Film is so subjective, I love Let the Right One In for example, you should hear what the dear daughter says about it, sheesh.

Breaking the Waves is another one of my favourites, you should hear what the duchess and daughter say to me about that!

Each to their own I guess.

CFC-F.....well...an answer.. of sorts. There is no need to apologise... just try to avoid the ad hominems in future. It's ok to have differences of opinion - in fact it's necessary really - for the good of this site among other things. And look...thanks for trying to particularize why you feel those films are classics...good & evil etc etc. Thanks for having a go - I know you've struggled with it...and I know that you know that I know that you've come up way short...but hey, that's ok; Movie Franchise.....all down to the buck eh? I have to say that the last sentence of your post was magnificent though so well done for that.

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Film is so subjective, I love Let the Right One In for example, you should hear what the dear daughter says about it, sheesh.

Breaking the Waves is another one of my favourites, you should hear what the duchess and daughter say to me about that!

Each to their own I guess.

 

Breaking the Waves: Magnificent film - a film I still watch w/o fail every year.

CFC-F.....well...an answer.. of sorts. There is no need to apologise... just try to avoid the ad hominems in future. It's ok to have differences of opinion - in fact it's necessary really - for the good of this site among other things. And look...thanks for trying to particularize why you feel those films are classics...good & evil etc etc. Thanks for having a go - I know you've struggled with it...and I know that you know that I know that you've come up way short...but hey, that's ok; Movie Franchise.....all down to the buck eh? I have to say that the last sentence of your post was magnificent though so well done for that.

Fair enough, youlots. Sorry that I failed to elaborate on why I like Star Wars (I suppose, nostalgia plays a large part).

 

Before I go I'd just like to ask you. What do you make of The Lord of The Rings film trilogy? Those are my absolute favourite films of all time (The Hobbit trilogy, however, was a letdown I thought). What about the books? It's one out of only two times when I've seen the film first then read the book second (the other time was with Cloud Atlas). 

I'll get back to you on LOTR et al - I have an important skins match for high stakes on WGT so I have to go. Cheers.

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oh hitchens...what is to be done with you?!? I've asked you to tell us why you think that they are "classics". You continue to avoid answering that question. I'm not interested in anyone else's opinion - only yours! So please particularize & answer the question! You already disparaged Guinness' views - matter for you. But do you have a considered opinion not reliant on others? And again, I did not bring up Star Wars - another poster did - try to follow the provenance of the thread posts. Not too much to ask it is?

It was meant as a tongue in cheek comment, as i could tell from your previous comments youlots, that a man of your breeding and provenance, would not appreciate such cinematic pornography such  as star wars, but at the end of the day, most people want escape from the hum drum of everyday life, they want entertainment.

They don't want to go to the cinema and start dissecting sub-plots and and find the hidden meaning on why a vase of flowers is on the table.

you are probably one  the few people in the world capable of knowing what  mulholland drive was about, i went to see that with a woman i was seeing at the time who had a first in applied mathematics from york, and her words to me when we came out of the cinema was 'what the f**k was that about!'

hi-brow arthouse schictk is all well and good when you have been educated in media and film studies. But at the end of the day, when it comes down to it with film studio's it's about does it make money and does it entertain people? and that's it!

It was meant as a tongue in cheek comment, as i could tell from your previous comments youlots, that a man of your breeding and provenance, would not appreciate such cinematic pornography such  as star wars, but at the end of the day, most people want escape from the hum drum of everyday life, they want entertainment.

They don't want to go to the cinema and start dissecting sub-plots and and find the hidden meaning on why a vase of flowers is on the table.

you are probably one  the few people in the world capable of knowing what  mulholland drive was about, i went to see that with a woman i was seeing at the time who had a first in applied mathematics from york, and her words to me when we came out of the cinema was 'what the f**k was that about!'

hi-brow arthouse schictk is all well and good when you have been educated in media and film studies. But at the end of the day, when it comes down to it with film studio's it's about does it make money and does it entertain people? and that's it!

I'm in the middle there, croydonblue. I like my escapism films, sure, but I also enjoy films that make me think. I happen to like Mulholland Drive, and you're right, it is confusing (I could try and explain it to you but it would take too long), as well as other intellectually stimulating films. I appreciate 2001 and I absolutely adore Cloud Atlas (my girlfriend's reaction to Cloud Atlas was similar to the one yours had with Mulholland Drive)... However, sometimes I just like to switch my brain off, sit down and enjoy a good movie. That's why I'll forever love Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, James Bond films, and various other movies of that nature.

Then I'm all over the place ;) Love foreign and art films, but also enjoy Muriel's Wedding (probably not a good example as I rate Aus and NZ film industry); easier to say what I don't like.

I'm in the middle there, croydonblue. I like my escapism films, sure, but I also enjoy films that make me think. I happen to like Mulholland Drive, and you're right, it is confusing (I could try and explain it to you but it would take too long), as well as other intellectually stimulating films. I appreciate 2001 and I absolutely adore Cloud Atlas (my girlfriend's reaction to Cloud Atlas was similar to the one yours had with Mulholland Drive)... However, sometimes I just like to switch my brain off, sit down and enjoy a good movie. That's why I'll forever love Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, James Bond films, and various other movies of that nature.

Me too, i like a good foreign film as much as the next man, senior management not's so keen and i loved cloud atlas as well, but like you say it's good to just switch off.

Bruce Lee anyone? I even like Dragon, the Bruce Lee Story.

Bruce Lee anyone? I even like Dragon, the Bruce Lee Story.

Can't beat a bit of brucie

I'll get back to you on LOTR et al - I have an important skins match for high stakes on WGT so I have to go. Cheers.

 

 

What is a skins match?  Is it something uniquely Australian? Or should I have heard of this phenomena?

Watched a very good film called The way, last week emillio estevez directing his father martin sheen, with james nesbitt and yorrick van wageningen. a very life affirming film.

Edge of Tomorrow. 

 

Was pleasantly surprised by this. The "groundhog day" thing has been done before so I was wondering how they were going to make it interesting this time, especially with Tom Cruise doing his best Tom Cruise impression throughout. But I was actually gripped all the way through, Emily Blunt was excellent and the action was well-done.

 

8/10 

Citizenfour 9/10

Boyhood 8/10

The Voices 5/10

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The Butler 7.5/10.

Bit harsh maybe because I thought Forest Whitaker and Oprah were great, really warmed to their characters. Never hurts to have a bit of Jane Fonda thrown in either.

Demolition Man.

 

I enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun.

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'A Hill in Korea' - a very good, character-driven, 1950's war film about a British patrol, cut off and fighting for their lives against the North Koreans. The film has a cast of well-known 50's actors like the great Harry Andrews and also a turn from a (then) young Michael Caine.

The film is of interest to military buffs because of the use of Brens, Sten Mk5's and the No.4 .303.

Recommended to those who appreciate older films.

Edited March 25, 201511 yr by Spudulike

Last Vegas. De Nero, Freeman, Douglas and Kline go to Vegas for their friend's bachelor party. Surprisingly amusing. 7/10

The Internship. Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn work as interns at Google. 6/10. Wedding Crashers is better.

Last Vegas. De Nero, Freeman, Douglas and Kline go to Vegas for their friend's bachelor party. Surprisingly amusing. 7/10

The Internship. Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn work as interns at Google. 6/10. Wedding Crashers is better.

I've seen the internship, it's firmly the worst film I've ever endured.

Just goes to show the world is full of various tastes.

I said I enjoyed it because I was with my kids. 

Hmm? That doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see how your enjoyment was dependent on the kids presence. The reason I used The Wizard of Oz as an example of a movie for kids is because that's the way I see it... I watched it with my niece just a few weeks ago, and it really got on my nerves. I wanted to throttle the ruddy Munchkins, haha. I'm not going to say it isn't a classic because it is. It would be ludicrous for me to suggest otherwise. However, that doesn't mean to say that I personally have to like it. My niece really loved it, she had a ball. Whereas I didn't. And I know I would have hated it even if my niece hadn't been there... So, why would your enjoyment of Star Wars have been effected if you'd seen it alone without the kids?

Hmm? That doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see how your enjoyment was dependent on the kids presence. The reason I used The Wizard of Oz as an example of a movie for kids is because that's the way I see it... I watched it with my niece just a few weeks ago, and it really got on my nerves. I wanted to throttle the ruddy Munchkins, haha. I'm not going to say it isn't a classic because it is. It would be ludicrous for me to suggest otherwise. However, that doesn't mean to say that I personally have to like it. My niece really loved it, she had a ball. Whereas I didn't. And I know I would have hated it even if my niece hadn't been there... So, why would your enjoyment of Star Wars have been effected if you'd seen it alone without the kids?

 

 

I enjoyed seeing my kids enjoying it. I now take my grandchildren to all sorts of films I wouldn't go to myself, and I enjoy being with them when they are having fun.

I enjoyed seeing my kids enjoying it. I now take my grandchildren to all sorts of films I wouldn't go to myself, and I enjoy being with them when they are having fun.

Okay, I can understand that. But, surely that's a case of not actually enjoying the movie itself, you're enjoying seeing them have a good time. That's a different thing altogether. If that was the case then I should adore The Wizard of Oz, because my niece loved it... In fact, I think I'd have enjoyed it marginally more if I'd watched it alone. It made it worse that I had to feign enthusiasm.

^ Hmmmm... the answer to this fascinating conundrum must lie in the fundamental difference in the make-up of the male and female minds.

A wonderful example of how a man and a woman see things very differently. Kind of like how a woman's idea of tackling a problem is having a nice discussion to get it off her chest, whereas the man's idea is to just... Solve it!