loz Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Hardly seems worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 were we really that bad that i cant pick out a man of the match jeeeezzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 For me Lampard is the only one worth considering. Cech and Alex can join him on the plane home, the rest of them can hitchhike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'll give my vote to Alex for looking interested, another one where the manager would get a worst player vote had this been last season, clueless what to do after the first goal...woeful. Roma took their cgances well but chances they should never have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'll give my vote to Alex for looking interested,another one where the manager would get a worst player vote had this been last season, clueless what to do after the first goal...woeful. Roma took their cgances well but chances they should never have had. I do recall there being lengthy and loud accusations about Grant not being able to win big matches - I wonder how much grace Scolari will get because so far he has probably looked more inept than Grant did when things are going against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virosh Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Pretty poor tonight - Lamps gets it for being the only one trying, but very, very poor performance. I am not worried, though. We are still top, carefree :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 I see the forum moron has voted again. Anelka today, Mineiro on Saturday etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizeH Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I went for Deco because I can't believe that f**king referee sent him off for taking a clever quick free kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'll give my vote to Alex for looking interested,another one where the manager would get a worst player vote had this been last season, clueless what to do after the first goal...woeful. Roma took their cgances well but chances they should never have had. I voted for Alex too. I agree that the manager should shoulder the blame for that debacle. We were in control, gave away a sloppy goal and then he panicked at half time. I'm all for pretty football but we have to show some balls too and patience. At 1-0 a draw would have been a good result. Instead we get caught on the break with only two back - not once, but twice - within minutes of the break. That's now one win, a draw and two losses against decent teams. 5-0's against the likes of Sunderland aren't going to win PL's or CL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I do recall there being lengthy and loud accusations about Grant not being able to win big matches - I wonder how much grace Scolari will get because so far he has probably looked more inept than Grant did when things are going against us? It's not only the big match question that is relevant here, It's the ability to change games when we are in the sh*te...Grant had to try to do it without the luxury of having brought in any players to suit the style he wanted to play yet the excuse for us not being able to change things is we missed out on Robino :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I voted for Alex too.I agree that the manager should shoulder the blame for that debacle. We were in control, gave away a sloppy goal and then he panicked at half time. I'm all for pretty football but we have to show some balls too and patience. At 1-0 a draw would have been a good result. Instead we get caught on the break with only two back - not once, but twice - within minutes of the break. That's now one win, a draw and two losses against decent teams. 5-0's against the likes of Sunderland aren't going to win PL's or CL's. Funny as I got the bet on late and just after they scored I thought ...glad I only got the 1-1 on as we have got plenty of time and if we're patient we should get back in this. It is a worrying pattern forming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack h Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Wheres the option for the fans who payed their hard earned money to go watch that sh*te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibs Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I went for Deco because I can't believe that f**king referee sent him off for taking a clever quick free kick. Deco? For me he was one of the worst after Mikel. Too laid back and a bit of a luxury tonight. Really hope he isn't going to avoid being subbed 'cos he's Big Phils favourite. But no-one gets a vote tonight. Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Cech - Nothing exceptional. Although not at fault for any of the goals, didn't do anything particularly good to stop any of them. Kudos for his tackle on their striker at the end. - 6 Bosingwa - Again, nothing exceptional. None of the tight defending I've enjoyed from him recently, and was ineffective going forward. - 5 Alex - Our most effective defender by far. Some of his slide tackles were just perfection. Although he was caught out of position a few times, it's tackles like that which make me wonder why he isn't first choice... - 7 JT - Massive blooper for their first goal, but made up for it by scoring a questionable one at the other end. Not as consistent as we've been used to, but did cover for Alex in the gaps he did leave. Had no chance with the third goal, and the second was just pure excellence. Bridge - Proven time and time again that he is just not Chelsea standard. Not only was he poor in defence, poor going forward, but he also wasted a valuable chance at a time in which we could not afford to... - 4 Mikel - Not nearly as good as he has been, but he did show some good distribution. Horrible, horrible error for their third. - 6 Lampard - Utterly dire. I don't think he made a single decent touch in the second half. As much as I hate to say this, was probably our worst man on the night, other than the usual suspects. You know we're getting desperate when Lampard starts making hopeless long shots from miles out... - 4 Deco - Reasonably good. Showed some good touches here and there, but our hopeless forward line just couldn't convert them. Pathetic refereeing to send him off, which completely destroyed any momentum we had. - 7 Malouda - The less said the better. Good for the first twenty minutes, then hopeless. Why he is still in our starting eleven I don't know. - 4 Joe Cole - Like Malouda, only without the dramatic tail-off towards the end of the first half. - 5 Anelka - I'm gonna get some stick for this, but he's growing on me. It's perfectly clear the boy can't score. But he's trying. He wants to be there, and some of his build up play, especially towards the end was sublime. He made some excellent passes, set up the hopeless Lampard, Drogba and Malouda with countless chances, which they couldn't convert. He even got back and covered for the defence at times. This was a great showing, we just need someone he can feed goals to. - 7.5 Subs: Drogba - Clearly not entirely fit, but did show some of his old spunk with some of his runs and chances. Still not close to being the player he was last year though. - 5 Kalou - Had some good runs and broke through the midfield a few times, but to no avail. Showed promise, however - 6 Belletti - Worked hard, but a disappointing outing from Belletti considering what we've come to see from him lately. I was hoping he'd try and crack one in towards the end, but sadly didn't. Some good runs down the right, and let's be fair, should be starting over Malouda. - 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Deco? For me he was one of the worst after Mikel. Too laid back and a bit of a luxury tonight. Really hope he isn't going to avoid being subbed 'cos he's Big Phils favourite.But no-one gets a vote tonight. Shameful. Exact words I used to my missus when I said he was likely going to end up getting sent off...I would have Ballack or Essien in front of him all day long against decent opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack h Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Cech - Nothing exceptional. Although not at fault for any of the goals, didn't do anything particularly good to stop any of them. Kudos for his tackle on their striker at the end. - 6Bosingwa - Again, nothing exceptional. None of the tight defending I've enjoyed from him recently, and was ineffective going forward. - 5 Alex - Our most effective defender by far. Some of his slide tackles were just perfection. Although he was caught out of position a few times, it's tackles like that which make me wonder why he isn't first choice... - 7 JT - Massive blooper for their first goal, but made up for it by scoring a questionable one at the other end. Not as consistent as we've been used to, but did cover for Alex in the gaps he did leave. Had no chance with the third goal, and the second was just pure excellence. Bridge - Proven time and time again that he is just not Chelsea standard. Not only was he poor in defence, poor going forward, but he also wasted a valuable chance at a time in which we could not afford to... - 4 Mikel - Not nearly as good as he has been, but he did show some good distribution. Horrible, horrible error for their third. - 6 Lampard - Utterly dire. I don't think he made a single decent touch in the second half. As much as I hate to say this, was probably our worst man on the night, other than the usual suspects. You know we're getting desperate when Lampard starts making hopeless long shots from miles out... - 4 Deco - Reasonably good. Showed some good touches here and there, but our hopeless forward line just couldn't convert them. Pathetic refereeing to send him off, which completely destroyed any momentum we had. - 7 Malouda - The less said the better. Good for the first twenty minutes, then hopeless. Why he is still in our starting eleven I don't know. - 4 Joe Cole - Like Malouda, only without the dramatic tail-off towards the end of the first half. - 5 Anelka - I'm gonna get some stick for this, but he's growing on me. It's perfectly clear the boy can't score. But he's trying. He wants to be there, and some of his build up play, especially towards the end was sublime. He made some excellent passes, set up the hopeless Lampard, Drogba and Malouda with countless chances, which they couldn't convert. He even got back and covered for the defence at times. This was a great showing, we just need someone he can feed goals to. - 7.5 Subs: Drogba - Clearly not entirely fit, but did show some of his old spunk with some of his runs and chances. Still not close to being the player he was last year though. - 5 Kalou - Had some good runs and broke through the midfield a few times, but to no avail. Showed promise, however - 6 Belletti - Worked hard, but a disappointing outing from Belletti considering what we've come to see from him lately. I was hoping he'd try and crack one in towards the end, but sadly didn't. Some good runs down the right, and let's be fair, should be starting over Malouda. - 6 you give anelka a 7.5 yet say bridge isnt chelsea quality......a bit ironic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibs Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Mikel - Not nearly as good as he has been, but he did show some good distribution. Horrible, horrible error for their third. - 6 Sorry, but you cannot give Mikel 6 tonight. 2 or 3 yes but 6? Why not give him another 4 and make it a 10? I can see what Liam has been getting at now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 you give anelka a 7.5 yet say bridge isnt chelsea quality......a bit ironic I disagree. We're basing this entirely on the fact that Anelka is hopeless at finishing. But play him back a bit, as we did in the second half here, and we've got a world-class player. Get in an RVN-style finisher and pair him up with Anelka, and you've got a title-winning partnership. Anelka made some great chances in the second half, whereas Bridge offered absolutely nothing all game. And look at his record with other clubs... and the small matter of being current Premiership Top Scorer. I can see why you'd disagree with me, but have faith in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I haven't voted and I won't. None of the team came out with much credit, if any, certainly not enough to warrant any kind of award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Sorry, but you cannot give Mikel 6 tonight. 2 or 3 yes but 6? Why not give him another 4 and make it a 10?I can see what Liam has been getting at now!! Mmm.. I think I meant to give him a four or a five. I can't see why I'd have rated him as good as Cech or Kalou in that game :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy66 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 None of the above,does this count are we not as good as we thought or was this just one of those things? :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_mac Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Toss up between Lampard and Alex for me, but went with Lampard as he looked the only one who gave a flying **** in the mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBeard Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I voted Alex - he was the only one who can look back on this game with his pride intact. Add to that he was having to try and cover for JT's lack of pace all evening. Generally though, the entire team were sh*te - they should hang their heads in shame after that 'performance'. Scolari more than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byatt Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Alex for me, everyone else was poor, including Lamps i'm afraid to say, when we lost posession he was too busy watching rather than trying to win it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjd Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Alex. Whoever voted Deco needs banning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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