On 12/03/2026 at 09:18, 2211 said:

I honestly don’t get it.

Some people are making out if we cut out the playing out of the back risks we’ve got a wonderful keeper.

His is an average shot stopper IMO,a very bad decision maker (think of corners we concede where despite being 6ft 6 inches and able to use his hands he looks like a lost little lamb) and he also has conceded soft goals similar to PSG’s 5th goal.

A top goalkeeper can turn possible defeats into lucky wins, I’ve never had that feeling about Sanchez because he isn’t a top goalkeeper.

He isn’t in the same ballpark as the Arsenal, Man City or Liverpool number ones.

I could go on and add Crystal Palace, Brentford etc…

Sanchez will come back in and within 2 matches he’ll do something that will make this thread blow up.

Right on cue...

Edited March 22Mar 22 by 2211

He is a bang average keeper. Any keeper who is defended by people saying 'but he is a good shot stopper' is, almost without exception, a limited player.

Shot stopping is probably the 'easiest' part of goalkeeping. Being a good shot stopper is the least you expect of someone in the top flight. Sanchez fails miserably in all those additional aspects which differentiate the good shot stopper from the good goalkeeper.

Very average at corners, doesn't command his defence with any authority, poor at dealing with crosses and f**king awful distribution.

If we listed him tomorrow there isn't a team in the whole league who would consider him a good option for their first team.

1 minute ago, loz said:

He is a bang average keeper. Any keeper who is defended by people saying 'but he is a good shot stopper' is, almost without exception, a limited player.

Shot stopping is probably the 'easiest' part of goalkeeping. Being a good shot stopper is the least you expect of someone in the top flight. Sanchez fails miserably in all those additional aspects which differentiate the good shot stopper from the good goalkeeper.

Very average at corners, doesn't command his defence with any authority, poor at dealing with crosses and f**king awful distribution.

If we listed him tomorrow there isn't a team in the whole league who would consider him a good option for their first team.

Spot on!

For the life of me I can't understand people defending him by saying "he's a good shot stopper" or even more baffling, saying he's world class if he isn't forced to play sweeper keeper.

Every goalkeeper at every level at every age group in the world makes good saves sometimes - this isn't something we should be praising him for because he is nothing special.

He wasn't even Brighton's number 1 keeper when we bought him!

Edited March 22Mar 22 by 2211

It’s almost comical the clusterf**k around our keepers this last month or so.

The manager made a big call bringing in Jorgensen which was a catastrophic failure. I honestly believe if he didn’t get injured Rosenior would have kept him in for Newcastle and PSG.

Sanchez has come back in and looked worse than last season. I’ve said it before, there are single digit keepers in the world who would be comfortable in Rosenior/Maresca’s system. The keeper is THE most important player in these systems because if they can’t do it then it leads to goals, defences that panic and ultimately defeats. So why the f**k are we persevering with the system?

It’s utter madness and all the worse for the fact we had 9 keepers on our books not so long ago for big fees.

I hope Sharman Lowe gets the nod in the cup game. He will have goodwill from the fans whereas the first mistake Tweedledum or Tweedledee make then the whole place goes toxic.

f**k Paul Winstanley

f**k Laurence Stewart

Both are rat faced sons of c**t bastards.

And relax 😀

Edited March 23Mar 23 by 19seventyone

2 hours ago, 2211 said:

Spot on!

For the life of me I can't understand people defending him by saying "he's a good shot stopper" or even more baffling, saying he's world class if he isn't forced to play sweeper keeper.

Every goalkeeper at every level at every age group in the world makes good saves sometimes - this isn't something we should be praising him for because he is nothing special.

He wasn't even Brighton's number 1 keeper when we bought him!

To be fair he wasn’t even their second choice when we signed him.

Watched the second half of Strasbourg -v- Nantes last night. Don't get your hopes up over M. Penders.

It was an eerie watch. Like Chelsea. Passing it around sideways and backwards, split open by long through balls. And Nantes are fighting relegation.

8 hours ago, 19seventyone said:

It’s almost comical the clusterf**k around our keepers this last month or so.

The manager made a big call bringing in Jorgensen which was a catastrophic failure. I honestly believe if he didn’t get injured Rosenior would have kept him in for Newcastle and PSG.

Sanchez has come back in and looked worse than last season. I’ve said it before, there are single digit keepers in the world who would be comfortable in Rosenior/Maresca’s system. The keeper is THE most important player in these systems because if they can’t do it then it leads to goals, defences that panic and ultimately defeats. So why the f**k are we persevering with the system?

It’s utter madness and all the worse for the fact we had 9 keepers on our books not so long ago for big fees.

I hope Sharman Lowe gets the nod in the cup game. He will have goodwill from the fans whereas the first mistake Tweedledum or Tweedledee make then the whole place goes toxic.

f**k Paul Winstanley

f**k Laurence Stewart

Both are rat faced sons of c**t bastards.

And relax 😀

Yeah, right. "Injured"

10 hours ago, loz said:

He is a bang average keeper. Any keeper who is defended by people saying 'but he is a good shot stopper' is, almost without exception, a limited player.

Shot stopping is probably the 'easiest' part of goalkeeping. Being a good shot stopper is the least you expect of someone in the top flight. Sanchez fails miserably in all those additional aspects which differentiate the good shot stopper from the good goalkeeper.

Very average at corners, doesn't command his defence with any authority, poor at dealing with crosses and f**king awful distribution.

If we listed him tomorrow there isn't a team in the whole league who would consider him a good option for their first team.

He's not the answer but, courtesy of the SDs, for our sins, he's the best we have. What's criminal is that Rosenoir has managed to make him worse. The world - heck, even Trump's military analysts - know his weakness with the ball at his feet, playing out. But Rosenoir persists and, in the process, destroys his confidence.

5 minutes ago, dermott said:

He's not the answer but, courtesy of the SDs, for our sins, he's the best we have. What's criminal is that Rosenoir has managed to make him worse. The world - heck, even Trump's military analysts - know his weakness with the ball at his feet, playing out. But Rosenoir persists and, in the process, destroys his confidence.

He does look dreadful again under LR, but I hate any suggestion that he's a good keeper if you "play to his strengths".

If a keeper has as many glaring weaknesses in his game as Sanchez clearly has, he has no right to be playing at this level. He's a clown, End of.

Don't want to see Sanchez or Jorgensen for the remainder of the season - honestly don't care who we put in goal as long as it's neither of them.

7 minutes ago, Nibs said:

He does look dreadful again under LR, but I hate any suggestion that he's a good keeper if you "play to his strengths".

If a keeper has as many glaring weaknesses in his game as Sanchez clearly has, he has no right to be playing at this level. He's a clown, End of.

Don't want to see Sanchez or Jorgensen for the remainder of the season - honestly don't care who we put in goal as long as it's neither of them.

Sharman-Lowe or Slonina will almost certainly make you reconsider !

I just can’t stand the tactics, in the modern game I expect all defenders and good keepers to be able to play under pressure, what I can’t understand is the insistence to put urself under unnecessary pressure.

Even when you play through the press then what?? You’re still in your own half.

How many goals come from it? The risk reward makes no sense to me.

Sanchez though is not the quality we need to compete at the top even without the kamikaze tactics.

1 hour ago, C3blue said:

I just can’t stand the tactics, in the modern game I expect all defenders and good keepers to be able to play under pressure, what I can’t understand is the insistence to put urself under unnecessary pressure.

Even when you play through the press then what?? You’re still in your own half.

How many goals come from it? The risk reward makes no sense to me.

Sanchez though is not the quality we need to compete at the top even without the kamikaze tactics.

This insistance with trying to play out from the back when we haven't got the players capable of doing it, is just absurd. Watching that first half v Everton Saturday evening and I'm past the point of even getting angry. Our defenders are that inept, they just look for the easy way out and pass it back to Sanchez when you know he is going to f**k-up. It's so predictable. Surely, once you've seen Sanchez f**k-up once, you don't pass it back to him - even if that means hoofing it up the pitch, but oh no, we carry on until we get punished and then all the players look at one another as if they had no idea that was going to happen. What happened to footballers with brains FFS?

Edited March 23Mar 23 by Nibs

14 minutes ago, Nibs said:

This insistance with trying to play out from the back when we haven't got the players capable of doing it, is just absurd. Watching that first half v Everton Saturday evening and I'm past the point of even getting angry. Our defenders are that inept, they just look for the easy way out and pass it back to Sanchez when you know he is going to f**k-up. It's so predictable. Surely, once you've seen Sanchez f**k-up once, you don't pass it back to him - even if that means hoofing it up the pitch, but oh no, we carry on until we get punished and then all the players look at one another as if they had no idea that was going to happen. What happened to footballers with brains FFS?

It's a nice day Nibs .. go for a walk or something this afternoon. I'm sensing you need something calming today ! Just about to heed my own advice LOL

9 hours ago, Nibs said:

What happened to footballers with brains FFS?

They rarely make it past youth football and using your 'brain' is unlikely to get you far in a professional environment that is obsessed with "systems" managers.

The change started about 20 years when managers like Mourinho and Benitez were vying at the top. It started to bleed into youth coaching and exploded when Guardiola took it to the next level. Young kids are shunned for not following the coach's instructions to the letter and they just never progress. You end up with a lot of mediocre "coach's dream" players instead.

Big part of why there's so few characters in football these days.

To be fair, Sanchez could make good saves if not asked to play football with his feet. As soon as he started to muck around playing football with feet, mistakes kick in, confidence down, and couldn't even making saves he'd normally make.

This has a lot to do with the way manager wants to play, and knowing ( or not) players' limitations.

4 hours ago, icecoolguy22 said:

To be fair, Sanchez could make good saves if not asked to play football with his feet. As soon as he started to muck around playing football with feet, mistakes kick in, confidence down, and couldn't even making saves he'd normally make.

This has a lot to do with the way manager wants to play, and knowing ( or not) players' limitations.

Spot on.

I stand by my comment that someone who's one task in life is to train to be a footballer and has been doing it for probably 15 years with no other responsibility in life should know not to take a touch out of his feet when the opponent is 5 yards away.

Not good enough. We're praising the bare minimum.

Some have changed the tune from Maresca to LR. When it was Maresca trying to play from the back, he was a stubborn cnut, but now that it is LR that is trying to play from the back using Jorgensen or Sanchez, then it is the keepers' fault and they are just the bare minimum. We all know that Sanchez is not good enough for a team like Chelsea, and that whenever he's got to play sweeper, his brain melts down and he's a disaster. Maresca understood this, maybe too late, but adjusted his style to account for this and suddenly we not longer thought that the keeper was the most immediate thing to change. Here comes LR and goes back to square one; Sanchez becomes a liability and instead of changing the system, he makes Jorgensen, an even worse keeper, his number one. Disaster class in Paris, and we're back to seeing Sanchez on goal, BUT still LR uses him as keeper sweeper and disaster strikes again. We need to replace Sanchez, that's been true since the beginning and still is, but LR is a liability and he's also a stubborn cnut as Maresca was before. LR is at fault for the keepers crisis we've got on our hands right now. He needs to change his system, stop playing Sanchez as a sweeper and stop inverting him into CB.

At no point in his Chelsea career has Sanchez inverted into CB btw. Just making things up to get upset about now.

1 hour ago, RMH said:

Some have changed the tune from Maresca to LR. When it was Maresca trying to play from the back, he was a stubborn cnut, but now that it is LR that is trying to play from the back using Jorgensen or Sanchez, then it is the keepers' fault and they are just the bare minimum. We all know that Sanchez is not good enough for a team like Chelsea, and that whenever he's got to play sweeper, his brain melts down and he's a disaster. Maresca understood this, maybe too late, but adjusted his style to account for this and suddenly we not longer thought that the keeper was the most immediate thing to change. Here comes LR and goes back to square one; Sanchez becomes a liability and instead of changing the system, he makes Jorgensen, an even worse keeper, his number one. Disaster class in Paris, and we're back to seeing Sanchez on goal, BUT still LR uses him as keeper sweeper and disaster strikes again. We need to replace Sanchez, that's been true since the beginning and still is, but LR is a liability and he's also a stubborn cnut as Maresca was before. LR is at fault for the keepers crisis we've got on our hands right now. He needs to change his system, stop playing Sanchez as a sweeper and stop inverting him into CB.

This continual fetish with having keepers retain possession, bait the press, or "play out" from the back is a compete fallacy and is continually being shown up as suicidal. Not just for us, but universally. Interestingly the keeper that Maresca was desparate to bring in to implement his strategy was Hermandsen from Leicester because he was so comfortable on the ball. Yeah, that guy, who is now flirting with relegation at West Ham, whilst their old club is looking to do the same from the Championship.

5 hours ago, GarnachoCheese said:

At no point in his Chelsea career has Sanchez inverted into CB btw. Just making things up to get upset about now.

Remodez got that wrong. Sweeper-keeper isn't the issue. It's LR wanting Sanchez to faff around with the ball at his feet, inside and outside the 6 yard box, that's the issue. It's a weakness that everyone - even including Maresca - realised a long time ago. But still LR persists.

Lets not forget that LR wants the keepers to advance towards the centre circle, in time, as he has done with Penders previously. I cant wait.

16 hours ago, OTL said:

Lets not forget that LR wants the keepers to advance towards the centre circle, in time, as he has done with Penders previously. I cant wait.

At least he'll give the ball away in the opposition half, far from goal! Maybe that's LR's cunning plan...

16 hours ago, OTL said:

Lets not forget that LR wants the keepers to advance towards the centre circle, in time, as he has done with Penders previously. I cant wait.

Maybe different instructions but Penders played more traditionally -v- Nantes the other night. Didn't stop him letting in a goal he should have saved.

21 hours ago, dermott said:

Remodez got that wrong. Sweeper-keeper isn't the issue. It's LR wanting Sanchez to faff around with the ball at his feet, inside and outside the 6 yard box, that's the issue. It's a weakness that everyone - even including Maresca - realised a long time ago. But still LR persists.

I agree he shouldn’t faff around but at the same time obviously don’t take a touch out your feet when an attacker in 2 yards away from you. At some point we have to question why a professional footballer can’t play football. I could honestly do better and I never made it pro.