June 4, 201313 yr If you're on Twitter, check this fella out. He's posting some cracking pictures up https://twitter.com/NTilt
June 5, 201313 yr Author If you're on Twitter, check this fella out. He's posting some cracking pictures up https://twitter.com/NTilt I DM'd him on there with the details of this thread mate, he is putting some great pics up.
June 5, 201313 yr Ray Wilkins 'Shoot !' Column and the classic Chelsea Panini stickers How times have changed. Not many 6 footers around back then - players didn't get in the side because of their "physical presence". And so many of them born in London!
June 6, 201313 yr Fantastic pics n nostalgia...BUT guys, n that includes you Rumpole.....I need more of those old boy pics ..More DH BABS n co...Also need pics of Hickmot from the Phillipines someone....NEEEDD chelsea nostalgia to keep my old heart pumping
June 7, 201313 yr Butch's Shoot article really has me confused. Firstly, he is a very good writer. However, my issue with the article is that I had always thought that you Brits always call it "football" and us Americans always call it "soccer", but Butch is referring to "soccer" in his article. What's up with that?
June 7, 201313 yr It's always been a part of British football parlance, I think, the whole 'it's not Soccer' thing is a recent development. In my book, soccer is just an informal name for Football, and not some devilish noun that marks the user as being out of touch. The American accent does that... (I kid, I kid )
June 7, 201313 yr Philip, soccer is an abbreviation of 'association football' or 'assoc.' As with so many things in English life class may play a part as to who says what and why it's not a popular term. To be simplistic about it 'soccer' is what the posh people call it to distinguish it from rugby football (that's rugby to you or me 'rugger' to them)which is the game they play. This is one of the reasons (IMO) that 'soccer' grates on some of us. The only people in England I ever heard calling football 'soccer' were the type of people who didn't play it or even follow the game and generally looked down their noses at those of us who did (football is the working class game in England and has often had negative connotations attached to it). Add to that the fact that the only foreign countries that called it soccer rather than football were the ones where it wasn't the national sport or at least the most popular sport (e.g. US, Canada, Australia, etc.) and it seemed like it was the term that 'outsiders' used for 'our' game. That, for me, is where the resentment of the term comes from. All my opinion of course. Here's a couple of good wiki links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_"-er" Sorry everyone if I derailed the thread a bit there. Edited June 7, 201313 yr by Cobham
June 7, 201313 yr Sorry everyone if I derailed the thread a bit there. Not at all Cobham, valuable insight.
June 7, 201313 yr Philip, soccer is an abbreviation of 'association football' or 'assoc.' As with so many things in English life class may play a part as to who says what and why it's not a popular term. To be simplistic about it 'soccer' is what the posh people call it to distinguish it from rugby football (that's rugby to you or me 'rugger' to them)which is the game they play. This is one of the reasons (IMO) that 'soccer' grates on some of us. The only people in England I ever heard calling football 'soccer' were the type of people who didn't play it or even follow the game and generally looked down their noses at those of us who did (football is the working class game in England and has often had negative connotations attached to it). Add to that the fact that the only foreign countries that called it soccer rather than football were the ones where it wasn't the national sport or at least the most popular sport (e.g. US, Canada, Australia, etc.) and it seemed like it was the term that 'outsiders' used for 'our' game. That, for me, is where the resentment of the term comes from. All my opinion of course. Here's a couple of good wiki links. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_"-er" Sorry everyone if I derailed the thread a bit there. This is true, except in South Wales where I come from, where 'soccer' was always used as much as football by 'non-posh people'. There was also a regional ITV football programme in the Midlands - their version of 'The Big Match' - featuring Gary Newbon, Hugh Johns and Jimmy Greaves, called 'Star Soccer'. There is also the long-standing and fairly prestigious magazine 'World Soccer'. The term never seemed to grate on people back then, as is shown by Wilkins using it back in the 70s. I bet he'd never call it soccer now. It seemed to become an issue - as you say - when the Americans adopted it to distinguish it from American Football
June 8, 201313 yr ATTN MIKE CAREFREE zzzhickey.jpg zzzhickPI.jpg will find some more I f**king worship that guy......One stephen hickmot....theres only one stephen hickmot........now im going to feint again...Swooon Thank you..Im sure i remember the guy on the right aswell Edited June 8, 201313 yr by Mike Carefree
June 9, 201313 yr i'm loving this forum,as a kid growing up in the fens chelsea were my club since 1969,altho i never saw my first game til 1976,forest at home,remember it like it was yesterday,was never a fighter but have always been fascinated by it,got mixed up in it a few times,late 70's early 80's i was quite regular,when we were really sh*t,6,000 at home and losing to the likes of shrewsbury,but we always had good away followings,loved the away days,places like oldham,rotherham,notts county,cambridge,luton,watford,great support and we normally lost but i kinda liked it better then,it felt real,i dont get that feeling so much these days,used to stand on the shed and think nothing else matters,no one can hurt me here,as a kid home games were a big adventure into the city,i'm 52 now and still get a buzz,more so away from home,but love reading all the threads and seeing the old pics,keep em coming fellas,KTBFFH
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