11 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Are Torres and Morata black ? You being Nigerian or brown have nothing to do with it just look at the current Tory party, and just for reference I too am black mate.

Dude, stop with neo liberal craps, once again

12 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Are Torres and Morata black ? You being Nigerian or brown have nothing to do with it just look at the current Tory party, and just for reference I too am black mate.

You're completely missing the point. 

Poor strikers get called donkey all the time, it has nothing to do with race. So you don't need to jump to that conclusion. 

12 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Are Torres and Morata black ? You being Nigerian or brown have nothing to do with it just look at the current Tory party, and just for reference I too am black mate.

What exactly are you trying to say? What has colour of skin got to do with anything here?

9 minutes ago, Modueke said:

What exactly are you trying to say? What has colour of skin got to do with anything here?

The point is that he is brain washed with neo liberal trash and he like others always have to put something political in every word.

 

1 minute ago, Modueke said:

What exactly are you trying to say? What has colour of skin got to do with anything here?

Referring to black people as animals has negative connotations I don’t know how this is not understood. Call him crap call him useless call him whatever you want under the sun but posting a picture of a donkey when referring to a black player has negative connotations and your own freaking player too. Might as well posted a picture of a monkey in a Chelsea kit.

Photoshop Tim’s on his feet which is far more hilarious and funny .

This applies to Lukaku also when he was being called donkey.

1 minute ago, JJ8 said:

The point is that he is brain washed with neo liberal trash and he like others always have to put something political in every word.

 

🤣🤣 I can tell your views clearly, tell us how you really feel mate 🤣🤣 tells us what neo liberal means?

Edited December 28, 20232 yr by El regreso

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

Referring to black people as animals has negative connotations I don’t know how this is not understood. Call him crap call him useless call him whatever you want under the sun but posting a picture of a donkey when referring to a black player has negative connotations and your own freaking player too. Might as well posted a picture of a monkey in a Chelsea kit.

Photoshop Tim’s on his feet which is far more hilarious and funny .

This applies to Lukaku also when he was being called donkey.

Thats what i'm talking about. YOU ARE brain washed with neo liberal trash and he like others always have to put something political in every word

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

🤣🤣 I can tell your views clearly, tell us how you really feel mate 🤣🤣 tells us what neo liberal means?

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0896920510371389

https://run.unl.pt/bitstream/10362/142849/1/a2020110806 Zachariah Tailor Dissertação.pdf

https://www.ppesydney.net/content/uploads/2020/05/Unravelling-the-Neoliberal-paradox-with-Marx.pdf

Just now, JJ8 said:

Thats what i'm talking about. YOU ARE brain washed with neo liberal trash and he like others always have to put something political in every word

What’s political about negative connotations with black players and being referred to as animals?

2 minutes ago, JJ8 said:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0896920510371389

https://run.unl.pt/bitstream/10362/142849/1/a2020110806 Zachariah Tailor Dissertação.pdf

https://www.ppesydney.net/content/uploads/2020/05/Unravelling-the-Neoliberal-paradox-with-Marx.pdf

🤣🤣🤣

2 minutes ago, JJ8 said:

The point is that he is brain washed with neo liberal trash and he like others always have to put something political in every word.

 

Let's not derail this thread into a political discussion mate, it'll just get worse than it already is. 

Bottom line, the racism comment was ridiculous and that's that. 

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

Referring to black people as animals has negative connotations I don’t know how this is not understood. Call him crap call him useless call him whatever you want under the sun but posting a picture of a donkey when referring to a black player has negative connotations and your own freaking player too. Might as well posted a picture of a monkey in a Chelsea kit.

Photoshop Tim’s on his feet which is far more hilarious and funny .

This applies to Lukaku also when he was being called donkey.

No, looking for racial undertones in an insult that's used universally is what's causing problems. Nobody is exempt from being mocked, there's no need to put black people such as ourselves in a protected class because you think there are racial implications in general insults. If anything the only one that's making it racist is you by drawing such comparisons, I doubt anyone looked at that post and said "yeah Black people are just like Donkeys aren't they", but now you've felt it necessary to point it out and here we are talking about absolutely nothing.

This is my last post on this because I don't want to derail the thread any further, my advice is this, get a f**king grip. 

3 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Referring to black people as animals has negative connotations I don’t know how this is not understood. Call him crap call him useless call him whatever you want under the sun but posting a picture of a donkey when referring to a black player has negative connotations and your own freaking player too. Might as well posted a picture of a monkey in a Chelsea kit.

Photoshop Tim’s on his feet which is far more hilarious and funny .

This applies to Lukaku also when he was being called donkey.

Zeta calling Jackson a Donkey has zero to do with the colour of his skin. You do realise what a donkey is in a footballing sense? Tony Adams was the first that I knew of!

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

🤣🤣🤣

I know, you can't read. Its more easy to be puppet :) 

1 minute ago, Victor90 said:

Let's not derail this thread into a political discussion mate, it'll just get worse than it already is. 

Bottom line, the racism comment was ridiculous and that's that. 

No, looking for racial undertones in an insult that's used universally is what's causing problems. Nobody is exempt from being mocked, there's no need to put black people such as ourselves in a protected class because you think there are racial implications in general insults. If anything the only one that's making it racist is you by drawing such comparisons, I doubt anyone looked at that post and said "yeah Black people are just like Donkeys aren't they", but now you've felt it necessary to point it out and here we are talking about absolutely nothing.

This is my last post on this because I don't want to derail the thread any further, my advice is this, get a f**king grip. 

He already started with political sh****** 

I'm black and i'm offended 

Give me a break

8 minutes ago, El regreso said:

Referring to black people as animals has negative connotations I don’t know how this is not understood. Call him crap call him useless call him whatever you want under the sun but posting a picture of a donkey when referring to a black player has negative connotations and your own freaking player too. Might as well posted a picture of a monkey in a Chelsea kit.

Photoshop Tim’s on his feet which is far more hilarious and funny .

This applies to Lukaku also when he was being called donkey.

Donkeys don't belong to any specific group of people, they are universal like the cross on their back.

4 minutes ago, Victor90 said:

Let's not derail this thread into a political discussion mate, it'll just get worse than it already is. 

Bottom line, the racism comment was ridiculous and that's that. 

No, looking for racial undertones in an insult that's used universally is what's causing problems. Nobody is exempt from being mocked, there's no need to put black people such as ourselves in a protected class because you think there are racial implications in general insults. If anything the only one that's making it racist is you by drawing such comparisons, I doubt anyone looked at that post and said "yeah Black people are just like Donkeys aren't they", but now you've felt it necessary to point it out and here we are talking about absolutely nothing.

This is my last post on this because I don't want to derail the thread any further, my advice is this, get a f**king grip. 

I don’t need to get a f**king grip mate, I have and will always call out sh*te when I see it.

I mentioned negative connotations never mentioned racism once and see all my post never said racism once’s negative connotations is always what I said.

All you have to do is hold up a mirror and see what happens.

4 minutes ago, Gol15 said:

Donkeys don't belong to any specific group of people, they are universal like the cross on their back.

Am sure they do !!

1 minute ago, El regreso said:

Am sure they do !!

First time I hear about it, who do the donkeys belong to then according to you?

So what word to remove from dictionaries next???

Everything is schizophrenia now.

Just now, Gol15 said:

First time I hear about it, who do the donkeys belong to then according to you?

Don’t know fella.

7 minutes ago, El regreso said:

 

I mentioned negative connotations never mentioned racism once

You absolutely did insinuate it was racism, which it 100% isnt,  you owe Zeta an apology, his post had absolutely nothing to do with race, colour, crede.

9 hours ago, El regreso said:

No just no!!!
this already has negative connotations with black players who are normally call hard workers instead of intelligent.

 

3 minutes ago, dkw said:

You absolutely did insinuate it was racism, which it 100% isnt,  you owe Zeta an apology, his post had absolutely nothing to do with race, colour, crede.

 

You saw racism I saw negative connotations which is exactly what I said. I had seen racism I would have said racism I don’t hold my words. It seems everyone is the ones jumping to racism where I said negative connotations 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

I clearly stated why it had negative connotations too “hard working” vs intelligence which is widely known.

Why is it everyone else mentioning racism yet I didn’t mention racism.
I owe no one an apology.

 

Edited December 28, 20232 yr by El regreso

3 minutes ago, El regreso said:

You saw racism I saw negative connotations which is exactly what I said. I had seen racism I would have said racism I don’t hold my words. It seems everyone is the ones jumping to racism where I said negative connotations 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Why is it everyone else mentioning racism yet I didn’t mention racism. I owe no one an apology.

Why did you even feel the need to bring his colour into it, the only reason is if you felt it was racist, there's literally no other reason. It was bullsh*t and unnecessary. 

1 hour ago, Victor90 said:

Zeta is just having a laugh, I doubt Jackson reads this forum and god help him if he does. 

No chance he does, his free time is not spent on this online site, as we know ;)

42 minutes ago, Modueke said:

Zeta calling Jackson a Donkey has zero to do with the colour of his skin. You do realise what a donkey is in a footballing sense? Tony Adams was the first that I knew of!

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-beating-the-world-with-a-clenched-fist-jeered-by-opposing-fans-cheered-by-fellow-professionals-tony-adams-is-considered-by-some-to-be-the-very-face-of-english-football-richard-williams-reports-1457279.html

I remember there used to be a picture of Adams in his Arsenal kit with donkey ears on super-imposed on his head. Hands up all the old boys who used to give him the ey-yore chant. Yep, me too.

Edited December 28, 20232 yr by just