Some weird energy on this forum around certain players.

Neither Garnacho, Neto or Gittens are good enough to play for actual Chels. They’re probably at the right level to be starters for BlueCo CFC LDN though.

It’s the absolute circle jerk people are having over Garnachos (admittedly) horrific performance as though it justifies all their hatred.

He was no worse than Badiashille on Saturday but the Badiashille thread is dead.

Is it cos he’s ex-Utd? Is it cos he’s from the West Falklands? Is it his brother or his face?

Just seems such an unparalleled animosity towards him whilst Neto & Gittens who are equally eye wateringly sh*t and cost more and earn more (‘cos EVERYONE is obsessed with finances nowadays) on the whole get away with it (apart from the Cheesey Ones consistently NNNJ Jackson esque levels of pointing out Netos shortcomings)

We aren’t blessed with the Hazards & Robbens of the world anymore, in fact world football isn’t blessed with players of that ilk anymore. Outside of Estevao there isn’t a winger in the Prem built that way who will take his man on 9 x out of 10.

40 minutes ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Some weird energy on this forum around certain players.

Neither Garnacho, Neto or Gittens are good enough to play for actual Chels. They’re probably at the right level to be starters for BlueCo CFC LDN though.

It’s the absolute circle jerk people are having over Garnachos (admittedly) horrific performance as though it justifies all their hatred.

He was no worse than Badiashille on Saturday but the Badiashille thread is dead.

Is it cos he’s ex-Utd? Is it cos he’s from the West Falklands? Is it his brother or his face?

Just seems such an unparalleled animosity towards him whilst Neto & Gittens who are equally eye wateringly sh*t and cost more and earn more (‘cos EVERYONE is obsessed with finances nowadays) on the whole get away with it (apart from the Cheesey Ones consistently NNNJ Jackson esque levels of pointing out Netos shortcomings)

We aren’t blessed with the Hazards & Robbens of the world anymore, in fact world football isn’t blessed with players of that ilk anymore. Outside of Estevao there isn’t a winger in the Prem built that way who will take his man on 9 x out of 10.

I think it's down to the fact we didn't know huge amounts about Badiashille or Gittens before we signed them, whereas we ALL knew Garnacho was sh*t and we didn't need him, after seeing him at Man Utd in the PL for some time where he had failed to impress.

To think we could have signed Semenyo instead of Garnacho AND Gittens. So many poor decisions.

On 01/02/2026 at 13:51, timetowaste said:

Garnacho should be the player that the owners look at and really start questioning the judgement of our recruitment team. Yesterday it looked like he'd never played a match before, it was truly pathetic.

I dont know how anyone says this when we have Gittens here who cost 50% more and is absolutely worse.

Garnacho is a decent player, he's worth 40m. He's atrocious when he's in front of a bad defence because Garnacho is sh*t at defending.

52 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

I dont know how anyone says this when we have Gittens here who cost 50% more and is absolutely worse.

Garnacho is a decent player, he's worth 40m. He's atrocious when he's in front of a bad defence because Garnacho is sh*t at defending.

And that's the problem - singling out one player like Garnacho, who was obviously hamstrung by Cucu not being in his normal position is bloody stupid to me.

Just now, Bebe1980 said:

And that's the problem - singling out one player like Garnacho, who was obviously hamstrung by Cucu not being in his normal position is bloody stupid to me.

Garnacho crucified Hato by not once tracking Wan-Bissaka back. W-B was their MOTM in the first half in both defence and attack.

Stopped reading at Garnacho is worth 40m.

He isn't worth a turkey sandwich.

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Garnacho is a decent player, he's worth 40m. He's atrocious when he's in front of a bad defence because Garnacho is sh*t at defending.

That "sh*t defence" was entirely down to him just leaving his full back to fight against 2 and sometimes 3 players because hes a lazy little sh*t who doesnt want to defend.

1 minute ago, dkw said:

That "sh*t defence" was entirely down to him just leaving his full back to fight against 2 and sometimes 3 players because hes a lazy little sh*t who doesnt want to defend.

And Hato with Badiashile for company. Sheesh.

37 minutes ago, dkw said:

That "sh*t defence" was entirely down to him just leaving his full back to fight against 2 and sometimes 3 players because hes a lazy little sh*t who doesnt want to defend.

Yeah he's sh*t at defending. That's why he's not worth 60/70m

40m is f**k all money nowadays. He's fine for a squad role, but we need to stop treating squad players like they should all rotate in at the same time when we play an average team.

If you kept Cucu and Chalobah in and played Garnacho, it would be fine. If you replaced Cucu with Hato and had Neto at LW, it would be fine.

4 hours ago, C3blue said:

All of our players are young though, it’s been designed this way so there is clearly a problem with the design.

I didn’t want jacquet, I don’t know anything about the kid to be honest he could be great but he was just the wrong profile of player at 19. With Levi, Josh, Hato, Ansilmeno, Sarr. We have young CB’s with potential what we need and what they need is a leader at the back to play with and learn from……. The whole world except our boardroom can see it.

It’s ridiculous to still be sitting here saying we need an experienced spine while spending 100’s of more millions on bang average wingers and teenagers.

Again.

Also, all of our players are learning together. They have no experienced top quality players around them to learn from, which means it will be very difficult for them to pick up on parts about the game that only experienced players can understand. They have no guidance on the pitch and in training other than the coaches on the side lines.

2 hours ago, bisright1 said:

I dont know how anyone says this when we have Gittens here who cost 50% more and is absolutely worse.

Garnacho is a decent player, he's worth 40m. He's atrocious when he's in front of a bad defence because Garnacho is sh*t at defending.

Because Gittens was already here before we signed Garnacho. Gittens is worse overall, but Garnacho has games like he had against West Ham where he is unacceptably sh*t. The type of performance where you don't want to see them play again for a long time to give yourself time to forget it.

The idiots should never have signed Garnacho, not after signing Gittens. Two ridiculous risks that had a far higher chance of failing than it did succeeding.

2 hours ago, dkw said:

That "sh*t defence" was entirely down to him just leaving his full back to fight against 2 and sometimes 3 players because hes a lazy little sh*t who doesnt want to defend.

well, thats a problem in itself if true. If the manager is reliant on an attacking winger, not known as a steller defender, to protect his defence, then that is on the manager and the system.

Its like Jackson. He was an utterly awful player, and an even worse human being - but it was Maresca that kept selecting him...

1 hour ago, bisright1 said:

Yeah he's sh*t at defending. That's why he's not worth 60/70m

He doesnt have to be a great defender, what he needs to do is actually f**king try and not just allow his full back to be doubled and trebled up on constantly.

4 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

well, thats a problem in itself if true. If the manager is reliant on an attacking winger, not known as a steller defender, to protect his defence, then that is on the manager and the system.

Its like Jackson. He was an utterly awful player, and an even worse human being - but it was Maresca that kept selecting him...

As I said above no none is relying on him to protect the defence, what he needs to do is actually get back and help once in a while, would be useful.

It’s hilarious that the defensive argument is used against Garnacho, yet Neto is lauded as a great defender when he leaves his man just as much for the overlap. Go watch his highlights against Napoli and it’s 45 minutes of leaving his man, but that thread remains silent. Funny.

Anyway, on to Arsenal tonight. Let’s see if Garnacho can get another 2 goals against them.

1 hour ago, Scott Harris said:

Because Gittens was already here before we signed Garnacho. Gittens is worse overall, but Garnacho has games like he had against West Ham where he is unacceptably sh*t. The type of performance where you don't want to see them play again for a long time to give yourself time to forget it.

The idiots should never have signed Garnacho, not after signing Gittens. Two ridiculous risks that had a far higher chance of failing than it did succeeding.

Think you missed the biggest point.

Gittens was always going to be a gamble but with Garnacho we all knew he'd be sh*t. Page 1 and Page 48 of this thread are a year different yet both could be reflected by just a day apart. That's how predictably awful he'd be.

Craig Burley on Alejandro Garnacho: 🗣️" “Garnacho is the kind of player you introduce late on, around 75–80 minutes, when there’s space and defenders are tiring.” Just take a flashback to the game against Arsenal, he came in and scored 2 goals. “But starting games for Chelsea? No. Absolutely not.”

Any casual football fan knows this. Watch him start him v Arsenal tonight because he thinks he is smarter than everyone else.

6 hours ago, The Boehly Babes said:

Some weird energy on this forum around certain players.

Neither Garnacho, Neto or Gittens are good enough to play for actual Chels. They’re probably at the right level to be starters for BlueCo CFC LDN though.

It’s the absolute circle jerk people are having over Garnachos (admittedly) horrific performance as though it justifies all their hatred.

He was no worse than Badiashille on Saturday but the Badiashille thread is dead.

Is it cos he’s ex-Utd? Is it cos he’s from the West Falklands? Is it his brother or his face?

Just seems such an unparalleled animosity towards him whilst Neto & Gittens who are equally eye wateringly sh*t and cost more and earn more (‘cos EVERYONE is obsessed with finances nowadays) on the whole get away with it (apart from the Cheesey Ones consistently NNNJ Jackson esque levels of pointing out Netos shortcomings)

We aren’t blessed with the Hazards & Robbens of the world anymore, in fact world football isn’t blessed with players of that ilk anymore. Outside of Estevao there isn’t a winger in the Prem built that way who will take his man on 9 x out of 10.

You make a good point. We saw it before with Jackson, and I would say Fernandez gets it to a degree too. Some players seem to get a whole lot of stick after average to poor performances and others fly under the radar.

I think it's in part the nature of him being a high profile PL name, in the news for the wrong reasons and all that. And it's also down to the "apparent effort" he puts in on the pitch. I say apparent, because sometimes it looks like he's not working hard for the team although I'm sure he is.

It's a reason why I've always loved players like Chalobah, Reece, Gallagher (in recent years). All academy players and you can see how much it means to them when they play.

Neto puts his head down and works hard for the team, or gives the appearance of working hard anyway. That's probably why he escapes significant criticism but it gets heaped on Garnacho.

1 hour ago, GarnachoCheese said:

It’s hilarious that the defensive argument is used against Garnacho, yet Neto is lauded as a great defender when he leaves his man just as much for the overlap. Go watch his highlights against Napoli and it’s 45 minutes of leaving his man, but that thread remains silent. Funny.

Anyway, on to Arsenal tonight. Let’s see if Garnacho can get another 2 goals against them.

Are you purposefully ignoring the bit where I said Garnacho doesnt even try and get back, just constantly lets his full back get doubled up on? Neto isnt great at it either, but at least he gives the full back cover and tracks runners etc.

1 hour ago, dkw said:

He doesnt have to be a great defender, what he needs to do is actually f**king try and not just allow his full back to be doubled and trebled up on constantly.

Agreed. That can be coached though.

Anyway, I'd rather be bringing on Garnacho with 15 minutes to go than; Sterling, Madueke or Gittens.

I just wouldn't start him when sitting behind him are Badiashille and Hato.

44 minutes ago, dkw said:

Are you purposefully ignoring the bit where I said Garnacho doesnt even try and get back, just constantly lets his full back get doubled up on? Neto isnt great at it either, but at least he gives the full back cover and tracks runners etc.

The highlights are on the Neto thread. I’m not ignoring it, it’s just wrong.

Nacho is better than Neto

Neto is better than Nacho

Nacho is better than Neto

Neto is better than Nacho

My daddys got a bigger car than your daddy's car...

Your daddy has a bigger spread sheet of data analytic's on Garnacho than your daddy... My daddy has a bigger data spreadsheet on Neto than your daddy...

FFS...

40 minutes ago, bisright1 said:

Agreed. That can be coached though.

Anyway, I'd rather be bringing on Garnacho with 15 minutes to go than; Sterling, Madueke or Gittens.

I just wouldn't start him when sitting behind him are Badiashille and Hato.

I dont think it can be coached every time, hes been coached by several people now and either chooses not to track back or well, I dont know or...he just never even bothers.

Be nice if we were arguing who was the best and not who is the worst.

Says it all really.

5 hours ago, dermott said:

Garnacho crucified Hato by not once tracking Wan-Bissaka back. W-B was their MOTM in the first half in both defence and attack.

Well said Dermott. Your post is bang on.

Garnacho, stopped trying, gave up, surrendered. Did everything bar wave a White flag.

And as sh*t and weak as they maybe, I haven't seen that "I don't care" attitude from Neto, Gittens, Badashilie or any other of our current players. Garnacho was a defensive coward against West Ham, and that IMO is unforgiveable.