Dixons

I don't read either paper. Did not vote to leave and have never voted Tory. So yet more typical leftwing stereotyping.
I get all my info from watching parliament TV (and lots of it) and TV shows like politics live on bbc2. It's all from the horses mouths, not biased rags or online sh*t.
Oh, and the so called "peoples party" are actually very good at putting those very people out of work and into poverty, as every single Labour government has done by leaving office with more people unemployed than when they took power. Quite a record is that!
 

To be "writing him off" would mean fans saying he's not good enough, never will be good enough, so we might as well get rid. I haven't seen anyone on here say anything like that, just as they never said it about Pulisic either!
I personally think CHO has been a bit overrated and overhyped which has led to expectations being too high and him being pushed too quickly, resulting in him being in the England team when he's clearly not ready for it or done anything to deserve it. None of that is doing him any favours at all!
He should be left to quietly get on with improving his game over the next couple of years, not this got til the end of the season nonsense.
If he's not good enough in a couple of years,  then it will be time to start saying he's not good enough for Chelsea.
 

Zouma had a worse injury and it's taken years of hard work and determination for him to get back to a level where it's no longer a problem for him. So, we could be looking at a few years rather than months before CHO is really fit and good enough for a regular starting place in the team.  A lot of hard work ahead for him to make it at Chelsea.

First of all, I do understand all the possible reasons for his recent poor form. His young age, coming back from a bad injury, lack of confidence as a result of that, not having the loan experience our other young players profited from, all that I can understand and I'm totally on board when it comes to being patient.
My problem with CHO has nothing to do with any of the above. It's his attitude on the pitch that I'm puzzled with. I can live with an occasional mistake, a misplaced pass or poor judgment due to lack of experience or a long layoff because of an injury. But where's the effort? Where's the hunger, the desire to prove himself on a big stage, to impress Southgate and stake his claim for the Euro squad? Am I missing something? Or is he a prime Messi who doesn't have to concern himself with the  ball recovery especially since he was the biggest culprit last night when it came to conceding possession? When his team is without the ball, he may as well take a day off. Most of the time he seems to be strolling around, like he doesn't have a care in the world.
He lost his starting spot to Pulisic and rightly so. He needs to adjust his attitude nad realize he needs to fight for the place just like everybody else and start delivering on that promise everyone keeps talking about.

I know fans turned against him, but Gallas was a steal for 6 million.  Cudicini for 300 grand. 

Absolutely. Morata said as much the other day, that he knew the players had no faith in him. Irrespective as to whether they actually didnt, the fact he convinced himself of that says it all about his mental fragility. 
Further underlines how crucial the mental side of the game is, seems far more important than natural or "god given" talent. 
Speaking of. My God he was awful. Can just about laugh at these now. 

Plus a genuine passion and determination to well for Chelsea, which is something i felt Morata and Torres never really had deep in their hearts. 
I also like the way he accepts a few bad misses and even poor games and just gets on with it,  looking for the next chance and the next goal. I always felt Torres (in his Chelsea days) and Morata dwelled on their missed chances and poor games and that affected them longterm.
 

Plus a genuine passion and determination to well for Chelsea, which is something i felt Morata and Torres never really had deep in their hearts. 
I also like the way he accepts a few bad misses and even poor games and just gets on with it,  looking for the next chance and the next goal. I always felt Torres (in his Chelsea days) and Morata dwelled on their missed chances and poor games and that affected them longterm.
 

Plus a genuine passion and determination to well for Chelsea, which is something i felt Morata and Torres never really had deep in their hearts. 
I also like the way he accepts a few bad misses and even poor games and just gets on with it,  looking for the next chance and the next goal. I always felt Torres (in his Chelsea days) and Morata dwelled on their missed chances and poor games and that affected them longterm.
 

Plus a genuine passion and determination to well for Chelsea, which is something i felt Morata and Torres never really had deep in their hearts. 
I also like the way he accepts a few bad misses and even poor games and just gets on with it,  looking for the next chance and the next goal. I always felt Torres (in his Chelsea days) and Morata dwelled on their missed chances and poor games and that affected them longterm.
 

I remember going to Luton for the first time, losing my mates and ending up in the Luton fans end wearing my Chelsea shirt.  Height of hooligan era, so lucky i didn't get my head kicked in.                                                 Btw. What a sh*thole that place was. Just some flimsy cowsheds around the pitch.

Up it further with 11 million for our current manager. Bargain of the century!

I know fans turned against him, but Gallas was a steal for 6 million.  Cudicini for 300 grand. 

Still work to be done on the defence with crosses into the box, especially from deadball situations.

Stfu you idiot lol.

I thought the same too!
He's comeback amazingly well after that game at UTD. Crucially, he's moving well now and making very few errors of anykind.
 

This kind of game is the only time I miss Jose. He was a master at closing out these tough 1-0 games.

Pulisic's touch and ball control under pressure is as good, if not better than Hazard's.

Fair points, except the bit about me not having the right to criticise because i don't go to the games. I think that's a bit unfair. When i had the time and money i went to games as often as i could home and away. Long journeys, taking time off work, getting home at all hours after night games and stuck by the team when we were broke, really sh*te and the ground half empty. I just can't go at this moment in time..

Pity he's so sh*t at being a defender, which is his job after all.

I think Kova's shortcomings when he gets to the pen box has to a mental thing. He's so technically sound allover the pitch, yet plays like a pub footballer with a hangover when he reaches the edge of the box.  Still, he was excellent for the team yesterday and that's what matters most.

Similar to Luiz in some ways - Very flawed player but certainly made important contributions as well. 

I don't even really want to give Alonso too much grief. He's won titles with us. He's been a good signing. He makes the most of what he's got. He's scored some big goals. He put two past Tottenham at Wembley. He just hasn't got the attributes to be a top class full-back, like Reece James has. It's not his fault.

Great game and full credit to both teams!
Us for coming back after being so piss poor in the first half and them for dominating the first half and still trying to win with 9 men. So, imo, a draw was a fair result.
 

They said Frank said it all so didn't bother. In other words, they all thought it was a joke decision so no further comment needed.