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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...sea/7573135.stm

Well according to one of their directors (so hardly a reliable source)

However if it is true then it, combined with the fact we have let Pizarro go out on loan, would be a clear sign that Scolari is going to show faith in Di Santo as this would leave us with just Drogba, Anelka and Di Santo (with Kalou who isn't really a centre forward)

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...sea/7573135.stm

Well according to one of their directors (so hardly a reliable source)

However if it is true then it, combined with the face we have let Pizarro go out on loan, would be a clear sign that Scolari is going to show faith in Di Santo as this would leave us with just Drogba, Anelka and Di Santo (with Kalou who isn't really a centre forward)

And may mean we're closer to getting Robinho?

I still think we missed a chance to give the kid his home debut while 3-0 up at home though.

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Am i the only one who still thinks he could do a good job given a couple of starts?

I think he could as well however I think it would take more than a couple of starts to get him anywhere near match fit or match sharp and that is a luxury we probably can't afford. I would also say that Drogba and Anelka are clearly ahead of him in the pecking order now and hanging onto Sheva would just limit the opportunities for Di Santo.

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Am i the only one who still thinks he could do a good job given a couple of starts?

I imagine there are a few from the 'This is the season Sheva come's good' brigade, but apart from a stunning strike against Spurs I think he has done relatively little in a blue shirt. Sheva will be remembered for his time in England as a £30m flop and possibley one of the reasons Jose got the boot.

If it took a £30m mistake for Roman to learn the lesson that ONLY managers should sign the players they want, then let's hope it's a lesson learned!

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he could be very good for us, but he's behind two players for one position, so the chance of getting enough time to impress is low. so it's not likely, but the football we played, and having deco, would suit his game.

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I imagine there are a few from the 'This is the season Sheva come's good' brigade, but apart from a stunning strike against Spurs I think he has done relatively little in a blue shirt.

I wouldn't entirely agree with that. I do accept entirely that overall he has disappointed for a player of his reputation but I do think that in Jose's last full season when he played Sheva and Drogba together one of two things happened. He either played Sheva as the furthest forward striker with Drogba playing deeper and in those games Drogba impressed and Sheva was poor. or he did the opposite with Drogba leading the line and Sheva playing behind him - in those games Sheva impressed and Drogba disappointed. What caused it was the fact that we played with so much distance between our midfield and main striker that the deeper lying striker actually got involved in the game and the furthest forward was isolated.

Also in Grant's season I thought he was looking a lot better before he got injured and then when he got fit again he never got a look in.

With Deco in the team and Scolari playing things a little differently I could see Sheva contributing well however for the reasons I put above I think we should let him go if the opportunity rears its head.

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I'm kinda happy about this, as long as we get Aguero, Berbatov or Huntelaar in as a replacement. :lol:

Kalou isn't an out and out striker.

Anelka isn't good enough.

Di Santo isn't ready.

If we bring in someone else then Di Santo will never be ready as we won't be selling Anelka so it will push Di Santo totally out of the reckoning . Every now and again (and not too irregularly either) we need to push a youngster on and we can onyl do that by placing a little faith in them. Ferguson is doing it with Campbell at the moment due to injuries and whether that proves to be a correct call remains to be seen but at least they are prepared to do it.

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i genuinly believe this is part of a future kaka deal. last i heard sheva was going nowhere especially milan on loan but now (supposidly)here he goes.... def think kaka will be here next season

p.s give di santo the chance he needs especially in the matches we are running away with which will be quite a few hopefully

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If we bring in someone else then Di Santo will never be ready as we won't be selling Anelka so it will push Di Santo totally out of the reckoning . Every now and again (and not too irregularly either) we need to push a youngster on and we can onyl do that by placing a little faith in them. Ferguson is doing it with Campbell at the moment due to injuries and whether that proves to be a correct call remains to be seen but at least they are prepared to do it.

I reckon Di Santo's got the bollocks and confidence to take the step up, wouldn't surprise me to see him as number two in the second half of the season. If Drogba stays I've got a hunch he'll be injured on a regular basis

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No

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If this is the end of the Sheva diaries, I can hardly believe it. I hope we get some kind of fee out of him but I really believed having a genuine, central creative influence in Deco might turn Sheva's fortunes around.

The problem with his time here was we expected him to pick up where Drogba left off. Last time I checked, Drogba was at his best when he was making his own chances, something Sheva seems incapable of doing at his age. He wasnt the right fit unless we had a player who could really feed him the ball. And obviously, that hasnt come to pass until this season.

I just find it very very very hard to accept that a player who has proven his class as one of the greats of the game time and time again failed, and was relegated to the back of the bench for two years. I dont know whether I should blame Sheva, Jose, Roman or whoever.

If this is an extended loan, god help us. We're gonna be laughed at until the end of time. Sheva can take his place next to Seba Veron in English football lore, but at least the Mancs mugged us for him and made some of that back.

Please god, Roman, get us a striker. Seeing David Villa take the number seven would take ALOT of the sting off my favorite non-Chelsea player flopping

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And may mean we're closer to getting Robinho?

I still think we missed a chance to give the kid his home debut while 3-0 up at home though.

To be fair it was his first official game in charge of a new club in a new league. He needs to get a feel for it before he starts taking chances.

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i genuinly believe this is part of a future kaka deal.

I agree - except I think there are a good few reasons why it might still happen in the next week or so.

1. We saw Scolari play Joe Cole in exactly Kaka's role against Portsmouth - dropping off the loan striker, and still allowing us to play all our big guns in central midfield.

2. Buy the noises coming out of Madrid, the Robinho deal has all but fallen through. With a good 10 days or so of the transfer window left, we still have time to go in for another player.

3. Milan need the money now. Not in a year's time. They need to do some serious rebuilding otherwise they will have the same poor season that they had last year - which is unacceptable for a club of their stature.

4. Both Sheva and Ivanovic have been very heavily linked with moves to Milan in the last few days. If Milan were going to sell Kaka to us, it would look a lot better (for both sides) to have an undisclosed players + cash deal, so that Kaka's actual value was not speculated on.

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I agree - except I think there are a good few reasons why it might still happen in the next week or so.

1. We saw Scolari play Joe Cole in exactly Kaka's role against Portsmouth - dropping off the loan striker, and still allowing us to play all our big guns in central midfield.

2. Buy the noises coming out of Madrid, the Robinho deal has all but fallen through. With a good 10 days or so of the transfer window left, we still have time to go in for another player.

3. Milan need the money now. Not in a year's time. They need to do some serious rebuilding otherwise they will have the same poor season that they had last year - which is unacceptable for a club of their stature.

4. Both Sheva and Ivanovic have been very heavily linked with moves to Milan in the last few days. If Milan were going to sell Kaka to us, it would look a lot better (for both sides) to have an undisclosed players + cash deal, so that Kaka's actual value was not speculated on.

1. And Joey did a great job in it. Kaká is the worlds best player in that position.

2. Still open from the reports of today. Stories in skysports. Will continue to be that way until the end of this month.

3. Milan is in deep as their age structure in players and if their financies(who knows really) are in bad shape. They need some experience in the attack and certainly in defence. Ivanovic would be a great signing for them IMO and for us if it is a loan deal. Ivanovic has all the makings of a top class defenceman.

4. If Drogba throws down his toys for the last time this year and is at sickbay most of the season, Sheva could come handy as it Would leave us with Anelka and DiSanto. Kalou wouldn't do as a lone striker IMO.

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He can stay and fight all he wants, he can learn Judo and Kung Fu, it still wont get him in the starting 11.

Worst bit of transfer dealing in the history of the club and possibley ever.

He cost £30m, wasn't wanted by the manager, and eventually the bad feeling cost us the best manager we've ever had.

Now we're loaning him back to the club who mugged us for him and are paying part of his wages.

I cannot see one bit of sense in the dealing of this situation, either at this arrival or departure.

It may well eventually lead us to signing Kaka, but he'll be way over priced and a player we don't really need, do we really need Kaka in the midfield we currently have? He's a luxury but not a necessity.

Crazy, Crazy, Crazy!

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Agree entirely Bluenut,

Things like this make me a bit depressed to be honest. How can we have been so unbelievably short sighted with this ridiculous dea?

On the one hand, I want Sheva to stay and come good, and at least justify a tiny bit of his exorbitant fee, as I like the guy.

On the other, I find his presence at the club a massive embarrassment to be honest, and maybe we should get rid, close that sorry chapter in our post-Roman life, and move on as quickly as we can...

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He COULD have been good for us, but Jose refused to use him properly, and i think time has caught up with him.

A shame that ONCE AGAIN we do not get this basic principle that if you no longer want a player you SELL HIM. Apparently we are (once again) set to pay at least some of the wages. Pathetic...

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He COULD have been good for us, but Jose refused to use him properly, and i think time has caught up with him.

A shame that ONCE AGAIN we do not get this basic principle that if you no longer want a player you SELL HIM. Apparently we are (once again) set to pay at least some of the wages. Pathetic...

It wasn't Jose's fault he turned slower than an ocean liner. It wasn't Jose's fault he had better players at his disposal, it wasn't Jose's signing so what do you do with a player you didn't ask for? Use him as best you can to keep the chairman happy?

Jose didn't want him, Filipe has told him he's surplus to requirements and by all account's Anchelotti doesn't want him back and would, according to reports, also prefer Drogba.

He was once a great striker, but he isn't the best in the world anymore, he wasn't the best in the premier league or even Chelsea, and will not be the best striker in Italy once he returns there either, even with Kaka!!! Every dog has it's day and 3 of the best managers in the world seem to agree Sheva's had he's. It's sad to see, and I wanted him to come good as much as the next man, but I'd tend to agree with 3 of the best manager's around, rather than a couple of egotistic chairman who don't really know a great deal about the game!

Thanks Sheva, but cheerio

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