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Remy to honest?

Wael
in Coco's Chelsea FC Match Chat

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Poor officiating definitely.

I agree with playing on because if Remy can score from open play then it's good advantage played by the ref.

But he was clearly impeded by Butland and the challenge heavily restricted his movement and caused him to lose control of the ball, should have bought it back for the penalty.

He didn't want to miss the opportunity to score a goal since he is barely playing. Had it been a penalty someone else would have scored it. 

 

I think we should at least consider this possibility. The amount of playing time he is getting is criminal.



You somehow made it Jose's fault. Impressive.

So there is zero logic behind my argument? Couldn't have Remy been to eager to score that?

I'd hope all strikers are eager to score. And since he plays for Chelsea its better to try and score because you bet your life you won't get the penalty if he just goes down.

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So there is zero logic behind my argument? Couldn't have Remy been to eager to score that?

 

It's a far-fetched possibility. I'd be deeply worried if our strikers aren't eager to score.

 

But hey, even if he fell down the moment the contact was made, we won't get that penalty.

 

 

He didn't want to miss the opportunity to score a goal since he is barely playing. Had it been a penalty someone else would have scored it. 

 

I think we should at least consider this possibility. The amount of playing time he is getting is criminal.

 

No offense, but that's like saying Jose has committed some unforgivable sin for not selecting him.

Edited by Zinc

It's a far-fetched possibility. I'd be deeply worried if our strikers aren't eager to score.

 

But hey, even if he fell down the moment the contact was made, we won't get that penalty.

 

 
 

 

No offense, but that's like saying Jose has committed some unforgivable sin for not selecting him.

Well he's had 98 minutes of playing time in the PL thus far which is nothing considering our main striker does feck all.

You somehow made it Jose's fault. Impressive.

 

Regarding remy? it's justified tho.. It's a harsh treatment.. costa did nothing this season to suggest he's an automatic choice for that striker spot.. Didn't remy scored against stoke a few weeks ago, considering he's made to miss so many games since that and costa & falcao did very little in offence during his absence, maybe he should get the nod.. giving him a run of games could be beneficial for us but he will never get it.. doesn't matter what he did or how bad the others did.. the rule is already decided.... Jose's insistence of playing some certain out of form individuals contributed largely to our position this season.. 

It's justified if you are arguing a whole different point than the one this thread is about.



Yes he was. 

 

1-0, if he goes down and the ref actually is willing to call it, it is a pen and a red card.

 

Assuming we score, we are at 1-1 and a few minutes 11 vs 10 to try and win it.

 

A good strikers instinct wanting to score, but in this case it was the wrong choice and a little bit selfish. Understandably so as he gets few games and wants to make an impact.

This is the main reason why players dive

 

Weak Referees do not give a penalty unless a player goes down in dramatic fashion-Honest players are not rewarded for trying to play the game in the right spirit. You can bet someone will have a word with Remy over him not going down but personally I am happy he didnt go down because the chances are a CFC player could be RKO'd in the box and they wouldnt get a penalty. 

Well the ref watch on sky places all the blame on Remy

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10062112/ref-watch-dermot-gallagher-suggests-chelsea-could-have-had-a-penalty-against-stoke

Basically saying cause Remy did not carry on and let the keeper smash him it was the right call and, ultimately he did butland and Stoke a service and himself and chelsea a disservice.

No blame for the ref...

Well the ref watch on sky places all the blame on Remy

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10062112/ref-watch-dermot-gallagher-suggests-chelsea-could-have-had-a-penalty-against-stoke

Basically saying cause Remy did not carry on and let the keeper smash him it was the right call and, ultimately he did butland and Stoke a service and himself and chelsea a disservice.

No blame for the ref...

 

Not sure I agree with that assessment personally. 

 

Isn't there a rule about using reasonable force when making a challenge? 

 

Had Remy not acted quickly Butland's challenge would have caught him with serious force... Just because Remy avoids the challenge doesn't mean you can't punish it. 



He was clearly impeded by Butland, as much as he tried to get out of the way for the goal. There was no advantage what so ever, that's why he didn't get a clear clear shot at goal, penalty should have been given. I doubt they would have given a penalty if Remy had gone down, it's too much to ask.

I can't believe anybody is criticising Remi for this. First of all, he would have been pretty sure he was going to score the goal; there's no way he would have anticipated the stumble. Secondly, if he did go down there's no guarantee the referee would have given the penalty. Thirdly, if the referee did give the penalty, there's no guarantee the penalty taker would have scored it. So on the balance of probabilities I would say he did the right thing and it's a shame that it didn't work out for him/us.

 

But probably the most important thing to remember is that he didn't have time to weight up his options and had to react instantly. His instinct was to try and score, which is what you'd expect from a striker.

 

The only person at fault is the referee for not realising it was a foul by Butland. Referees should not need "help" from the players to be able to spot foul play.

 

Personally I'd be very happy to never see a Chelsea player take a dive again, even if it puts us at a slight disadvantage. Diving and play-acting are the part of the game I dislike the most.

I understand many were disappointed in a way, but to blame him for not being Costa the Diver is wrong. The post above says it all.



Well the ref watch on sky places all the blame on Remy

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10062112/ref-watch-dermot-gallagher-suggests-chelsea-could-have-had-a-penalty-against-stoke

Basically saying cause Remy did not carry on and let the keeper smash him it was the right call and, ultimately he did butland and Stoke a service and himself and chelsea a disservice.

No blame for the ref...

Two refs. have come out & said penalty, game ref & Gallagher said no pen, no wonder there is so much controversial around refs, as they cannot agree between themselves what is & what is not, what with FIFA & now IAAF it makes you think are all sport ruling bodies tainted with suspicion.

 
 
 

He's a mug. He should of let the keeper

make contact and get the pen. 1-1 then.

In a situation where a point is better than 16th place

Not about honest or dishonesty. It's how the game

is played now globally , especially after so many 100% pen

claims have been waved away in BPL & other comps.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2006/aug/20/match.liverpool

Anyone remember this?? Couldn't find a video for it, not only was there no contact on gerrard, he even got the pen after his shot was saved.

In remy's case, the referee has to decide whether remy has a better chance of scoring from the spot, than he does after losing his balance from the challenge.

It was a very very poor decision.



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