Todd & Co. have a plan in place. Buying young talent on long-term contracts is part of that plan. Buying a feeder club in France. They have lots of ideas and plans to reinvent the finances of Soccer Ball in Europe. 

 

It might not be the best plan, time will tell. We would have to revisit their ideas in 5 years to properly assess.

 

If we look at the last decade of financial spending – negative net spend – the top 5 are:

 

Manchester United have the record £1.19bn
Chelsea are second with a negative net spend of £883m
Paris St-Germain with £863m
Arsenal (£745m)
Manchester City (£732m)

 

Lukaku might have been a big problem eh?

In context our spending is quite ‘normal’.

I get that people have trauma from the last couple of seasons, so a loss is going to throw everyone into a frenzy, but its only been 4 games. Let's give Pochettino and the players we bought a chance.

Edited September 6, 20232 yr by Frankie8Lampard

4 hours ago, RIP Mourinho said:

There's a couple of these posters on here now that are yet to make a single good post.

I know, the nerve. Some of us make the effort to write Total boll*cks for years and still not get kicked out...

47 minutes ago, Sexyfootball said:

Lukaku was a terrible deal for sure, but surely you can't think that Bayern losing £40m on Hernandez is better than us losing £16m on Koulibaly ? Basic maths says otherwise LOL

Koulibaly was just an in house example, i haven't said that. I'm saying we can probably get a couple of years out of Fofana when he returns from injury and if he doesn't perform someone will still take the gamble on him and get some money back. Koulibaly, had it not been for Saudi, would have been stuck here until the end of his contract because of his age. 

18 hours ago, axman2526 said:

I know, the nerve. Some of us make the effort to write Total boll*cks for years and still not get kicked out...

To be fair you've turned it into an absolute art....Its worth paying an entrance fee for.

4 hours ago, dkw said:

To be fair you've turned it into an absolute art....Its worth paying an entrance fee for.

 

In this crazy world of Soccer Ball our negative net spend is quite ‘normal’.

Maybe our spending is not only ‘normal’ but even quite successful. As Arsenal and PSG have spent similar amounts over the last decade and have failed to win the Holy Grail which is the Champions League. Also, Man Utd have spent more than us and they have failed to win the Champions League in the last decade. 

 

Hurrah! We win. Yet the media seem to have us down as some foolish free spending eejits with more money than sense.  So, we do in fact need much better Propaganda and Spin. To tell the TRUE story.

3 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

 

In this crazy world of Soccer Ball our negative net spend is quite ‘normal’.

Maybe our spending is not only ‘normal’ but even quite successful. As Arsenal and PSG have spent similar amounts over the last decade and have failed to win the Holy Grail which is the Champions League. Also, Man Utd have spent more than us and they have failed to win the Champions League in the last decade. 

 

Hurrah! We win. Yet the media seem to have us down as some foolish free spending eejits with more money than sense.  So, we do in fact need much better Propaganda and Spin. To tell the TRUE story.

Well tbf with that spending we also racked up a £1.5 billion in debt to RA.

We were lucky it was written off as part of the takeover, and started debt free for a couple of days !

On 06/09/2023 at 12:45, dkw said:

Now though, they have implemented the structure and obviously have a plan in place as shown by the player profiles we`ve signed.

So what is the plan exactly, beyond signing expensive young players?

On 06/09/2023 at 14:24, TheCeleryKing said:

 

Todd & Co. have a plan in place. Buying young talent on long-term contracts is part of that plan. Buying a feeder club in France. They have lots of ideas and plans to reinvent the finances of Soccer Ball in Europe. 

 

It might not be the best plan, time will tell. We would have to revisit their ideas in 5 years to properly assess.

 

If we look at the last decade of financial spending – negative net spend – the top 5 are:

 

Manchester United have the record £1.19bn
Chelsea are second with a negative net spend of £883m
Paris St-Germain with £863m
Arsenal (£745m)
Manchester City (£732m)

 

Lukaku might have been a big problem eh?
 

In context our spending is quite ‘normal’.

You're forgetting that our spending meant we were over £1.5 billion in debt at the time of our sale.

I think also you have to relate spending to income, our income may well be the lowest of those other clubs ?

6 minutes ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

So what is the plan exactly, beyond signing expensive young players?

I'm not sure a massive, hopeful gamble can be described as a " plan "

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16 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

 

In this crazy world of Soccer Ball our negative net spend is quite ‘normal’.

Maybe our spending is not only ‘normal’ but even quite successful. As Arsenal and PSG have spent similar amounts over the last decade and have failed to win the Holy Grail which is the Champions League. Also, Man Utd have spent more than us and they have failed to win the Champions League in the last decade. 

 

Hurrah! We win. Yet the media seem to have us down as some foolish free spending eejits with more money than sense.  So, we do in fact need much better Propaganda and Spin. To tell the TRUE story.

"Fecking eejits".  surely ?

1 hour ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

So what is the plan exactly, beyond signing expensive young players?

This might come as a shock to you, but unlike seemingly countless thousands of othe Chelsea fans I have no access to the top brass at the club so can't ask them.

48 minutes ago, dkw said:

This might come as a shock to you, but unlike seemingly countless thousands of othe Chelsea fans I have no access to the top brass at the club so can't ask them.

I'm not shocked at all. In fact it's entirely as expected.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

This might come as a shock to you, but unlike seemingly countless thousands of othe Chelsea fans I have no access to the top brass at the club so can't ask them.

The Plan.  The plan is to. . . .The plan is To reinvent the finances of soccer ball. Naturally. For instance, the club have handed new signings long-term contracts to spread costs but Uefa has swiftly closed that loophole.  But then Uefa probably won't feature much in the future long-term plan anyways. That Euro Super League will be back at some point in the foreseeable future. To save the day. Apparently. Allegedly. The Vision List and the hiring of all the top young players that is a plan we can see. I am sure there are other plans we cannot see. We do not know the plans exactly do we? But we do know the motive. $$$ Money. Filthy lucre. Mergers and Acquisitions. Capitalism.  Too many London clubs? Bankrupt a few of them might be fun. Get some new fans. Less teams, bigger market share, etc. Make the EPL more like the MLB or the NBA or the NFL. Avoid relegation by abolishing it.  Too big to fail.  Set up an all-star game maybe? oh, he did mention that. . . yeah, we do not know the details, but we have an idea of the motivation and the general capitalist gist of it all.  AND if the other top clubs agree with the Americanization [and they are mainly owned by Americans] then we/they hit a home run.  So to speak. Or something like that.

9 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

The Plan.  The plan is to. . . .The plan is To reinvent the finances of soccer ball. Naturally. For instance, the club have handed new signings long-term contracts to spread costs but Uefa has swiftly closed that loophole.  But then Uefa probably won't feature much in the future long-term plan anyways. That Euro Super League will be back at some point in the foreseeable future. To save the day. Apparently. Allegedly. The Vision List and the hiring of all the top young players that is a plan we can see. I am sure there are other plans we cannot see. We do not know the plans exactly do we? But we do know the motive. $$$ Money. Filthy lucre. Mergers and Acquisitions. Capitalism.  Too many London clubs? Bankrupt a few of them might be fun. Get some new fans. Less teams, bigger market share, etc. Make the EPL more like the MLB or the NBA or the NFL. Avoid relegation by abolishing it.  Too big to fail.  Set up an all-star game maybe? oh, he did mention that. . . yeah, we do not know the details, but we have an idea of the motivation and the general capitalist gist of it all.  AND if the other top clubs agree with the Americanization [and they are mainly owned by Americans] then we/they hit a home run.  So to speak. Or something like that.

The obvious concern is that Boehly and Co have ruined the club so drastically we most likely wouldn't be invited to the super league now.

6 hours ago, Gonoir Beniashile said:

So what is the plan exactly, beyond signing expensive young players?

Maybe Boehly is banking on getting some top draft picks based on finishing low down the table. It was a strategy that has worked a treat for the Houston Astros.

The whole making money plan, it's pretty hard to make real profit when you pay 25M+ for young players very few heard of. It will take a couple of years of training+ games if not more for them to be worthy of the money we paid, and inflation of the market by itself won't take it there. To be a 40M+ player, really need to develop and play them regularly in a good team, it just won't happen for a lot of them when we have a beloated squad already. Sure, we could send them on loan, but that's depend on other clubs to play ball, and it's not their interest to develop our players. We made money selling academy players this season, but that window is narrowing down when we keep buying these expensive 'wonder kids' and block their route to the senior teams. I'm not even going to think about how we are going to make money for the 60M+ players we bought.

The Saudi's are now distorting the market so you really only need one or two winners to make it work financially - problem I foresee is getting the good players to stay if you're not a good enough "team" to get in the CL.

2 hours ago, Backbiter said:

Maybe Boehly is banking on getting some top draft picks based on finishing low down the table. It was a strategy that has worked a treat for the Houston Astros.

Yeah the Draft picking system for the ESL* has yet to be worked out.
 

*European Soccer League

It’s always been about the money, at least since the late 80s and especially 90s. Nothing new in what some point out about our new owners, they are not reinventing the wheel. Except for the Saudis, who are here to whitewash their highly discriminating and racist culture and try to sit at the table of the West elite chums.

It would be nice if the owners would explain their motives/ strategy.

Roman as we know was a silent as The Sphinx. Can only remember a couple of public offerings during his entire tenure.

The current owners came in guns blazing media wise- went public about projected investment levels, new stadium blah blah - won the bid- and have been relatively Harpo Marx since.

No explanation of transfer policy- no questions and answers- possible they don’t want to show their hand for strategic reasons, but personally think it smacks a bit of “ f**k the fans. This is our club now” 

33 minutes ago, Fruit Bat said:

It would be nice if the owners would explain their motives/ strategy.

Roman as we know was a silent as The Sphinx. Can only remember a couple of public offerings during his entire tenure.

The current owners came in guns blazing media wise- went public about projected investment levels, new stadium blah blah - won the bid- and have been relatively Harpo Marx since.

No explanation of transfer policy- no questions and answers- possible they don’t want to show their hand for strategic reasons, but personally think it smacks a bit of “ f**k the fans. This is our club now” 

Hmm think it is more likely "f**k the fans, this is now our business."

I think as fans we’ve got to just accept that we’ve gone from being owned by ‘one of us’ someone who loved the club and wanted what was best for it regardless of finances to owned by the big corporate man.

 

Take the positive which is a clear vision of a youth movement, accept the negative which so far seems to be the lack of onfield productivity due to the mass overhaul and overall inexperience of that groups.

I think he ceiling of this tactic is domestic dominance a la City and the floor is upper mid table obscurity a la Sp*rs

Enjoy the rollercoaster