Kenyon on borrowed time .... ?

[Star]

A work colleague of mine was doing a bit of media work in Milan at the weekend and rumours ( those associated within the hierachy of both Inter and AC Milan - concrete stuff 100%) are circulating that Peter Kenyon has upset both clubs with his pursuit of A) PATO B) MAICON in a manner where UEFA should take action.

It is said that Roman is fed up with his under hand tactics and is finally thinking in the lines of the majority of Chelsea fans, myself included, realising that the bloke is a liability and not the person to deal with the finances or branding of our beloved club.

Deco and Carvalho's move to Inter are being held up because of the moves to replace Kenyon, it is reported in Italy that Arneson and wait for it Hiddink are involved in negotiations for the purchase of Zhircov ( Ah, he did not lie to my fiance' !)

[moi]

( Ah, he did not lie to my fiance' !)

You have a fiancé? Is this your subtle way of outing yourself?

[Gem]

Assuming all is true...

If Peter Kenyon has managed to f**k up a deal as important as Pato could be then he needs to be out on his arse quick so we can get someone new in who is able to close these signings.

[geezer]

http://www.theshedend.com/index.php?showtopic=11710

Bit behind the times mate. Amongst those 'in the know' it's been well circulated PK's days are pretty much near their end mainly because of his stance of Scolari.

I've been saying for a while that Arnesen has been doing much of the work only for this to be shot down by some (including you)

Edited June 29, 2009 by geezer

[Bridgeboy]

About time too, this wally should have been sent packing straight after the Robinho situation. Not have Robinho probably cost us another cup last season. EPL or CL I think we could have one at least 1 of them with an extra 15 goals last season.

[TheWestwayWonder]

Despite the well worn territory of his screwups, Kenyon's time here has seen us sign many lucerative deals and steadily climb in value estimated by the financial rankings in football. I think, in that regard alone, he has been a success. But as far as his meddling in the football side of things, he really has been a disaster most of the time. That territory is well worn.

In ten years we might look back with the benefit of hindsight and cite Peter Kenyon as one of the reasons CFC became/will become a global force in football. Wouldnt that be something?

Then again, in this case what's good for the goose isnt always good for the gander

edit: all that said, I still dont like the man or the things he has done, but in retrospect I have been harsh

Edited June 29, 2009 by TheWestwayWonder

[Uno]

We should never have hired him in the first place

[Valerie]

We didn't, Roman did!

Edited June 29, 2009 by Valerie

[Uno]

You know what i mean

[Jesper Gronkjaer]

Does anyone actually know anything that Kenyon has done except for f**king up the Robinho deal and being an absolute prick in general?...

[Gem]

Does anyone actually know anything that Kenyon has done except for f**king up the Robinho deal and being an absolute prick in general?...

Best. Username. Ever!

[c3blu]

Best. Username. Ever!

Yeah, but you'd better not make him cross

[bjd]

Does anyone actually know anything that Kenyon has done except for f**king up the Robinho deal and being an absolute prick in general?...

To be fair, Kenyon did bring the most successful manager and biggest personality the club have ever had to the Chelsea. If we are listing all his faux pas that shouldn't be forgotten.

[geezer]

To be fair, Kenyon did bring the most successful manager and biggest personality the club have ever had to the Chelsea. If we are listing all his faux pas that shouldn't be forgotten.

I don't recall Avram Grant winning anything

[c3blu]

To be fair, Kenyon did bring the most successful manager and biggest personality the club have ever had to the Chelsea. If we are listing all his faux pas that shouldn't be forgotten.

Then he let him go.

[moi]

Then he let him go.

I think Roman had something to do with that..

[fester]

Whilst far from impressed with PK and our lack of success in securing the "big deals" in the transfer market, now would seem a bizarre time to get rid of him. It would make much more sense in September after the transfer window has closed, so I wouldn' expect anything to happen until then.

In defence of PK I think that the club are trying to keep a much tighter control on costs etc that the media would have us believe, and that there are defined wage structures at the club, which may cause issues when trying to attract the very top players. In addition in the past we have missed out on players because we were a threat to the selling club. Real could sell Robinho to Citeh without feeling any threat, but selling him to us meant they were strengthening a Champions League competitor.

Having said all that PK is well paid to break down those sorts of barriers.

[Gem]

Yeah, but you'd better not make him cross

Heyoooooooy

[Sheva]

Fact is nobody knows how Chelsea is run, how kenyon works, how roman works. People bash Kenyon when they have no idea on whats going on. Do i think he is a saint? no but i fail too see how people know so much about him too see how he works.

People only bash him cause he was a manc. If we fail to sign a player, we blame Kenyon with no other reasons. Ever thought that a player doesn't want to come to us? Nothing Kenyon can do.

[dkw]

Fact is nobody knows how Chelsea is run, how kenyon works, how roman works. People bash Kenyon when they have no idea on whats going on. Do i think he is a saint? no but i fail too see how people know so much about him too see how he works.

People only bash him cause he was a manc. If we fail to sign a player, we blame Kenyon with no other reasons. Ever thought that a player doesn't want to come to us? Nothing Kenyon can do.

thats pretty much my view too mate. we sign a player, its well done roman and the manager. we miss out on a player, its kenyons fault.

[TheWestwayWonder]

thats pretty much my view too mate. we sign a player, its well done roman and the manager. we miss out on a player, its kenyons fault.

I have been as guilty as anyone of that kind of thinking, but ive certainly had to take a step back from that too.

However, between picking up runner-up medals ahead of the team and other public displays like PiniZhavi and Chashley-gate, he has certainly done himself no favors.

The way I see it, PK's job here is done. He has made mistakes, but we are on an upward trend to being one of the most profitable clubs on earth. Of course now we need to sustain that on the pitch for the next decade or two

[loz]

thats pretty much my view too mate. we sign a player, its well done roman and the manager. we miss out on a player, its kenyons fault.

It also seems to fit for players sold as well. When the rumour first broke that we were selling Carlo there was no shortage of people blaming Kenyon. Then it was rumoured the deal was off and people gave Scolari credit for blocking the transfer. Then the deal went ahead and people blamed Kenyon again. The truth of the matter is not one of those people had a bloody clue who had influence, if any, over the transfer - it was just handy to point the finger at Kenyon. Even more amusing was that nobody pointed the finger at Carlo for choosing to go to Spurs!

I also remember Kenyon getting all the blame for the Robinho deal not going through - I also remember people saying that Kenyon should have had alternatives to Robinho lined up (even though it is the manager's job to identify targets) - this was in the day when Scolari was considered great. Scolari turned out to be not so great and suddenly he was criticised for not having a plan B.

Kenyon was also blamed on here for us not securing Hughes or Ancelotti as a manager when we were managerless for a matter of weeks last summer. Is he now getting the credit for getting Ancelotti because I don't see it anywhere.

Kenyon has made mistakes in his time with us (as have Roman, Jose, Grant, Ranieri, Scolari, Buck... OK Hiddink didn't!) but the extent to which people are desperate to point the finger of blame in his direction at every opportunity, often without having the foggiest facts to actually base that blame on, borders on being ridiculous.

[TomP]

I don't personally like the guy, but, he does have a pretty difficult job.

It must be pretty hard to drive a good deal for a player when the club knows how much money Roman can throw around, and the player (read: his agent) knows that we really could afford to make them the best paid player in the world if we wanted to.

I think the one improvement between this summer and last is that we are keeping our transfer dealings under our hat. In hindsight, holding press conferences every couple of weeks letting the press know how the Robinho transfer was progressing probably wasn't the best idea.

As someone said earlier, it wouldn't be the greatest idea of Roman's to sack the main man who looks after our transfer dealings in the middle of the transfer window. This would be a classic case of reactionary management, and not the way the club should be run.

If, in the cold light of day at the end of the transfer window, Roman decides that Kenyon is not the best man going forward, then sack him by all means. But doing it mid-way through multi-million pound negotiations for the likes of Ribery and Aguerro is really not a smart move.

[loz]

I don't personally like the guy, but, he does have a pretty difficult job.

It must be pretty hard to drive a good deal for a player when the club knows how much money Roman can throw around, and the player (read: his agent) knows that we really could afford to make them the best paid player in the world if we wanted to.

I think the one improvement between this summer and last is that we are keeping our transfer dealings under our hat. In hindsight, holding press conferences every couple of weeks letting the press know how the Robinho transfer was progressing probably wasn't the best idea.

That is another area where people jump to criticise Kenyon. I have lost count of the number of times people have claimed that the worse thing we did was get rid of Hutch with the insinuation being that Hutch could do deals quietly without them being splashed across the media. Even David Copperfield couldn't keep our transfer deals under wraps in the ROman era. Comparing the environment Hutch dealt in with the one Kenyon deals in is like comparing Mama Pauly's Meatball Sauce with a Dustbuster. Even when we have stopped talking about transfers openly we are still all over the papers and internet with wild speculation about who we are chasing and how much we are willing to spend on them.

[Valerie]

That is another area where people jump to criticise Kenyon. I have lost count of the number of times people have claimed that the worse thing we did was get rid of Hutch with the insinuation being that Hutch could do deals quietly without them being splashed across the media. Even David Copperfield couldn't keep our transfer deals under wraps in the ROman era. Comparing the environment Hutch dealt in with the one Kenyon deals in is like comparing Mama Pauly's Meatball Sauce with a Dustbuster. Even when we have stopped talking about transfers openly we are still all over the papers and internet with wild speculation about who we are chasing and how much we are willing to spend on them.

Yes, it's terrible, isn't it. I blame Kenyon for that :D