Well the reason Battersea was an option because the Bridge couldn't be re-developed. Funny how things change isn't it?

 

 

 

Mentioned it above but the reason we were considering Battersea was because the Bridge wasn't a feasible option. Now it is apparently. Don't forget in 2011 the club tried some pretty underhanded tactics to get control of the Freehold.

 

In that time what's happened? Trophies yes but what legacy has Roman built? What identity is left? That is a huge issue for a lot of supporters, especially those who established the CPO to save the club. 

 

It's hard to trust someone who does all he can not to engage with the fanbase and doesn't seem to understand them in any real way.

Thing is this entire thread will be pointless, there will be no new stadium, if CPO now decide they dont actually want to sell the shares under any condition

Because that in reality will be the case if they turn him down this time, no way on earth is Roman going to spend upwards of £600m on a new stadium if he wont actually own that stadium afterwards

Thing is this entire thread will be pointless, there will be no new stadium, if CPO now decide they dont actually want to sell the shares under any condition

Because that in reality will be the case if they turn him down this time, no way on earth is Roman going to spend upwards of £600m on a new stadium if he wont actually own that stadium afterwards

 

He/club will own the stadium he/club just wont own technically speaking own the patch of mud under it, the cpo is abit complicated in that manner as the club and cpo kind of jointly own the stadium just in unequal bits.

He/club will own the stadium he/club just wont own technically speaking own the patch of mud under it, the cpo is abit complicated in that manner as the club and cpo kind of jointly own the stadium just in unequal bits.

Its a moot point tbf, because the new stadium wont be built if CPO now decide they have a whole new set of objections

The last time around they objected to a relocation, if Roman now solves that issue by spending a vast fortune on a new stadium at Stamford Bridge as they asked, but then new objections are made which again means he dosnt get the freehold, we and he might as well give up

CPO will in effect as someone said above, have become what they were set up to guard against

Its a moot point tbf, because the new stadium wont be built if CPO now decide they have a whole new set of objections

The last time around they objected to a relocation, if Roman now solves that issue by spending a vast fortune on a new stadium at Stamford Bridge as they asked, but then new objections are made which again means he dosnt get the freehold, we and he might as well give up

CPO will in effect as someone said above, have become what they were set up to guard against

 

I think the argument would be that the CPO was set up to protect the club's future and that would still be the overarching aim. You might well believe that the new stadium would be the best way to do this but there are other considerations not least Roman himself.

No one knows what Roman will or wont do regards the new ground & CPO.

 

I'm a CPO holder & as far as i'm concerned we need to keep it going even if the new ground comes off, who's to say Roman wont sell the club in the future, we could end up being owned by the sort of owners who ruined Portsmouth, or look at the state of Leeds now, for all our sakes i think we need the CPO we came to close to being ruined twice before lets not risk it again.

No one knows what Roman will or wont do regards the new ground & CPO.

 

I'm a CPO holder & as far as i'm concerned we need to keep it going even if the new ground comes off, who's to say Roman wont sell the club in the future, we could end up being owned by the sort of owners who ruined Portsmouth, or look at the state of Leeds now, for all our sakes i think we need the CPO we came to close to being ruined twice before lets not risk it again.

The new stadium wont happen if CPO shareholders knock back Roman again, I dont think that would happen though, if planning consent is achieved and a vote is put again to the shareholders one would hope it sails through

The new stadium wont happen if CPO shareholders knock back Roman again, I dont think that would happen though, if planning consent is achieved and a vote is put again to the shareholders one would hope it sails through

 

Surely assurances need to be put in place though? What might help is if Roman actually addresses some of the concerns supporters have for once.

The new stadium wont happen if CPO shareholders knock back Roman again, I dont think that would happen though, if planning consent is achieved and a vote is put again to the shareholders one would hope it sails through

CPO will agree to the new ground being built, if Roman then wants our shares i think we'll be justified to ask why & question his future plans for the club, anything can happen especially in football, imagine us giving away our shares then years down the line a new owner coming in bankrupting us & putting the ground up for sale, how any Chelsea fan can be happy to risk everything that we have now & the security it brings baffles me.

Its a moot point tbf, because the new stadium wont be built if CPO now decide they have a whole new set of objections

The last time around they objected to a relocation, if Roman now solves that issue by spending a vast fortune on a new stadium at Stamford Bridge as they asked, but then new objections are made which again means he dosnt get the freehold, we and he might as well give up

CPO will in effect as someone said above, have become what they were set up to guard against

 

None knows for sure what will happen if he gets knocked back by cpo, although I might add that if he was willing to build new stadium but then backed out because of cpo then I might be a little suspicious as to why, I mean its a seemingly commonly held thought that roman intends on passing down the club to his sons at some point so is committed longterm as far as we are aware, if this is the case having the freehold should be inconsequential really, end of the day a possible reason to want the club lock stock is so that he has a higher bargaining chip if he decided to sell one day? 1b worth of land (if he was to redevelop himself and make all profit himself) is a mighty big bargaining chip in negotiating when selling on in the future and would essentially of put himself in position of owning a top 5/10 club in world football for nothing.

 

Leeds/portsmouth is a very good example of what can happen to a club at the mercy of a rich owner I bet their fans wished they had a cpo of their own in place, we just happen to of got one of the better rich owners going mind (if getting some dodgy advice on occasions) but that may not always be the case.

 

It could only take roman getting on wrong side of putin and having his position made hard before being forced into selling and then an american speculator coming in who has the great idea to sell the ground and build us a budget one out in guildford so he can redevelop stamford bridge into god knows how many apartments, its a remote possibility but one non the less, thats what the cpo has to work on, the worst case scenario.

None knows for sure what will happen if he gets knocked back by cpo, although I might add that if he was willing to build new stadium but then backed out because of cpo then I might be a little suspicious as to why, I mean its a seemingly commonly held thought that roman intends on passing down the club to his sons at some point so is committed longterm as far as we are aware, if this is the case having the freehold should be inconsequential really, end of the day a possible reason to want the club lock stock is so that he has a higher bargaining chip if he decided to sell one day? 1b worth of land (if he was to redevelop himself and make all profit himself) is a mighty big bargaining chip in negotiating when selling on in the future and would essentially of put himself in position of owning a top 5/10 club in world football for nothing.

 

Leeds/portsmouth is a very good example of what can happen to a club at the mercy of a rich owner I bet their fans wished they had a cpo of their own in place, we just happen to of got one of the better rich owners going mind (if getting some dodgy advice on occasions) but that may not always be the case.

 

It could only take roman getting on wrong side of putin and having his position made hard before being forced into selling and then an american speculator coming in who has the great idea to sell the ground and build us a budget one out in guildford so he can redevelop stamford bridge into god knows how many apartments, its a remote possibility but one non the less, thats what the cpo has to work on, the worst case scenario.

Us fans are unique in the fact we can actually protect our ground, lets not throw that away.

 

We've also been very lucky having Roman at the helm compared to some other clubs with foreign owners, the list is endless, Portsmouth/Leeds/Leicester/Sheff Weds/Forest/Fulham/Blackburn/Cardiff/Charlton to name a few, Roman wont be around forever who knows who might buy us in the future & where we'll end up on & off the pitch.

Us fans are unique in the fact we can actually protect our ground, lets not throw that away.

 

We've also been very lucky having Roman at the helm compared to some other clubs with foreign owners, the list is endless, Portsmouth/Leeds/Leicester/Sheff Weds/Forest/Fulham/Blackburn/Cardiff/Charlton to name a few, Roman wont be around forever who knows who might buy us in the future & where we'll end up on & off the pitch.

 

Absolutely agree and investing a large amount of money into the club doesn't automatically grant Roman the right to have the CPO acquiesce to his every whim.

Kind of in the middle on this one, I'd never knock the CPO, I paid the 1st insalment then forgot all about it, as I remember all too well why it exists and perhaps Ken Bates (and I'm not a great fan incidentally) real and lasting legacy to the club. 

 

On the other hand, how can we possibly not trust Roman now? I'm guessing most of us on here have seen and heard the wait till he gets bored mob, and now 13 years down the line he still looks pretty interested to me, the succession looks safe for the longish term future and a gorgeous new stadium is on it's way. 

 

But when push comes to shove I'm going to have to stand in the Abramovich corner on this one. There have been a few posts looking at the worst case possibilities, and christ knows that us of a certain vintage know just how bad things can get, but it's glass half full for me here. Having said that those who laid out good money on a club whose prospects were as gloomy as ours were at the time deserve to be recognised. Discounted season tickets for life, and allowed to pass them on. Or even one of the corporate boxes with a draw being held to determine who attends, once again an ongoing thing. 

 

Still not easy to take sides though and I prefer to think of it as going with my heart and having faith in the man who has done as much as anybody could to put us on the map.

 

London's first, London's only.

Edited March 28, 201610 yr by MKBlue

Kind of in the middle on this one, I'd never knock the CPO, I paid the 1st insalment then forgot all about it, as I remember all too well why it exists and perhaps Ken Bates (and I'm not a great fan incidentally) real and lasting legacy to the club. 

 

On the other hand, how can we possibly not trust Roman now? I'm guessing most of us on here have seen and heard the wait till he gets bored mob, and now 13 years down the line he still looks pretty interested to me, the succession looks safe for the longish term future and a gorgeous new stadium is on it's way. 

 

But when push comes to shove I'm going to have to stand in the Abramovich corner on this one. There have been a few posts looking at the worst case possibilities, and christ knows that us of a certain vintage know just how bad things can get, but it's glass half full for me here. Having said that those who laid out good money on a club whose prospects were as gloomy as ours were at the time deserve to be recognised. Discounted season tickets for life, and allowed to pass them on. Or even one of the corporate boxes with a draw being held to determine who attends, once again an ongoing thing. 

 

Still not easy to take sides though and I prefer to think of it as going with my heart and having faith in the man who has done as much as anybody could to put us on the map.

 

London's first, London's only.

 

Where does the club stand right now though? Who on that board do you actually trust besides the Russian oligarch who has addressed us as fans maybe a couple of times and never in person? Let's not forget this is the same board who put the case that a 55,000 seater stadium on the current plot wasn't possible (either economically or otherwise) which is why we should go to Battersea.

 

I really want to trust Roman and I do enjoy the fact that he embraces owning a club in many ways, but I really don't like some of the decisions being made right now and I think a lot of the distinctively Chelsea things about this club are being lost both on the field and off it.

 

I simply don't think they have a good idea of what is important to us fans and there's no accountability there. Either that or they just don't care.

Kind of in the middle on this one, I'd never knock the CPO, I paid the 1st insalment then forgot all about it, as I remember all too well why it exists and perhaps Ken Bates (and I'm not a great fan incidentally) real and lasting legacy to the club. 

 

On the other hand, how can we possibly not trust Roman now? I'm guessing most of us on here have seen and heard the wait till he gets bored mob, and now 13 years down the line he still looks pretty interested to me, the succession looks safe for the longish term future and a gorgeous new stadium is on it's way. 

 

But when push comes to shove I'm going to have to stand in the Abramovich corner on this one. There have been a few posts looking at the worst case possibilities, and christ knows that us of a certain vintage know just how bad things can get, but it's glass half full for me here. Having said that those who laid out good money on a club whose prospects were as gloomy as ours were at the time deserve to be recognised. Discounted season tickets for life, and allowed to pass them on. Or even one of the corporate boxes with a draw being held to determine who attends, once again an ongoing thing. 

 

Still not easy to take sides though and I prefer to think of it as going with my heart and having faith in the man who has done as much as anybody could to put us on the map.

 

London's first, London's only.

I prefer the knowledge that any prospective owner, is in charge  of the club for the glory of owning one of the countries elite as opposed to the land that it sits on.

I would like to think that Roman trusts me to protect the interests of CFC and its future, we have been protecting it since the early 1980s and previously nearly lost our home to speculators-

I would like to think that Roman trusts me to protect the interests of CFC and its future, we have been protecting it since the early 1980s and previously nearly lost our home to speculators-

 

Beautifully put.

Anyone know what's the latest on the new stadium? Planning application, objections, etc. just hoping I'm around long enough to see it happen.

Old git I am apparently.

Edited March 31, 201610 yr by Kev56

Again, rehashing old arguments is pointless but I thought it showed a tremendous lack of faith in a man who had done so much for this club and I say that as a CPO shareholder with family who also have them. When you look at where we were under Bates, it's arguable that Roman saved us from going down the same route as Leeds yet people didn't trust him.

Yes the board went about it the wrong way but how much long-term damage has been done to this club? Hopefully not much because there may be a way to stay at the current site but who will pay for that? Oh right, Roman.

It's hard to understate what the CPO did to save this club in the dark days, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't acknowledge they might not be perfect and may not be subject to the same things any organisation develops over time - personal agendas and infighting.

Wrong thread

Edited April 9, 201610 yr by Droogba

Anyone know what's the latest on the new stadium? Planning application, objections, etc. just hoping I'm around long enough to see it happen.

Old git I am apparently.

 

 

I can 't see it on the Planning Committee's Agenda yet (but they've only published an Agenda for their April meeting so far). Hopefully next month or two we'll see the Stadium Application meeting where the Planning Officers will give their recommendation to approve or not. People can keep an eye out for it on the H&F Committee Calendar here (check ; Planning and Development Control > Agenda)

 

http://democracy.lbhf.gov.uk/mgCalendarMonthView.aspx?M=5&CID=0&OT=&C=-1&MR=0&DL=0&D=1&ACT=Earlier&DD=2016

 

 

Indicative construction Phases (depending on permission being granted and all other issues resolved).

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone wants to add their support for the new Stadium before it goes to the Planning Committee you can fill in a short comment here particularly if you live in Hammersmith & Fulham. It's usually only the objectors who bother to write in, so any support could help with the application.

 

http://public-access.lbhf.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=NVL8QGBI0IE00

Edited April 10, 201610 yr by fitz

Any news, are we going to Wembley, all very quiet.

Can't see club making an announcement until planning is almost approved. Hope that is soon

Should make the Wembley seats blue.

Spurs will be there too I wonder how it will work

http://www.espnfc.us/tottenham-hotspur/story/2853229/tottenham-close-to-deal-to-play-at-wembley-source