn’t be making any permanent signings this late in the window.

Just now, ducavis said:

Has to be a loan move with wages paid, and an option next summer. I wouldn’t be making any permanent signings this late in the window.

Agreed, Loan with option to buy perhaps

3 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Has to be a loan move with wages paid, and an option next summer. I wouldn’t be making any permanent signings this late in the window.

Agreed. Loan with buy option thar turns in to obligation if certain conditions are met.

5mill loan fee plus 38mill option/obligation on top.

He has talent but we are not getting Foden here.

Seems to be moving pretty quickly: 

I don't get why he would want to trade cities bench for ours? Who's spot does he think he takes now, or worse when Nkunku is fit?

1 minute ago, axman2526 said:

I don't get why he would want to trade cities bench for ours? Who's spot does he think he takes now, or worse when Nkunku is fit?

Agree.

If we sign him and put him on a 7+ year contract then what does that tell the likes of Angelo and how does that do well for players like Mudryk, Noni and Carney who are all on long term contracts. Those guys are our investments, we don't need another one playing in those positions, I get it if you want to cover injuries but I don't see why we can't find an experienced head on a short term contract because you have someone to learn from and someone who's not going to be on the books long term.

We are crying out for a Giroud type signing just to push us to top 4 this season and then build from there.

Palmer could be good but so can Carney, Mudryk and Noni. Nobody is a guarentee and we all look at Foden and say he's the perfect example but he was playing with big players, big personalities in training week in week out.

2 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

I don't get why he would want to trade cities bench for ours? Who's spot does he think he takes now, or worse when Nkunku is fit?

Mudryk's/Chillwell's/Carney's probably. And I wouldn'r bet against him on that 

Just now, Sheva said:

If we sign him and put him on a 7+ year contract then what does that tell the likes of Angelo and how does that do well for players like Mudryk, Noni and Carney who are all on long term contracts. Those guys are our investments, we don't need another one playing in those positions, I get it if you want to cover injuries but I don't see why we can't find an experienced head on a short term contract because you have someone to learn from and someone who's not going to be on the books long term.

We are crying out for a Giroud type signing just to push us to top 4 this season and then build from there.

Palmer could be good but so can Carney, Mudryk and Noni. Nobody is a guarentee and we all look at Foden and say he's the perfect example but he was playing with big players, big personalities in training week in week out.

Not to mention they have Sterling and Nkunku blocking their paths already.

1 minute ago, NestorGarde said:

Mudryk's/Chillwell's/Carney's probably. And I wouldn'r bet against him on that 

And when Nkunku is fit?

5 minutes ago, axman2526 said:

And when Nkunku is fit?

I can see the front 4 being Nkunku, Sterling, Palmer, Jackson.  Palmer, and Nkunku dropping in between the lines, in half spaces. Very mobile, huge attacking potential there. 

The sad truth is that Mudryk and Madueke aren't ready.  Not sure when they will be or if they have enough talent for CFC. Still,  I have more faith in Noni than Mudryk though. Him and Palmer looked good playing together in England U-21 (Palmer played centrally).

13 minutes ago, Sheva said:

If we sign him and put him on a 7+ year contract then what does that tell the likes of Angelo and how does that do well for players like Mudryk, Noni and Carney who are all on long term contracts. Those guys are our investments, we don't need another one playing in those positions, I get it if you want to cover injuries but I don't see why we can't find an experienced head on a short term contract because you have someone to learn from and someone who's not going to be on the books long term.

We are crying out for a Giroud type signing just to push us to top 4 this season and then build from there.

Palmer could be good but so can Carney, Mudryk and Noni. Nobody is a guarentee and we all look at Foden and say he's the perfect example but he was playing with big players, big personalities in training week in week out.

I think the plan is to have 2 very talented young players fighting for every position. Thus creating a spirit of brotherhood and competition.

Might work in an exciting way. Might also turn toxic at some point though.

Pleas to sign a Giroud type player are rational and perhaps would work better short term, also in terms of morale. But it's clearly not Clearlake's MO 

£45m seems a lot for a player that sits on the bench once Nkunku is fit enough.

16 minutes ago, NestorGarde said:

I can see the front 4 being Nkunku, Sterling, Palmer, Jackson.  Palmer, and Nkunku dropping in between the lines, in half spaces. Very mobile, huge attacking potential there. 

The sad truth is that Mudryk and Madueke aren't ready.  Not sure when they will be or if they have enough talent for CFC. Still,  I have more faith in Noni than Mudryk though. Him and Palmer looked good playing together in England U-21 (Palmer played centrally).

Long contracts to shift for Noni and Mudryk if we give up on them. Not to mention Mudryks price tag.

So we're effectively going to be funding Man City's purchase of Nunes.

18 minutes ago, NestorGarde said:

I think the plan is to have 2 very talented young players fighting for every position. Thus creating a spirit of brotherhood and competition.

Might work in an exciting way. Might also turn toxic at some point though.

Pleas to sign a Giroud type player are rational and perhaps would work better short term, also in terms of morale. But it's clearly not Clearlake's MO 

Yup I agree and it seems to be the way to dodge FFP due to low salaries. Though I think it has a huge risk because we are banking on young players with the exception of 1 and 2 to finish top 4 next season. How are they are going to deal with pressure at the big grounds, how are they going to deal with the pressure of the last games on the run in at the end of the season. If we are content with finishing outside the top 4 and building them I am all for it but if we have expectations of winning things now then I think we are being unrealistic because at times this season we are going to be a team that often will go missing.

If we sign someone like Ivan Toney, just a name I am throwing out there then you know what you are getting for the money you are paying. If you sign someone like Mudryk then you are gambling. It makes sense if you try this once or twice but if you have multiple gambles then the risk is far greater because we won't earn the money back we've paid for a Mudryk. There's already people on this forum who are calling him awful and not good enough, he's on an 8 year contract!

At one point a good few of these signings will go south as it always does, we signed the best youngster in the world at 21 years old for a record fee and his name was Kai Havertz. Cole Palmer is no where near at the level Kai Havertz was at Leverkusen. We all expected Havertz to be with us long term and be one of our best players and it did not work out, sure we made our money back a bit by selling him to Arsenal but I still wish he was still here with furfilled potential.

We potentially have numerous Kai Havertz situations on our hands and I do have faith in Pochettino to come through and do well but history tells us nothing is ever straight forward at this club.

Edited August 30, 20232 yr by Sheva

52 minutes ago, ducavis said:

Has to be a loan move with wages paid, and an option next summer. I wouldn’t be making any permanent signings this late in the window.

that would be brilliant. But 40 million not 50. or 35 with add ons

He looks very similar to Madueke. Have we given up on him already?