Emanelo's Role

[nonotnowjim]

Evening (from Lebanon at least) all,

I amiInterested to gauge your thoughts on the role that Michael Emanelo has played in our recent transfer activity.

I think it's fair to say that the majority of posters on this forum were vitriolic over his appointment as DOF, and the role he plays in the club, despite having a relative inexperience in the game.

I recall a fair amount of fairly negative comments during his spell as assistant first team coach and the subsequent move "upstairs"

I was wondering if this general feeling has changed given our transfer dealing, and the role (if any) that he has played in the signings of young talent such as Courtois, KDB, Hazard and Marin.

[Snedger]

He's certainly kept out the limelight since then. I am convinced that he is the single most important person in our transfer activity. The way I see it is that he and some other scouts working under him identify targets at all levels. Emanelo than makes the decision on which ones he recommends the that club persue. I assume from there he consults Roman (who in turn may canvas opinion from some of his inner circle - Hidink? Campbell?) and on his approval Gourlay and or Buck get to work while keeping Roman up to speed on developments. But for me the centre of all this is more than likely Emanelo.

And yes, to be fair to the guy, if what I've described is anything close to the truth, he can't be criticsed too much at the moment. We're certainly looking a lot better at identifying young senior players (although Hazard was a no brainer).

Notice that I believe that the manager/coach has no involvement whatsoever. I mean, how can they when most of our purchases are made while no coach is even appointed?

[Uno]

I don't think a man who knows only how to coach under 12's girls football should be making big decisions like sacking AVB at our club.

[dkw]

I don't think a man who knows only how to coach under 12's girls football should be making big decisions like sacking AVB at our club.

What?

[Gem]

I don't think a man who knows only how to coach under 12's girls football should be making big decisions like sacking AVB at our club.

Agreed, it worked out horribly in the end.

[Scott]

I would like to see our manager pick the players we sign, ones that he feels fit into his system of play.

[Uno]

Who's to say AVB couldn't have won those things. We just will never know

European Champions 2012!!!

[youlots]

Who's to say AVB couldn't have won those things. We just will never know

AVB couldn't have won those things.

What's more: AVB didn't win those things and can no longer win the things we won as we won them without him.

I know this.

[Davey Baby]

Who's to say AVB couldn't have won those things.

Me.

[Guest]

He's certainly kept out the limelight since then. I am convinced that he is the single most important person in our transfer activity. The way I see it is that he and some other scouts working under him identify targets at all levels. Emanelo than makes the decision on which ones he recommends the that club persue. I assume from there he consults Roman (who in turn may canvas opinion from some of his inner circle - Hidink? Campbell?) and on his approval Gourlay and or Buck get to work while keeping Roman up to speed on developments. But for me the centre of all this is more than likely Emanelo.

And yes, to be fair to the guy, if what I've described is anything close to the truth, he can't be criticsed too much at the moment. We're certainly looking a lot better at identifying young senior players (although Hazard was a no brainer).

Notice that I believe that the manager/coach has no involvement whatsoever. I mean, how can they when most of our purchases are made while no coach is even appointed?

My understanding is that a previous manager complained that senior players had the direct ear of ambramovich and Emalano was basically appointed to act as a conduit between the owner/board and the match staff (players and coaches).

That would indicate the signings being made are by ambramovich and the board (after reports/consultation with scouts and non-playing staff) not Emalano himself.

[bluedrake55]

elmo and his ilk are lazy leeches living in roman's colon! they just go for the most obvious talents that anybody with half a brain can make! it would be more beneficial if they made more recruitments in england and actually put in the effort to ensure the talents have a better chance at been first team regulars. i fear that these idiots have not learned from past mistakes. areneson had the right idea when he signed wood and tom taiwo but what does he actually know about english football and come to think of it other countries?! oxlade-chamberlain would of been a nice recruit. is it a wonder why certain past managers never saw eye to eye with him! shame they let brendon rodgers go, in fact shame they let jose's backroom team go!

[evissy]

Michael Emenalo - Technical director

Michael Emenalo previously worked in both the scouting and coaching departments before being promoted to his current role in July 2011.

He has been an important part of the first team management structure since his arrival in October 2007, and now supports the work of the first team manager, leading the club's international and domestic scouting network, and assists in driving the technical programmes of our Academy and international youth network.

He has a hand in the transfers as he leads the whole scouting network. His reports are read and opinions heard by the manager and the board on interesting players.

But still we don't have the slightest idea how much input he has in the end. Looking at the transfer-dealings of late he seems to do good work.

[Katon]

elmo and his ilk are lazy leeches living in roman's colon! they just go for the most obvious talents that anybody with half a brain can make!

Wait, what? Just looking at our Belgian mob, Courtois and De Bruyne were both signed without much competition based on their performances for Genk and then stepped it up a level (Courtois keeping his Belgian standards in La Liga, De Bruyne going crazy on Belgium after moving to CM) almost as soon as the deal was done. We got both of them for much less than we'd pay today, precisely because Emanelo was in on them earlier than any other major club.

His big-ticket signings have mostly been obvious talents because that's the type of player that goes for big money - except when Liverpool are buying English, in which case obvious talent is unnecessary - but his less expensive signings haven't all been as obvious, and most of them have enhanced their reputations since joining the club (Feruz, Courtois, De Bruyne, Piazon, Bamford).

Judging someone's scouting ability based on one year's worth of evidence is a pretty dubious idea, but so far Emenalo seems to have done well enough to justify his employment.

[Zeta]

TO be fair, no-one outside the inner circle of roman/management/scouts actually knows what people like him do... he may be a massive part of us signing these good youngsters, or he may be doing f**k all. It's easy to sit here and speculate, but we don't know really.

[dkw]

elmo and his ilk are lazy leeches living in roman's colon! they just go for the most obvious talents that anybody with half a brain can make! it would be more beneficial if they made more recruitments in england and actually put in the effort to ensure the talents have a better chance at been first team regulars. i fear that these idiots have not learned from past mistakes. areneson had the right idea when he signed wood and tom taiwo but what does he actually know about english football and come to think of it other countries?! oxlade-chamberlain would of been a nice recruit. is it a wonder why certain past managers never saw eye to eye with him! shame they let brendon rodgers go, in fact shame they let jose's backroom team go!

Its always great to see people who know all the inner workings of the club giving their opinion, I presume you know everything that goes on at the club.

[nonotnowjim]

Having asked the initial question, it seems there are still some extreme negative views by some.

We do not know the inner workings of the club, however i tip my hat to his judgement on many cases (signing the young belgiums etc). Some people are very quick to credit RDM for his efforts since coming in as manager, but do not seem to be so keen to extend that goodwill to others. In my view, if the interim first team coach gets credit for our cup victories last season, then the director of football should also be afforded some credit for his judgement and efforts.

[shedpensioner]

I'm not a big fan of this kind of setup, I think transfers should be organised by the manager!

[Guest RFC_CFC]

The manager should have the say in players who come in, afterall is it not them who are in charge of picking formations, players and changing games with subs ect?

[abramovich]

There's a woman in Roman's close circle named Marina Granovskaya, who's a major player and has handled a few of our recent major deals, including the Torres transfer.

Emenalo probably oversees scouting and recommends the targets, but it's Roman and the board who make the call and powerful business figures like Granovskaya whose task is to broker those complex transactions.

[shedpensioner]

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Emenalo probably oversees scouting and recommends the targets,

For me thats the job of the cheif scout, why do we need to pay someone a fortune to do that?

[Englishman]

The trouble is it's difficult to know who is responsible for what at the club these days. Take the Torres deal. Did Roman wake up one day and say 'let's sign Torres'? Was it Emenalo's call? A collective decision? If so, among whom? Did Ancelotti have any input? Who knows.

Another of Roman's 'advisers' is Piet De Visser, who said several years ago that Roman had told him to "look out for top-class young players who will be the Chelsea stars in three years’ time". How much influence does he have? What is apparent is it's not always the manager who signs players; AVB stated that DeBruyne was a "club signing", not his, and I'm not sure Cahill was his choice either.

[DoubleHelix74]

I don't think a man who knows only how to coach under 12's girls football should be making big decisions like sacking AVB at our club.

Yes, terrible decision! What on Earth was he thinking... It is that decision that has set this club back for at least a decade now... Appalling!

[DoubleHelix74]

I'm not a big fan of this kind of setup, I think transfers should be organised by the manager!

Shed, new tattoo? Is that a Japanese Oni?

Edited June 13, 2012 by DoubleHelix74

[alan'82]

Evening (from Lebanon at least) all,

I amiInterested to gauge your thoughts on the role that Michael Emanelo has played in our recent transfer activity.

I think it's fair to say that the majority of posters on this forum were vitriolic over his appointment as DOF, and the role he plays in the club, despite having a relative inexperience in the game.

I recall a fair amount of fairly negative comments during his spell as assistant first team coach and the subsequent move "upstairs"

I was wondering if this general feeling has changed given our transfer dealing, and the role (if any) that he has played in the signings of young talent such as Courtois, KDB, Hazard and Marin.

Good evening to you mate,(from Essex & a touch more dodgy).

Every time I hear the word Lebanon,for some reason, my mind wanders back to memories of Terry Whaite & that song by The Human League/Phil Oakey!.

(Maybe it is because I fancied the Blonde backing singer at the time, (pretty sure it wasn't Terry), but anyhow, I thought I'd share that bit of pointless drivel with you).

I don't really know what Emanelo's role with the club is to be honest,I doubt it's got much to do with spotting future young stars because, he has no history or record of doing such a task at any other major club.

Besides,in this modern age,there are so many agents trying to place young players with top clubs (& earn themselves large 'fees' in the process), there can't be many 'hidden' gems left in the world which clubs/managers are unaware of.

Maybe he's just a nice fellow to have a chat with.

[Nibs]

I don't really know what Emanelo's role with the club is to be honest,

That goes for you, me and just about everyone I should think.

f**k knows WHAT he actually does and as long as he stays well away from anything major and important then everyone can just forget all about him.

If he was to leave tomorrow he would be forgotten within a matter of days.

Edited June 13, 2012 by Nibs