I've never seen Mikel play a forward pass..

Ramires shows intent and he can definitely get on the end of passes that others wouldn't.  Glad he is sticking around

I've never seen Mikel play a forward pass..

Ramires shows intent and he can definitely get on the end of passes that others wouldn't. Glad he is sticking around

Not even his sublime backheel assist to Diego last season?

Edited October 30, 201510 yr by Chelsbear

I've never seen Mikel play a forward pass..

Ramires shows intent and he can definitely get on the end of passes that others wouldn't.  Glad he is sticking around

 

How have you not seen this?

 

Mikel was one of the players I thought was more intent on passing forward and finding a runner against Stoke this week. 

Wow definitely did not remember that! What a goal and what a game!

i've actually seen him play a few forward for Nigeria as he always gets a game and is often the main man.  I actually share a bit of a joke with my brother, if we have Mikel out there passing sideways and backwards why don't I get a game and do the same thing?

Edited October 30, 201510 yr by Van Butsen

Play him in the number 10 this week! 

To be fair, a back heel is still a backwards pass, he was just facing in the wrong direction.

Id rather have a player that can actually pass a ball. We dont need anymore olayers that run around aimlessly at full speed, we need actual footballers that can pass and shot with something resembling concistency

Strange his stats show that Ramires  passing is well above average so he can pass and with consistency, I would admit his shooting is on par with the majority of prem midfield players but not above.

who and how many other midfielders with the same game time have better pass % and goals to min ratios. I know we all have different opinions but who are the players we think would be better alternatives to ramires and mikel and would they work we seem to have a great knack over the years of buying players that can't adapt or that mangers don't feel they can trust with time on the pitch. 

Edited October 30, 201510 yr by buzz

Ramires passes with consistency?. He has his strengths but passing isn't one of them

Strange his stats show that Ramires passing is well above average so he can pass and with consistency, I would admit his shooting is on par with the majority of prem midfield players but not above.

who and how many other midfielders with the same game time have better pass % and goals to min ratios. I know we all have different opinions but who are the players we think would be better alternatives to ramires and mikel and would they work we seem to have a great knack over the years of buying players that can't adapt or that mangers don't feel they can trust with time on the pitch.

How are they well above average? Or is that just something you are saying? How many central midfielders hava a passing accuracy of sub 80? Yeah we all see and value different things, but you cannot possibly watch him play and think "oh that Ramires is a good consistent passer".

Wow definitely did not remember that! What a goal and what a game!

i've actually seen him play a few forward for Nigeria as he always gets a game and is often the main man.  I actually share a bit of a joke with my brother, if we have Mikel out there passing sideways and backwards why don't I get a game and do the same thing?

Why say

I've never seen Mikel play a forward pass

 when you knew it was a lie.

At least he's not taking long shots into the stands at every opportunity like he used to

How are they well above average? Or is that just something you are saying? How many central midfielders hava a passing accuracy of sub 80? Yeah we all see and value different things, but you cannot possibly watch him play and think "oh that Ramires is a good consistent passer".

if your asking how many other midfielders have a passing rate sub 80 very few so what makes there lack of consistency better than Ramires   who has a very similar percentage rate, because then is it a case of you  don't like the player and you want a player who is as inconsistent as Ramires but you like for their other attributes and as I asked who are these better players to fill his boots. Though I have to admit there is a case to bring the youth players through  to fill the roles of some of less regular starters rather than look for new players.   

if your asking how many other midfielders have a passing rate sub 80 very few so what makes there lack of consistency better than Ramires who has a very similar percentage rate, because then is it a case of you don't like the player and you want a player who is as inconsistent as Ramires but you like for their other attributes and as I asked who are these better players to fill his boots. Though I have to admit there is a case to bring the youth players through to fill the roles of some of less regular starters rather than look for new players.

Ive read this 3 times and I gotta be honest, I have no idea what youre saying.

simple who do you think is  a better option with a better pass rate than Ramires which is a fact rather than opinion and will sign for us. once more and you might of got it

simple who do you think is a better option with a better pass rate than Ramires which is a fact rather than opinion and will sign for us. once more and you might of got it

So you want me to make a list over players, better then Ramires, with better passing completition, who will sign for us? I can make a long list of players that are better then Ramires, I can make an even longer one with players that are better passers then Ramires. If any of them will sign for us is not really something anyone would know. What we do know for a fact is that Ramires has an abysmal completion percantage for a central midfielder, among the worst in the prem. What he does well is all tied up to his athletecism. And lately we seem to have trouble stringing a few passes together and Ramires is certainly among the worst offenders

Name the players and well check the stats

Name the players and well check the stats

If you tell me what site has Ramires passing stats as "well above average" I'll gladly check them

Stats are very misleading. Watching Ramires, you can see how often he messes up basic passing. He's an incredibly frustrating player. He can come up with something brilliant and then he will mess up some of the most basic parts of the game.

Name the players and well check the stats

better passing midfielders than ramires? This challenge sounds so easy it must be a trick...

I'll fall for it. Havent checked stats, this is just from witnessing things with my own eyes. Also not saying we should/could sign all of these:

Kroos, Bender (Dortmund), Busquets, Schneiderlin, Verratti, Motta, Delph, Coutinho, Milner, Fernandinho, Eriksen, Barry, McCarthy, Ramsey, Rakitic, Cabaye, Marchisio, Pirlo

I mean, thats just off the top of my head. There are probably lots more quality players in europe and south america that i dont know about...

I actually like Ramires as well, but an accurate passer he is not. Not when he tries to make meaningful passes anyway. im sure his 5 yard passes are great

Ramires is the definition of hit and miss.

coxy15 respect for putting names forward however all are top first team players how many would be happy to be restricted to 23-30 games all competitions squad player like Ramires apart from maybe  Barry who I have to admit has a higher pass % and is a player  who gives 100% could of been a good buy when he left sh*tty .

 as for the meaningful passes that's what brings all the players % down and Ramires has never had I would agree had that in his locker but I can't think of any manager that has or would ask that of him.

 

Its team game and at city last season Mouriniho said Ramires wouldn't of scored the goal Schurrle scored but he would never of let Lampard go free for their equalizer. I think hes worth a contract extension for what on  he does do but pass consistency is no worse than the majority of other elp midfielders but u coxy hit a nail on the head with type of pass however that is a lot harder to judge and is that really enough for others to condemn all his efforts past present and future.

 

Today at the game where there were poor displays by many I listened to fans in front sides and behind who all reckoned that they have never rated any of our players behind me Oscar to the left side Hazard/Terry(never had pace maka made him look good) to the right William and some Zouma(now were seeing the real player) despite he was playing out of position in front Costa, Cahill, Ramires , Mikel  sorry for the rant but as I said earlier in the thread where is there a team with a top top player in every position that has stats in the 90% + every season.    

Ramires can basically be summed up by one passage of play - wins the ball, does a nice turn away from a player, then blasts the pass out of play nowhere near reaching any of his teammates.

For all his 'good' qualities, he has you breathing in relief every time he manages to find a Blue shirt. That kind of player should not be in a Chelsea starting lineup.

I think he has been one of our better players recently. His brilliance is revealed when you allow him to run in a 433. Some of his late runs in the box clearly show Franks influence.

He is wasted playing in a pivot as it puts more pressure on his passing. I've been saying for a while that a 433 is the required switch. Ramires would be one player to benefit big time from that switch.